New Battlefield 3 patch problems begin with ‘useless’ IRNV scope

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Earlier on we informed you that DICE had sent out a huge 756MB patch update for the PlayStation 3 version of Battlefield 3. Prior to the patch, a lot of people were complaining about how the IRNV scope was ‘overpowered’ and although it isn’t included in the official patch notes, it looks like the IRNV has well and truly been nerfed by DICE.

To say a lot of you are unhappy with the changes is an understatement. We’re seeing a lot of feedback from you guys saying that the patch has ruined the game, not only because of the IRNV changes, but also many other aspects of gameplay too.

The popular SCAR-H weapon has also been tweaked to be less effective as well, but for now we’re going to concentrate on what changes DICE has made to the IRNV scope. If you play a game now after installing the patch update, you’ll find that the IRNV is a lot more difficult to use, somewhat inconsistent even as you’ll see that the scope no longer spots all enemies, either in broad daylight or on night maps.

We’ve seen in game that in some cases, the IRNV will work as normal and you’ll be able to spot enemies, but other times you’ll be aiming down the sights with your scope with the enemy right in front of you and he or she doesn’t show up. Here are some of the hundreds of complaints that are coming in on Twitter:

”@Battlefield nerfing the IRNV scope just ruined the game for me. This PS3 patch really is pathetic. #BF3EpicFail”

”@zh1nt0 i’m addicted to the IRNV scope too. shame it had to be nerfed but, all good things come to an end! #stillgotskills”

”@Battlefield wow the update destroyed the IRNV scope, I can’t see anything, all I can c is extremely close range”

”The IRNV scope nerf is hilarious. Can’t see anything. xD”

To show you the problem at close hand, we’ve even got a short video clip to show you which gives you a solid look at the changes to the IRNV scope following on from the patch update. The gameplay is on Operation Metro and you can clearly see that you can no longer spot players with the scope now giving players a ‘foggy’ sight, as opposed to the heat radiation prior to the patch.

If you have installed the recent patch update for Battlefield 3, let us know your thoughts on the changes. Are you happy that the IRNV scope has been nerfed like this or not?

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  • http://twitter.com/AlexRelice Alex

    It is not a problem. It is CURE!

    • Brytan

      Instead of toning it down you absolutely kill the thing and give more reasons for the noobs to camp,what a joke

      • Esteban Ramirez

        Where do some people get their ideas from??? You think an IRnv was the solution to camping? That a cowardly noob would suddenly run around more just because he has it? It makes more sense that he would camp even MORE since he can see every enemy down an entire road from one end of the map to the other. Really, what a joke. -_-

  • Aoaponte

    Everyone got used to a fake IRNV scope. From what I see in the video, its more realistic. NV works by using available light ambient light to increase visibility in the dark so if you point it a a flashlight or on a well lit area, you wont see anything.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=886775077 Rachel Holmes

      its IRnv not just night vision a lot of people seem confused for some reason to such a simple fact to that point now with this update the scope shouldnt be called irnv it should be just night vision thats all it is now you only get the effect of a giant green blob on your screen if it really was infrared night vision like the name implies then an appropriate nerf would have been to limit it to a close to low mid range display of heat instead of the across the map it used to be

      • Mike

        You can’t judge the irnv based on a 34 second video where the guy keeps scoping in on enemy flashlights and fire.  ALthough i have to thank the guy for showing us that the scope no longer penetrates flashlights and fire.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=886775077 Rachel Holmes

      its IRnv not just night vision a lot of people seem confused for some reason to such a simple fact to that point now with this update the scope shouldnt be called irnv it should be just night vision thats all it is now you only get the effect of a giant green blob on your screen if it really was infrared night vision like the name implies then an appropriate nerf would have been to limit it to a close to low mid range display of heat instead of the across the map it used to be

  • Sheanmckan2 0

    i am so freakin happy .it is a balancing issue were one scope ruled them all….the people who needed this scope are the lower skilled players who need a crutch for locating enemies ….do you want auto aim as well?? answer …u probably do…tough titty ..get better at the game…locating enemies should take skill and  a good eye ,,not zooming in and spinning in circles and locating every enemy within 500yrds that just pathetic..

