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New Battlefield 3 patch problems begin with ‘useless’ IRNV scope

Earlier on we informed you that DICE had sent out a huge 756MB patch update for the PlayStation 3 version of Battlefield 3. Prior to the patch, a lot of people were complaining about how the IRNV scope was ‘overpowered’ and although it isn’t included in the official patch notes, it looks like the IRNV has well and truly been nerfed by DICE.

To say a lot of you are unhappy with the changes is an understatement. We’re seeing a lot of feedback from you guys saying that the patch has ruined the game, not only because of the IRNV changes, but also many other aspects of gameplay too.

The popular SCAR-H weapon has also been tweaked to be less effective as well, but for now we’re going to concentrate on what changes DICE has made to the IRNV scope. If you play a game now after installing the patch update, you’ll find that the IRNV is a lot more difficult to use, somewhat inconsistent even as you’ll see that the scope no longer spots all enemies, either in broad daylight or on night maps.

We’ve seen in game that in some cases, the IRNV will work as normal and you’ll be able to spot enemies, but other times you’ll be aiming down the sights with your scope with the enemy right in front of you and he or she doesn’t show up. Here are some of the hundreds of complaints that are coming in on Twitter:

”@Battlefield nerfing the IRNV scope just ruined the game for me. This PS3 patch really is pathetic. #BF3EpicFail”

”@zh1nt0 i’m addicted to the IRNV scope too. shame it had to be nerfed but, all good things come to an end! #stillgotskills”

”@Battlefield wow the update destroyed the IRNV scope, I can’t see anything, all I can c is extremely close range”

”The IRNV scope nerf is hilarious. Can’t see anything. xD”

To show you the problem at close hand, we’ve even got a short video clip to show you which gives you a solid look at the changes to the IRNV scope following on from the patch update. The gameplay is on Operation Metro and you can clearly see that you can no longer spot players with the scope now giving players a ‘foggy’ sight, as opposed to the heat radiation prior to the patch.

If you have installed the recent patch update for Battlefield 3, let us know your thoughts on the changes. Are you happy that the IRNV scope has been nerfed like this or not?

Written by Alan Ng

Alan has been working for Product-Reviews since 2009 and became the Editor-in-chief in 2014. He has a passion for technology, the latest mobile phones and gadgets, and the gaming industry. Alan is a graduate of Canterbury Christ Church University and completed a B.A in Commercial Music in 2008. While expressing a keen interest in all areas that PR cover, you'll usually find Alan in the gaming section, where he'll be keeping enthusiasts up to date on all the latest news and reviews for consoles and PC.

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Guest

look tony People are just giving there opinions, you don’t have to go and insult them in any way mate. people like you are just pissed because of getting waxed by better players using the IRNV scope,enough said…..

Mike Smith
Mike Smith

I liked the IRNV scope in Night Shift and thought I would give it a go in MP mode. WTF? 1x Optics that actually zoom out as compared with iron sights! Could of at least been a 2x or 3.4x scope. “But looking at it with perspective, I’m getting sick of this whole reoccurin process of nerfing the crap out of this game. guns is getting so damn old in my opinion. All because of thoes damn 10 year old that go onto the forums on Battlelog and throw a tantrum over how the ____ is so overpowered and, and… Read more »

telecleez
telecleez

gotta say the IRNV is totally useless to use u cant even see 3ft infront of u with the dang thing 

Carsus89
Carsus89

They should find a comprehensible balance that everybody can understand, i.e. too much light: image doesn’t show that good, low light environment: should work fine like previously, since now you never know when to use it. Te video is a good example in the metro there is not a strong light source and it should work better.

