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Battlefield 3: Javelin nerf is a hard decision for DICE

We have yet more news of possible ‘nerfs’ that will be coming to Battlefield 3 multiplayer in future updates, as DICE’s core designer Alan Kertz has once again offered a detailed insight into some areas that may or may not need patching. Just like previous nerfs to go live in the game, these fresh ones are debatable.

First there was the infamous IRNV scope and Tactical Light patches in the game which are now in effect and is still the cause of much debate amongst gamers on whether they should have been touched in the place. The tactical light needed a fix, we think most BF3 players will agree with that, but while the IRNV scope could have needed a tweak, they surely shouldn’t have made it useless which they now have.

Next came talk on a potential nerf to the FAMAS assault rifle. This has yet to be implemented in game, but it looks like DICE may be planning to make the FAMAS less powerful when paired up with the foregrip accessory. On the subject of accessories, we’re hearing that DICE are also thinking of making substantial changes to the other accessories. This article here lists information on changes coming to the foregrip, bipod, suppressor, heavy barrel, flash suppressor and the laser pointer.

This brings us up to speed on the next possible nerf – the javelin. As most of you know, the javelin has the ability to take down ground targets after a lock on, and also air targets when combined with a laser designator such as the SOFLAM, CITV Station or Laser Painter. Some gamers, mostly helicopter pilots are unhappy that the javelin, primarily a tool for ground-based targets can one-shot kill an attack helicopter after a lock on. Just like the IRNV scope, this is debatable. They have already nerfed the stinger missile to do less damage against aircraft, and we have a feeling that the same thing is going to happen to the javelin. While this will be a lot more beneficial on PC, this could be a bad move on console.

For some reason, the SOFLAM is hardly used as it is on conole, so getting a lock on an air target with the javelin is a rarity in itself. Nerfing the weapon so it isn’t a one shot kill anymore may be a big blow for console players. DICE has the hard task of keeping the balance and making everyone happy though, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

What are your thoughts on the javelin – does it need to be made less powerful against air targets or not?

Written by Alan Ng

Alan has been working for Product-Reviews since 2009 and became the Editor-in-chief in 2014. He has a passion for technology, the latest mobile phones and gadgets, and the gaming industry. Alan is a graduate of Canterbury Christ Church University and completed a B.A in Commercial Music in 2008. While expressing a keen interest in all areas that PR cover, you'll usually find Alan in the gaming section, where he'll be keeping enthusiasts up to date on all the latest news and reviews for consoles and PC.

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Socks
Socks

DICE is making the game so not enjoyable. Someone needs to start a petition to get back our more realistic weapons. Why change them? Its sooo stupid. Everytime there is a patch it gets less enjoyable. 

Jiffyjeff
Jiffyjeff

Screw that! If teams manage to nab all attack heli’s scouts or whatever, then the ONLY way to counter it is with Javelin missiles. You nerf the Javelin, and the opposition grabs both choppers you are monumentally disadvantaged. The is javelin levels the playing field, it doesn’t tip it…

Rahulrrvp
Rahulrrvp

One thing that really pisses me off is that when i am watching the end game credits why cant i access my loadouts and make use of the new attachments that i have unlocked!!!!!!!!

Rahulrrvp
Rahulrrvp

One thing that really pisses me off is that when i am watching the end game credits why cant i access my loadouts and make use of the new attachments that i have unlocked!!!!!!!!

Ochra
Ochra

Dont nerf javelin and for good sake take the irnv out of the game . Take them all away proximityscanners thermalsight, irnv, auto spotting, minimapspotting. just ruines game play.With the you can forget using the enviroment for cover just run and gun and die

Hei Atzfel
Hei Atzfel

Leave the Javelin alone DICE! Yeah, it does destroy an air target in one shot if it hits, but that’s the issue, IF! Half the time you shoot a Javelin at a Laser Painted air target the missile will either completely miss or just blow up harmlessly right behind the target, and that’s assuming that you even have anyone on your team/squad using a SOFLAM or Laser Painter that you can’t talk to, which is nearly impossible to see. So I restate; leave the Javelin alone! It’s one of the few things that actually rewards teamwork in this game so… Read more »

Bellator03
Bellator03

Can we have the SOFLAM paint buildings to open holes in walls (or just bring it down).  That would be realistic and beneficial.  

Guest
Guest

Simple fix, let players know the difference from laser lock like the SOFLAM or incoming heatseeker missiles by making it a different tone or warning text.  That way you have a better chance of using the ECM jammer at the right time…javelins won’t be so terrible then for choppers.