    • Anonymous

      LOL spinning in circles – I hadn’t thought of that.  That’s hilarious.  I refused to use it out of principle and I’m pretty sure my k/d took a hit as a result.

    • http://twitter.com/sam_816 Varun Verma

      if u feel that use of IRNV is unfair then so is the reviving mechanism and using RPGs on infantry and not to forget snipers camping at far off places. If you were pawnd too often by the ppl using this scope then it’s a different thing. I get pawnd by the rubber-band effect and lag. i wish patch had fixed that.
      scopes with higher magnification glint.(that’s balancing)
      tactical light blinding from 200-300 meters ( not balanced)
      IRNV spots foes but no magnification (that’s balancing) if ppl still feel its too strong then disable spotting and reduce the distance to which scope is effective)
      making it useless is ridiculous better remove it from the game

      • Peter Parkes

        Totally agree

  • BF3GUY

    I concur with the others, the IRNV was way OP… Now its a bit more fair, its suppose to be used in low light situations not all the time like it was being used. When you utilize any NV equipment (IR or not) in any bright environment your literally going to see very little. So the haze they are using now is accurate, if you cant deal with it then find a new scope or hope they release a Thermal IR scope… Doubt it tho.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=841920105 James PrettyBoy Polley

    im on PC and im loving the sound of this nerf. i dont use the IRNV but i sure do get killed by nubs using it on tanks!!! grow sum ballls and get skillz!

    • Facepalm, James. Facepalm.

      If you are being killed by IRNV-scoped guns while you are in a tank, I would suggest never using a tank again.

    • Blahblah

      too bad that on tank its thermal vision that hasn’t been nerfed…. cry me a river

  • Goldensgods

    WOW, the patch ruined the g3 and scar and IRNV scope but the rest of the patch is pretty good and solved alot of issues love how the mini guns on choopers kill people in like 2hits, :) so much easier..
    and they arn’t any real dark places on the game to use a night scope.. if there was then it shud only be used in night maps

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000581953673 Jesse Gallegos

    I think its great they they acknowledged the problem; I also think they went about it the lazy way. It seems that DICE decided to simply take off the glowing image around bodies and heat sources, and leave the plain green screen on. I thought BF3 was supposed to be about realism!?! I’m disappointed because I feel they should’ve went about it a better way. One way could’ve been by making it difficult for people to use during daylight or heavily lit levels, by making it super bright only in direct lit areas, like in real life; also leaving the IRNV alone for night levels and dark areas, as it worked perfectly fine under these conditions. To completely Nerf the IRNV is ridiculous and will make people question why they even put it in the game in the first place.

  • Dynasty2021

    At the end of the day, the IRNV was a scope that RUINED the game, as it takes no skill to use, makes it impossible to flank the enemy, enables cross-map sniping etc. 

    So the skill-less prats using the IRNV are now leaving BF thinking it’s ruined the game.

    Believe me, you wont be missed.

    Now the argument is that camping will increase.  Well no, ridiculous argument, seeing as the only people that really camp are snipers or low levelled players.  Snipers are laughably easy to get behind, you can even run AT THEM from the front, and because they live looking down their scopes, they dont see you.  Rack up the knife kills.

    And the counter to camping; kill cam dumb ass.  Their position is shown, so you complain about him camping but then you dont spawn as close to him as possible, run over and mug him?  That’s your problem.

    If they had not nerfed it the way they did, it would have been a pointless nerf with a pathetic change that actually makes no difference, which would enrage more than those pathetic enough to be addicted to it.

    By being addicted to it, you have no skill at all and are just admiting it.  So get out of our game. 

    Worst scope ever added to a game. Even if they made it like the beta’s version, it would have been better than the damn predator mode it became.  In the beta, it was hard to distinguish between the yellows of the map and that of your enemy, which they then removed and made the whole scope green, sticking you out like a sore thumb and you just got nailed from any distance, no matter how well you hid (been spotted and killed so many times by an IRNV when using any other scope would have been impossible to spot me – behind a bush, in the grass and under a fallen tree for example).

    • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

      100% agree. I can’t wait to see how all the noobs who became addicted to the IRNV crutch have their stats drop.