Andrave
Andrave

All the shots in that youtube video show the user attempting to fire the scope over a light source (the tactical flashlight, the fire, etc).  If you use night vision equipment in real life, it will get blurry like this if you aim it at a light source.  Its realistic.  The video doesn’t prove anything.  I’m glad to see ea making changes to keep the game more fair.  If you buy the game and get online and get killed 20 times with no kills your first few games because of vets playing with OP unlocks, then you will quit, return… Read more »

Psychoticspell
Psychoticspell

I will not play bf3 until they fix this scope. I built up my gameplay based on hk416+irnv and now my gameplay is ruined.. thanks DICE!!

tom
tom

it was only scope I liked playing, now i playing cod until they bring it back!

Gotts
Gotts

This Scope is absolutely useless now. Everyone can use it so in my opinion its not OP. This is the only scope I enjoyed playing with. This game is done for me. I quit playing a few days after this stupid patch came out. Every company sometimes managed to come out with a fun game. Then some people gotta cry for weeks until the company makes some stupid change like this and ruins the game for a lot of other people. I’m done with EA.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The IRNV scope was WAY OP. Too many of you “complainers” were just camping out with the thing in buildings.

I do agree that they perhaps went TOO far, but why not venture away from the scope. Try some other guns/scopes.

You liked it because it was OP. Thats the honest truth. Get over it.

EDIT:

I’d like to add.

DICE has already has a “spot” mechanic in the game. Why not try and use it once in a while, then you won’t need an IRNV scope to get your kills. You get points for doing it too…

tim
tim

trading bf3 in for mw3, they ruined what was at once my favorite game…. 

M1A1TankerLT
M1A1TankerLT

Yep, the IR scope is worthless.  Can’t use it even in the dark in a tunnel.  Brutal.

Willyloomis
Willyloomis

The patch ruined the game imo. I will no longer be playing this game. Looks like I will be picking up MW3 after all

Justin Law

IRNV was fine the way it was, it was an prize to those who use like a specific gun, there was no point in actually toning down the IRNV actually, thats the purpose of the scope….to identify targets, all this has done is given people who love to camp an excuse. It wasn’t over powered, infact many people didn’t even care about it, only people who bitched were the newf@gs who’re new and don’t know how to use it. Battlefield 3 > COD why? battlefield 3 has requires skill, people using the IRNV can spot these newf@gs running across the… Read more »

Gav
Gav

 CHEATING!!! irnv is used for sole purpose of identifying targets whether to spot or kill the enemy,TAKE IT YOUR A SNIPER USER AND HAPPY NOW??as you cant be spotted as easily.If any real armed forces were to be using the new irnv patch im sure we would have plenty of our troops sent back in body bags!!! AS THIS IS NOTHING BUT A HINDERENCE AND NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING A TASK THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR!!!!They use this equip in body locations after earthquakes and other sad acts of god whether day or night the equip is still of… Read more »

Jjr903
Jjr903

i hate the way the new patch has my inrv lookin i understand toning it down a bit but now all i c is green! if i wanted a crappy scope id go play mw3!

ksthered
ksthered

The best solution would be limit the range of which the IRNV can highight enemies, not blind you when you look through it, whats the point of a 1X scope if not for fast target acquisition? If anything this scope makes it so you can only camp in a corner looking through it the entire time so you can see a clear image, you cant be going down a corridor see an enemy and put a bead on him, because you have to wait 2 seconds before the scope will decide to not be an idiot and see things…half the… Read more »

N Stefaniak
N Stefaniak

Not whinging or anything.. But I guess its time for me to get myself a new game!

cry babies
cry babies

I love all of the comments of the people who like what dice did to the scope, it is so stupid to say that you like this change because how would you all feel if dice scrued around with something you really liked in the game and made it almost usless you use why cant people be grown ups and just let people vent.

cry babies
cry babies

I love all of the comments of the people who like what dice did to the scope, it is so stupid to say that you like this change because how would you all feel if dice scrued around with something you really liked in the game and made it almost usless you use why cant people be grown ups and just let people vent.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I noticed that the fog effect only happens in operation metro and damavand peak. I use it as normal in the other maps. So I just don’t use it in those 2 maps. 🙂

liquid
liquid

omg crying about that nooberific IR scope, fck yeah just throw it out of the game I dont’t care, was the lamest thing in bf3 anyway. Bout time they nerfed it. Like Rol says it’s pure for cqb,  now it is finaly used like how its meant to be used. No more over 200m’s bs kills with that scope.