Caeppley
Caeppley

yea always gotta please the people that cry about everything in games these days it seems. wtf you really need too nerf it for learn too play the game and stop botching about a weapon that you need too lock on with

Jruiz_0387
Jruiz_0387

Why dokt they make the soflam the way it is in real life. In the game you can only lock onto vehicles. Why dont the make it where you point at something dont matter what and you press the trigget and it locks onto wherever the laser is pointing. Then the bomb can hit there and soflam would be grratly used. I dont use it cause its boring. Sit there and lock onto vehicles. Thats not fun.if the soflam could independently lase and lock onto anything you point at i would use it. Like in medal of honor, when you… Read more »

Matt
Matt

They need to buff it until it’s a one hit kill on the aircraft carriers

Matt
Matt

DONT NERF THE JAVELIN BUFF IT

Daniel Lahey

The javelin needs a buff if anything, its lock on time is pretty bad compared to the quick fire of the SMAW or RPG. Leave it as it is.

Philip Littler

Typical “play to the kids” strategy. It’s obvious they’re making their target audience COD players – now they’re actually listening to them as well. DICE – you need to remember where you’re money comes from.

DICE = Idiots
DICE = Idiots

DON’T TOUCH the JAVELIN!!!!!!     DICE is a bunch of fking noobs.  Noobs: OMG! Javelin is overpowered DICE:  How? Noobs: They keep getting 1 shot kills! DICE: But its a Javelin. In reality, its suppose to destroy a large vehicle/aircraft. Noobs: They always locking on me! Dice: Alot of locking is done by Soflam, CITV, Laser-painting….doesn’t mean it will actually kill you. They have to lock on you then its harder if you’ve Unlocked “CAMO” for the helicopter. Noobs: But I don’t have “CAMO,” and I don’t use the “smoke.” DICE: You have skills? Noobs: I’m a noob… DICE: Ok NERF… Read more »

Ota
Ota

when you over teak a game no one plays the game anymore. im tired of game devolpers giving in too whinning people because they had a few bad rounds or because they dont have that accessory yet. just play the game as it was ment to be played without the stupid tweaks. if it aint broke dont fix it

Ed
Ed

WTF No one even uses the Javelin!

Roberttko
Roberttko

I agree leave javelin alone in fact if the game suppose look andfeel like the real thing leave it alone if its on game is on the game leave all the weapons damage like they should be if real should be real in the game.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The said thing is the Javelin is suppose to be superior to the other launchers in the game and is the last one to unlock, but it is the least used of all of them. There is no point in nerfing this weapon. You are lucky to be on a team that can utilize both the SOFLAM and the Javelin. I don’t understand the nerfing of the weapon attachments either. They are unlocks you get for reaching certain acheivements for that weapon. They shouldn’t be nerfed to take away from the weapon but to add to it. There are obvious… Read more »

Gunsmithy
Gunsmithy

Speaking as a dedicated attack chopper gunner with my friend my pilot, I can say with all honesty that the javelin does not need a nerf. As it was said, it requires someone to laze the target, and if you’re a half decent chopper team, you will find and eliminate that threat quickly. Just like it requires a little teamwork to take down a chopper with a javelin, it takes a little teamwork to take out that team. That sounds like balance to me.

Kevin McMenamin

Leave the javelin alone.  Since they nerfed Stingers I never use them. I want to destroy big targes, not swat at them like flies just to have them rain down on me until I’m dead.   

javelin is hardly used enough, so when it does come out its an awesome surprise to the victim

crc-computer.com

Excellent Review

Maskedhobo
Maskedhobo

The javelin should be a one hit kill to aircraft, it is a very large warhead. As everyone else has said, it takes someone running a SOFLAM to even take a helicopter on. I rarely get anyone using it, I would like to see it be more effective against ground targets without having to use a SOFLAM. Most of mine just take a strange path and hit the ground in front of the tank. We shall see, as long as the people keep their whining up they get what they want, if we want it (the game) to not get… Read more »

Dynasty2021
Dynasty2021

For the PC, Tac Light is still not nerfed enough, and nor is the IRNV.  Its hardly ‘useless’ as you seem to keep suggesting every time it is mentioned.  If anything, it’s hardly changed and is still overpowered, but is definitely being used alot less. Considering the teamwork required to Javelin a helo or jet, it should remain as it is.  And you’re not guaranteed a kill anyway, as all the helo or jet has to do is put something physical between it and the missile, just as stingers. I’ve missed plenty of helos with the Javelin before it was… Read more »

KubaKoobs Klitenik

Personally if an air traget doesn’t have flares then they should be shot down. On a console it’s so rare to be able to get a lock on to a helicopter. Even when I do it rarely takes them out in one hit and too top that off I only get 3 rockets or so to fire. Personally they should give more rockets to use and leave the strength alone.

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