      Stop whining, and use a regular weapon/scope.

  • NarkyMark

    If it was the such a brilliant [easy kill] scope why didn’t everyone use it? I’ll tell you why because it sucked at close quarters and suffered sway, unless you mastered it, like I did!
    I can see both sides of the arguments, but don’t say people who used it had no skill, FFS I wish I still had my ironed sighted M1 or AK47, I’d show you all what skill is!

  • Nade

    I have a problem now – I was one of those who relied on the IRNV as I only own a small old box TV set with a blurry screen. Now, enemy targets are hard enough to acquire on a 40 inch HDTV, imagine how hard it is for me!

    I know it was overpowered  - but they have just been lazy with this nerf

    They should have got rid of the green and yellow and had the far more realistic black and white – so the enemies glow white (among anything else hot)

    Or they could have simply taken it’s use away from all except recon, the class the scope makes sense with.

    Or simply changed the distance the yellow shows up

    All of these are simple and sensible fixes to the problem, not this…… mess they have come up with

  • NarkyMark

    In a Blackadder kind of way:

    Yeah.
    Out you popped, out of DICE’s servers and everybody

    shouting : “It’s an IR Night Vision Scope, it’s an IR Night Vision Scope!”.
    And somebody said “but it

    can’t see in the dark!”. And then I said “A night vison scope that
    can’t see in the dark? God

    be praised, it is a miracle. A IRNV that can’t see the IR!” And then
    Sir

    Thomas More pointed out that a scope that can’t see in the dark, is a scope!

    Anyway, I was really disappointed.

  • Mitchell17797

    i usauly get a kill 2 death ratio of 3.0 now its fallen to 2.0 

  • Tom

    Have not downloaded the patch yet on PS3, but looks like the IRNV has been nerfed far too much. They should just use black and white and add sway like they do in COD, or reduce the distance at which the enemy lights up. Shame about the Scar-h :(, by far and away my favourite gun in the game, already at 5th service star on it. Whenever I use that gun I usually go on a rampage. Oh well, all good things come to an end. 

    I’m rank 38 and kdratio of 2.2, so I’ll see how my game has been affected after the patch. Interestingly my kdratio on COD MW3 is also 2.2 exactly. One pet hate I hope they nerf in the next patch, that bloody tactical light, overpowered as hell at medium range.

    • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

      If you look at some damage stats, the SCAR was WAY overpowered compared to other guns. It did way more damage than most other rifles and carbines, and that just didn’t make sense.

  • BF3Fan001

    Bad call on Nerfing the IRNV, is dice going to do something about the freaking campers? Maybe Dice can nerf them too.

    • Ryno

      If you don’t like campers, maybe you shouldn’t play a fps.

    • Mike

      Go run around cod dummy. Campers make the game fun

  • Anonymous

    Ridiculous.  I haven’t played since this patch, but I was more concerned with them fixing the squad issues.  When I go into a squad with 3 or 4 buddies, the voice communication is spotty at best.  We can’t coordinate anything.  Also, when we get put into a game, our squad will sometimes get split up between the 2 teams, rather than finding us a game that has room.  How about fixing that? 

  • Esteban Ramirez

    So many people relied far too much on their IR Scopes lol. I love the new patch. This makes sense to give the IR scope a certain range, otherwise it’s too over-powered.

    • Suckmydingo

      it doesn’t have any range now?

    • Eagle

      Maybe it was overpowered, but now I don’t know what it does.   It has zero range as far as picking up any heat signature.  I tried looking a teammates right beside me in the dark tunnel of Damavand Peak and I could see him better withough the scope at abour 3 meters.

    • N Stefaniak

      I worked my arse off getting IRNV on numerous weapons for different classes and now for it to be screwed with like it is now.. kind of annoys me, Seeings I played the game for like 9 days in total! Bah! 

  • Chris

    Its completely ruined the game. The IRNV scope was only *1 anyway so did not compare to other scopes in range. While it may have been over sensitive it has now been rendered useless on all kit.
    Played after the update and didnt enjoy it at all, everyone was just running around like a bunch of idiots not playing as teams the inrv scope just didnt pick them up. Consequently I got knifed in one playing session more times than in the previous 2 weeks. They have certainly over nurfed the scope rendering it unusable.
    oh well back to Bad Company at least you can have a good team game.

    • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

      Just use a different sight/scope, stupid.

  • Mdchiefs

    ruined the IR scopes, may as well have just taken them out of the game.  I agree with a guy below, why not fix the dam tactical light, blinds you from across the room give me a break!  Also no fix with communications, and squad split on getting into a game.  Why the hell would I put 4 guys in a squad in the menu and then want to jump into a game with half the guys on the other team?  This patch is a failure as far as I’m concerned.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VCKZSUBMPZMP4PKJFIAKG3U6RQ Barney

    I agree that the IRNV scope needed some toning down. Making it useless is overboard. If your going to nerf the IRNV, then that in itself is reason enough to tone down the blinding flash lights that people use from 50 yards away to blind you.

    • Ghm

      Ditto. Not to mention (also), IN BROAD F*CKING DAYLIGHT, too

    • N Stefaniak

      Totally agree. Whats worse is seeing team mates with the tactical light and them flashing you in the face and not being able to see the blue icons above their heads. So you end up pumpin a few bullets into your team mate cos you cant freakin tell who is who! Stupid fkn light!

  • 123425

    After this patch i have sold my game on ebay

  • Jonathan

    Game is ruined, they listened to the minority and actually ruined the best game out. I’m still pretty good I just don’t find the game fun anymore. Also for two weeks prior I had constantly told @battlefield to do a poll to see what people want, they told me to post an official suggestion. I did and it was ignored.

    I’m buying mw3 next week, originally I never intended to as I ain’t played any but maybe a bf trade in now

    • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

      Lol. One SINGLE attachment gets nerfed, and that “ruins” the game? You were obviously extremely dependent on that crutch, overpowered IRNV.

      There’s a reason the IRNV was called a noob crutch by so many people, and now we’re seeing that so many noobs can’t function using a regular weapon. Hahaha.

      • Alexander Siksallander

        One single attachtment? R u moron or what? now u can see all explosive mine c4 and everyshit still PS3 freezes and still no squad chat.

  • badmojo451

    I thought the scope was OP.  It made picking out target so much easier.  I used it in place of the iron sites.  I’m no expert, but I’m far from a “noob.” I’ve picked on many with the IRNV scope myself.  I just aim for the yellow.  It’s now limited to night boards.  So, now I use a different scope.  The next part is a opinion/rant.  So, you can stop reading if you want.  As far as campers are concerned. I have a solution, teams should  just line up thirty feet away, in neat lines, in brightly colored uniforms, and fire volleys of bullets at each other.  I think not.  It’s called an ambushing or Guerrilla warfare.  It’s puzzling to me why this is frown upon in what is clearly a war like setting. Camping is unfair is like like saying flanking is unfair, or shooting/knifing an enemy in the back is unfair, or killing an enemy without first properly, but safely, firing a warning shot is unfair. And another thing,Personally, I think that 12x scope is for munchkins.  Real men use iron sites. ;-)

    • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

      You can tell that everyone whining about the IRNV nerf is just a no-skill noob that can’t kill anything using a regular gun.

      • Anonymous

        Not really, considering I love the Holographic sight, but found the IR sight to be fun to use on a couple maps. Now it’s crap.

      • badmojo451

        Not true. You have to kill quite a few to get to the scope.  So, by then you should be quite “seasoned.”   The IRNV made is so much easier to pick out targets.  I was picking off snipers with a carbine, G36C.  Even at range, the yellow makes your target stand out.

        • Bob

          well you said it best yourself, you were able to pick off snipers with a carbine across the map. Not very logical for gameplay

  • Joe9089

    the whole point of a night vision scope is to spot your enemies, since the patch you cant see sh*t
    selling my game and getting the new Saints Row anyway, i reached rank 45 and it got boring after that anyway, to many campers!

    • Bob

      Nobody is going to miss you

      • Bobisaprick

        Bob, you’re a prick, I bet you’re a lonely little wanker who sits there fapping over his kill count. Get a fuckin life.

  • Jclikeavillian15

    fuckin pissed. thats all that needs to be said. 