Rol
Rol

I believe the IRNV modeled in pre patch BF3 is based upon the UT3500 Urban THermal Wpn Sight II.  It is for Urban close in cq warfare as well as for distance out to 550 meters….!  At close in setting it has a HFOV of  18″ (degrees).   The December Patch walked back the distance to @ 100 meters and made if more for urban night maps… ?  IT is used by special forces and not marines. If u r playing metro … the way it is modeled in the Dec patch does not take away from its game effectiveness as… Read more »

Bob
Bob

Wow, I knew there was a lot of dramatic Bitches on the game. But this whining about the IRNV scope has really put it in perspective. If you have a problem fragging without a noob crutch go pick up MW3 they will be more that happy to have another douche to their Noob Orgy

Cenk_akol
Cenk_akol

Serioustly IRNV users. It was cheating, it was too good. It ruined the game. I hope they remove it from the game.

Loyalrangers
Loyalrangers

The IRNV takes forever to fokus og all you see is a fuzzy fog for a few seconds rendering the sight useless. I agree with the previous comments that they could have added more sway to the sight and possibly also a timelimit in terms of aiming down the sight. Make it more difficult but don’t kill the scope.

WS
WS

yay finally

Gcacree
Gcacree

Might as well, just removed the scope all together.

Snomnky
Snomnky

soooo unhappy with the change to the IR scope. It has ruined the game for me, if they don’t change it back I will be getting MW4.

Realist
Realist

Now its just another run and gun game like the rest. The best thing about the irnv is that slowed people down to a more realistic situation rather than running around like Rambo. Dice has just become another COD run around. Pity…I was hoping for something different. Selling game for a nickel…that’s all its worth now.

Mastersen_ns
Mastersen_ns

I hope they do the same thing for PC. IRNV is killing the beauty of the game. All of you that say otherwise are camping noobs that don’t mind playing the game in one color.

NarkyMark
NarkyMark

OK Guys & Gals, lets put this in context: If everyone were to use the IRNV (Pre-nerf) then there would still always be winners and losers, those with skill and those without, I too was peed that they did this, but I’m more than capable of owning with Ironsights, I just loved raping the enemy with the IRNV abillity :o)! But I can live without it! You can still spot the campers if your squad has a MAV and if it doesn’t you can view the Kill Cam and take their Tags on respawn, I must admit the more I play since the… Read more »

Tony Ren

Why don’t all these WHINERS (including the writer of this article) just use a REAL scope? Instead of trying to take advantage of a clearly overpowered scope that made it incredibly easy to spot and shoot enemies.

All these whiners are just noobs that can’t kill anything using a regular gun sight/scope. I’m HAPPY that they nerfed that NOOB IRNV.

Peter Parkes
Peter Parkes

Totally agree they real F#$ked this up!!! this scope is useless and only gets you killed now & only half works in bright sunny maps, completely useless in the dark.. so why bother! Come on DICE.. UN-FiX the IRNV Scope! dont listen to the girly campers and snipers! listen to the real game players who paid big $$$ for this disappointing dial down of game play

IRNV is for pussies
IRNV is for pussies

Time for you IRNV people to get some skill.

Grant

i can’t stand it at all.  I play mostly as engineer on conquest.  They took away my IRNV, nerf’d my scar, and (what noone is talking about) heavily limit my mine usage to the 6 i get, they disappear when you drop more.  I thought the idea was stick with what your good at, but I take it now I wasnt good at anything and have been nerf’d MYSELF despite my 1.4/464  kdr/spm 🙁
It WAS soooo much fun too!

Flamerblackanivl
Flamerblackanivl

so glad that the scope has been ruined! the new patch is complete and total bullshit! cancel that update!