  • NarkyMark

    After trying every other scope/gun combo yesterday, I have decided to go back to using my BF2 favourite which was iron sights, as all other scopes suck IMO, not only that but at least they can’t NERF them! Can they? :)
    So far so good, not the same KD ratio as before granted, but not negative either and I’m still winning and owning the campers too, I just get more DT’s off them instead of shooting them, so I’m still happy, but I’d love to see a better compromise of the IRNV in a future patch than a total FU that we have now!

  • Flamerblackanivl

    so glad that the scope has been ruined! the new patch is complete and total bullshit! cancel that update!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E5GSD54T5KGTZSUVYY2YRTF2O4 Grant

    i can’t stand it at all.  I play mostly as engineer on conquest.  They took away my IRNV, nerf’d my scar, and (what noone is talking about) heavily limit my mine usage to the 6 i get, they disappear when you drop more.  I thought the idea was stick with what your good at, but I take it now I wasnt good at anything and have been nerf’d MYSELF despite my 1.4/464  kdr/spm :(
    It WAS soooo much fun too!

  • IRNV is for pussies

    Time for you IRNV people to get some skill.

    • Rol

      Since I am playing as a marine  and certainly not as a special forces op…. I try to stay away from this scope…. I try to use the holograhic red dot scopes….etc….  Once u get used to them … u can compete with the IRNV players….:<)

      Rol

  • Peter Parkes

    Totally agree they real F#$ked this up!!! this scope is useless and only gets you killed now & only half works in bright sunny maps, completely useless in the dark.. so why bother! Come on DICE.. UN-FiX the IRNV Scope! dont listen to the girly campers and snipers! listen to the real game players who paid big $$$ for this disappointing dial down of game play

    • Jamonymow

      you are the camper who uses the noobs scope learn how to play and use your eyes

  • http://twitter.com/TestTone Tony Ren

    Why don’t all these WHINERS (including the writer of this article) just use a REAL scope? Instead of trying to take advantage of a clearly overpowered scope that made it incredibly easy to spot and shoot enemies.

    All these whiners are just noobs that can’t kill anything using a regular gun sight/scope. I’m HAPPY that they nerfed that NOOB IRNV.

    • Jjr903

      dude the inrv was a real scope duh! its used in the military so therefore it must be real i think that maybe the should have made it only useable on darker maps, but to take the scope pretty much out of the game sucks for those people who suck at first person shooters and needed that so that they could get a few kills.i can play without it but since i payed an arm and a leg for the game and for xbox live every month i want to have the option to play with my damn night vision!!! screw u cod players go back to mw3

  • NarkyMark

    OK Guys & Gals, lets put this in context:

    If everyone were to use the IRNV (Pre-nerf) then there would still always be winners and losers, those with skill and those without, I too was peed that they did this, but I’m more than capable of owning with Ironsights, I just loved raping the enemy with the IRNV abillity :o)! But I can live without it!

    You can still spot the campers if your squad has a MAV and if it doesn’t you can view the Kill Cam and take their Tags on respawn, I must admit the more I play since the NERF the more it makes for far more tactical gameplay because no-one has the IRNV’s previous abillities, Come on guys admit it, from one fellow IRNV lover to another we do all seem now to be on a far more level playing field than before, and only the best of the best will survive.

    I do wonder what all the whingers and moaners will want Nerfing next though? Silencer, MAV, even The HUD MAP ffs, maybe? Whatever they get Nerfed, there is one fact that will always remain, they CAN’T Nerf the most skillfull of players!
    …….Watch your back dudes! ;o)

  • Mastersen_ns

    I hope they do the same thing for PC. IRNV is killing the beauty of the game. All of you that say otherwise are camping noobs that don’t mind playing the game in one color.

  • Realist

    Now its just another run and gun game like the rest. The best thing about the irnv is that slowed people down to a more realistic situation rather than running around like Rambo. Dice has just become another COD run around. Pity…I was hoping for something different. Selling game for a nickel…that’s all its worth now.

  • Snomnky

    soooo unhappy with the change to the IR scope. It has ruined the game for me, if they don’t change it back I will be getting MW4.

  • Gcacree

    Might as well, just removed the scope all together.

    • Rolande_D

      That’s the issue, it’s on your disc. You’re losing out.

  • WS

    yay finally

  • Loyalrangers

    The IRNV takes forever to fokus og all you see is a fuzzy fog for a few seconds rendering the sight useless. I agree with the previous comments that they could have added more sway to the sight and possibly also a timelimit in terms of aiming down the sight. Make it more difficult but don’t kill the scope.

    • http://twitter.com/trees415 Nick

      No, they don’t even need to do that, just change it so it’s similar to real life, in which it is useless in settings with moderate to high ambient light. I think that might be what Dice was going for, though they they obviously didn’t effectively implement the change.
      But looking at it with perspective, I’m getting sick of this whole reoccurin process of nerfing the crap out of this game. guns is getting so damn old in my opinion. All because of thoes damn 10 year old that go onto the forums on Battlelog and throw a tantrum over how the ____ is so overpowered and, and thus continue their act of melodrama as if DICE and EA had just robbed their house.
      Yet, the craziest part of it all is that instead of passively ignoring these crybabies, for some reason Dice has decided to listen to them, and thus things like the Recon class and jets have been quickly gutted of their capabilities which allow them to be competitive in the game, especially the sniper. Which of the other classes in BF3 has to constant deal with handicaps that hinder aim and give away the recon position? So then why was the damage modifier for all the bolt-action rifles was lowered across the board, thus nerfing the weapons used by a class that is already handicapped?
      Oh wow, look at me, now I’m throwing a tantrum lol.
      Anyways, I hope Dice can find their way back to the roots of this series as they continue to manage and update BF3.

  • Cenk_akol

    Serioustly IRNV users. It was cheating, it was too good. It ruined the game. I hope they remove it from the game.

    • Gav

      im believing your giving your side to the patch as CHEATING!!! irnv is used for sole purpose of identifying targets whether to spot or kill the enemy,TAKE IT YOUR A SNIPER USER AND HAPPY NOW??as you cant be spotted as easily.If any real armed forces were to be using the new irnv patch im sure we would have plenty of our troops sent back in body bags!!! AS THIS IS NOTHING BUT A HINDERENCE AND NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING A TASK THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR!!!!They use this equip in body locations after earthquakes and other sad acts of god whether day or night the equip is still of major use,PERSONALLY i use the m4 which isnt a powerful weapon but i was satisfied and getting a plus on more than a few occasions NOW i cant even get a plus,i dont have a great 20/20 vision and need glass no matter what game i play(42″tv) and on normal scope i cant see an enemy as clear as a spotted, nose running drips, who just camp and use the sniper rifle!!! SNIPERS SNIPERS SNIPERS battlefield is for you,and im sure that you are the people who have complained…?!!I am now a very not wanting to play bf3 disgruntled person.GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!!!!!

  • Bob

    Wow, I knew there was a lot of dramatic Bitches on the game. But this whining about the IRNV scope has really put it in perspective. If you have a problem fragging without a noob crutch go pick up MW3 they will be more that happy to have another douche to their Noob Orgy

    • Irishdublin

      Looks a bit like you are one of those dramatic bitches! Shouldn’t have been nerfed for the few who where too dumb to figure another way to the objective who wants to bet Bob runs around with a M249 why don’t you go play MW3 for you are a douche!

  • Rol

    I believe the IRNV modeled in pre patch BF3 is based upon the UT3500 Urban THermal Wpn Sight II.  It is for Urban close in cq warfare as well as for distance out to 550 meters….!  At close in setting it has a HFOV of  18″ (degrees).   The December Patch walked back the distance to @ 100 meters and made if more for urban night maps… ?  IT is used by special forces and not marines.

    If u r playing metro … the way it is modeled in the Dec patch does not take away from its game effectiveness as u r playing in close quarters.   If you are playing on the Tehran highway map ….  the scope will blur out after around 100 meters….This is a question of play balance and not wpns accuracy…. obviously marines do not see this $20K piece of equipment:<)

    Rol 

  • liquid

    omg crying about that nooberific IR scope, fck yeah just throw it out of the game I dont’t care, was the lamest thing in bf3 anyway. Bout time they nerfed it. Like Rol says it’s pure for cqb,  now it is finaly used like how its meant to be used. No more over 200m’s bs kills with that scope.