NarkyMark
NarkyMark

After trying every other scope/gun combo yesterday, I have decided to go back to using my BF2 favourite which was iron sights, as all other scopes suck IMO, not only that but at least they can’t NERF them! Can they? 🙂
So far so good, not the same KD ratio as before granted, but not negative either and I’m still winning and owning the campers too, I just get more DT’s off them instead of shooting them, so I’m still happy, but I’d love to see a better compromise of the IRNV in a future patch than a total FU that we have now!

Jclikeavillian15
Jclikeavillian15

fuckin pissed. thats all that needs to be said. 

Joe9089
Joe9089

the whole point of a night vision scope is to spot your enemies, since the patch you cant see sh*t
selling my game and getting the new Saints Row anyway, i reached rank 45 and it got boring after that anyway, to many campers!

badmojo451
badmojo451

I thought the scope was OP.  It made picking out target so much easier.  I used it in place of the iron sites.  I’m no expert, but I’m far from a “noob.” I’ve picked on many with the IRNV scope myself.  I just aim for the yellow.  It’s now limited to night boards.  So, now I use a different scope.  The next part is a opinion/rant.  So, you can stop reading if you want.  As far as campers are concerned. I have a solution, teams should  just line up thirty feet away, in neat lines, in brightly colored uniforms, and… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan

Game is ruined, they listened to the minority and actually ruined the best game out. I’m still pretty good I just don’t find the game fun anymore. Also for two weeks prior I had constantly told @battlefield to do a poll to see what people want, they told me to post an official suggestion. I did and it was ignored.

I’m buying mw3 next week, originally I never intended to as I ain’t played any but maybe a bf trade in now

123425
123425

After this patch i have sold my game on ebay

Barney

I agree that the IRNV scope needed some toning down. Making it useless is overboard. If your going to nerf the IRNV, then that in itself is reason enough to tone down the blinding flash lights that people use from 50 yards away to blind you.

Mdchiefs
Mdchiefs

ruined the IR scopes, may as well have just taken them out of the game.  I agree with a guy below, why not fix the dam tactical light, blinds you from across the room give me a break!  Also no fix with communications, and squad split on getting into a game.  Why the hell would I put 4 guys in a squad in the menu and then want to jump into a game with half the guys on the other team?  This patch is a failure as far as I’m concerned.

Chris
Chris

Its completely ruined the game. The IRNV scope was only *1 anyway so did not compare to other scopes in range. While it may have been over sensitive it has now been rendered useless on all kit. Played after the update and didnt enjoy it at all, everyone was just running around like a bunch of idiots not playing as teams the inrv scope just didnt pick them up. Consequently I got knifed in one playing session more times than in the previous 2 weeks. They have certainly over nurfed the scope rendering it unusable. oh well back to Bad Company at least… Read more »

Esteban Ramirez
Esteban Ramirez

So many people relied far too much on their IR Scopes lol. I love the new patch. This makes sense to give the IR scope a certain range, otherwise it’s too over-powered.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ridiculous.  I haven’t played since this patch, but I was more concerned with them fixing the squad issues.  When I go into a squad with 3 or 4 buddies, the voice communication is spotty at best.  We can’t coordinate anything.  Also, when we get put into a game, our squad will sometimes get split up between the 2 teams, rather than finding us a game that has room.  How about fixing that? 

BF3Fan001
BF3Fan001

Bad call on Nerfing the IRNV, is dice going to do something about the freaking campers? Maybe Dice can nerf them too.