    • Rolande_D

      Calling bullshit here. Try it on Op. Metro.

  • Anonymous

    I noticed that the fog effect only happens in operation metro and damavand peak. I use it as normal in the other maps. So I just don’t use it in those 2 maps. :)

    • Rolande_D

      Yes, Mr. Anonymous, but the change makes no sense whatsoever. There’s no linearity, smarter veteran players can see this. They can see that it was just specifically nerfed for those maps, but let me say that that’s now how you properly patch a weapon’s properties. I.e.; by making it entirely useless in two maps. Just don’t let the players equip it in those levels then, or as I continue to suggest, give it an option to just turn the damn thing off and use it as a blank sight.

  • cry babies

    I love all of the comments of the people who like what dice did to the scope, it is so stupid to say that you like this change because how would you all feel if dice scrued around with something you really liked in the game and made it almost usless you use why cant people be grown ups and just let people vent.

  • cry babies

    I love all of the comments of the people who like what dice did to the scope, it is so stupid to say that you like this change because how would you all feel if dice scrued around with something you really liked in the game and made it almost usless you use why cant people be grown ups and just let people vent.

  • N Stefaniak

    Not whinging or anything.. But I guess its time for me to get myself a new game!

    • Rolande_D

      You’re picking up wings? I could use some spicy buffalo.

  • ksthered

    The best solution would be limit the range of which the IRNV can highight enemies, not blind you when you look through it, whats the point of a 1X scope if not for fast target acquisition? If anything this scope makes it so you can only camp in a corner looking through it the entire time so you can see a clear image, you cant be going down a corridor see an enemy and put a bead on him, because you have to wait 2 seconds before the scope will decide to not be an idiot and see things…half the time, the other half it just refuses to work at all.

    • Nadinesmith83

      The irnv needed toning down a little Fact! Ruins the game a little certainly for snipers. However Dice have completely ruined the irnv which was great for assault rifles on big maps giving u that 1x slight zoom which was great but still good at close to midrange. Dice you should toned it down a little and not made a great 1x zoom and feature completely useless! Me and my friends were all cod players and converted because BF3 is amazing game. However the patch has ruined our favourite game totally now and we sadly shall all be trading in BF3 for MW3 and never will buy a battlefield dice game again because u totally ruined something which we used on quite a few maps and mite do silly things like this in the future! Should of toned the irnv down not ruined it! Cod still rules then. Shame

    • Nadinesmith83

      BF3 is a mans game proper warfare amazing! But we all like different play styles and truth is with this patch it has completly ruined the irnv it has also ruined the game for thousands of assault rifle players. The irnv 1x needed toning down a little as it to easy to spot snipers for example but not ruin it so u can not see anything for few seconds when scoping. The patch should of changed the irnv scope so that long distance snipers are less visible but not blind u for several second every time u scope enemies.

  • Jjr903

    i hate the way the new patch has my inrv lookin i understand toning it down a bit but now all i c is green! if i wanted a crappy scope id go play mw3!

  • Gav

     CHEATING!!! irnv is used for sole purpose of identifying targets whether to spot or kill the enemy,TAKE IT YOUR A SNIPER USER AND HAPPY NOW??as you cant be spotted as easily.If any real armed forces were to be using the new irnv patch im sure we would have plenty of our troops sent back in body bags!!! AS THIS IS NOTHING BUT A HINDERENCE AND NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING A TASK THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR!!!!They use this equip in body locations after earthquakes and other sad acts of god whether day or night the equip is still of major use,PERSONALLY i use the m4 which isnt a powerful weapon but i was satisfied and getting a plus on more than a few occasions NOW i cant even get a plus,i dont have a great 20/20 vision and need glass no matter what game i play(42″tv) and on normal scope i cant see an enemy as clear as a spotted, nose running drips, who just camp and use the sniper rifle!!! SNIPERS SNIPERS SNIPERS battlefield is for you,and im sure that you are the people who have complained…?!!I am now a very not wanting to play bf3 disgruntled person.GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001614934687 Justin Law