Tom
Tom

Have not downloaded the patch yet on PS3, but looks like the IRNV has been nerfed far too much. They should just use black and white and add sway like they do in COD, or reduce the distance at which the enemy lights up. Shame about the Scar-h :(, by far and away my favourite gun in the game, already at 5th service star on it. Whenever I use that gun I usually go on a rampage. Oh well, all good things come to an end.  I’m rank 38 and kdratio of 2.2, so I’ll see how my game has… Read more »

Mitchell17797
Mitchell17797

i usauly get a kill 2 death ratio of 3.0 now its fallen to 2.0 

NarkyMark
NarkyMark

In a Blackadder kind of way:

Yeah.
Out you popped, out of DICE’s servers and everybody

shouting : “It’s an IR Night Vision Scope, it’s an IR Night Vision Scope!”.
And somebody said “but it

can’t see in the dark!”. And then I said “A night vison scope that
can’t see in the dark? God

be praised, it is a miracle. A IRNV that can’t see the IR!” And then
Sir

Thomas More pointed out that a scope that can’t see in the dark, is a scope!

Anyway, I was really disappointed.

Nade
Nade

I have a problem now – I was one of those who relied on the IRNV as I only own a small old box TV set with a blurry screen. Now, enemy targets are hard enough to acquire on a 40 inch HDTV, imagine how hard it is for me! I know it was overpowered  – but they have just been lazy with this nerf They should have got rid of the green and yellow and had the far more realistic black and white – so the enemies glow white (among anything else hot) Or they could have simply taken it’s use… Read more »

NarkyMark
NarkyMark

If it was the such a brilliant [easy kill] scope why didn’t everyone use it? I’ll tell you why because it sucked at close quarters and suffered sway, unless you mastered it, like I did!
I can see both sides of the arguments, but don’t say people who used it had no skill, FFS I wish I still had my ironed sighted M1 or AK47, I’d show you all what skill is!

Dynasty2021
Dynasty2021

At the end of the day, the IRNV was a scope that RUINED the game, as it takes no skill to use, makes it impossible to flank the enemy, enables cross-map sniping etc.  So the skill-less prats using the IRNV are now leaving BF thinking it’s ruined the game. Believe me, you wont be missed. Now the argument is that camping will increase.  Well no, ridiculous argument, seeing as the only people that really camp are snipers or low levelled players.  Snipers are laughably easy to get behind, you can even run AT THEM from the front, and because they… Read more »

Jesse Gallegos

I think its great they they acknowledged the problem; I also think they went about it the lazy way. It seems that DICE decided to simply take off the glowing image around bodies and heat sources, and leave the plain green screen on. I thought BF3 was supposed to be about realism!?! I’m disappointed because I feel they should’ve went about it a better way. One way could’ve been by making it difficult for people to use during daylight or heavily lit levels, by making it super bright only in direct lit areas, like in real life; also leaving the… Read more »

Goldensgods
Goldensgods

WOW, the patch ruined the g3 and scar and IRNV scope but the rest of the patch is pretty good and solved alot of issues love how the mini guns on choopers kill people in like 2hits, 🙂 so much easier..
and they arn’t any real dark places on the game to use a night scope.. if there was then it shud only be used in night maps

James PrettyBoy Polley

im on PC and im loving the sound of this nerf. i dont use the IRNV but i sure do get killed by nubs using it on tanks!!! grow sum ballls and get skillz!

BF3GUY
BF3GUY

I concur with the others, the IRNV was way OP… Now its a bit more fair, its suppose to be used in low light situations not all the time like it was being used. When you utilize any NV equipment (IR or not) in any bright environment your literally going to see very little. So the haze they are using now is accurate, if you cant deal with it then find a new scope or hope they release a Thermal IR scope… Doubt it tho.

Sheanmckan2 0
Sheanmckan2 0

i am so freakin happy .it is a balancing issue were one scope ruled them all….the people who needed this scope are the lower skilled players who need a crutch for locating enemies ….do you want auto aim as well?? answer …u probably do…tough titty ..get better at the game…locating enemies should take skill and  a good eye ,,not zooming in and spinning in circles and locating every enemy within 500yrds that just pathetic..

Aoaponte
Aoaponte

Everyone got used to a fake IRNV scope. From what I see in the video, its more realistic. NV works by using available light ambient light to increase visibility in the dark so if you point it a a flashlight or on a well lit area, you wont see anything.

Alex

It is not a problem. It is CURE!

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