    IRNV was fine the way it was, it was an prize to those who use like a specific gun, there was no point in actually toning down the IRNV actually, thats the purpose of the scope….to identify targets, all this has done is given people who love to camp an excuse. It wasn’t over powered, infact many people didn’t even care about it, only people who bitched were the newf@gs who’re new and don’t know how to use it. Battlefield 3 > COD why? battlefield 3 has requires skill, people using the IRNV can spot these newf@gs running across the map like morons and get shot down because of THEIR mistake then complain the only reason they were spotted was because of a scope that identified them a little better than a red dot?……Ya okay buddy, I’ll order you up some french cries with your wahburger. Overall it isn’t “haxxed” as many of you like to put it, EVERYBODY CAN USE IT, GET 100 KILLS WITH ANY GUN AND YOU HAVE IT, BY THAT POINT IN TIME YOU’LL BE SO ACUSTOMED TO USING WHATEVER YOU WERE BEFORE, YOU WONT EVEN GIVE A F***” so quit bitching and go back to COD

  • Willyloomis

    The patch ruined the game imo. I will no longer be playing this game. Looks like I will be picking up MW3 after all

    • Rolande_D

      Glad to have you out of our servers.

  • M1A1TankerLT

    Yep, the IR scope is worthless.  Can’t use it even in the dark in a tunnel.  Brutal.

  • tim

    trading bf3 in for mw3, they ruined what was at once my favorite game…. 

    • Rolande_D

      Glad to have you out of our servers.

      • tim

        what a lame reply ” glade to have you out of our servers” u most be one of those bitch’s crying about the game in the first place….

  • Anonymous

    The IRNV scope was WAY OP. Too many of you “complainers” were just camping out with the thing in buildings.

    I do agree that they perhaps went TOO far, but why not venture away from the scope. Try some other guns/scopes.

    You liked it because it was OP. Thats the honest truth. Get over it.

    EDIT:

    I’d like to add.

    DICE has already has a “spot” mechanic in the game. Why not try and use it once in a while, then you won’t need an IRNV scope to get your kills. You get points for doing it too…

    • Rolande_D

      Right and wrong. The thing should still function when it functions. Let’s face it, it’s on our discs, it’s not content that can be removed, why leave it non-functioning? Then it becomes a waste of space instead of a viable option. As it is becoming clear, it works better in some maps / locations, and not at all in others. At least tell players when it’s functional.

      I get your point, I only used it excessively on the KH2002 and yes, I did think there was something OP about it, but there were other, better ways to go about nerfing it. For one thing, if they kept it’s function the same but only at closer ranges, and only in dark lighting, that would be perfectly okay, but that’s not how it works. They added some obscure fogging effect, (especially in the relatively dark map, operation metro), and simply made the heat function a non-observable part of it.

      If players are given a clear and defined when-and-where layout so they’d no where to use it, I have one more suggestion which is to be able to turn the whole function off, reduce zoom and reduce sway, effectively making it a dot sight, with the flashlight button. This way, in it’s current state, if you use it in other levels or as your staple scope, you could at LEAST make it a basic dot sight simply by using your flashlight button.

  • Gotts

    This Scope is absolutely useless now. Everyone can use it so in my opinion its not OP. This is the only scope I enjoyed playing with. This game is done for me. I quit playing a few days after this stupid patch came out. Every company sometimes managed to come out with a fun game. Then some people gotta cry for weeks until the company makes some stupid change like this and ruins the game for a lot of other people. I’m done with EA.

  • tom

    it was only scope I liked playing, now i playing cod until they bring it back!

  • Psychoticspell

    I will not play bf3 until they fix this scope. I built up my gameplay based on hk416+irnv and now my gameplay is ruined.. thanks DICE!!

  • Andrave

    All the shots in that youtube video show the user attempting to fire the scope over a light source (the tactical flashlight, the fire, etc).  If you use night vision equipment in real life, it will get blurry like this if you aim it at a light source.  Its realistic.  The video doesn’t prove anything.  I’m glad to see ea making changes to keep the game more fair.  If you buy the game and get online and get killed 20 times with no kills your first few games because of vets playing with OP unlocks, then you will quit, return the game, and tell your friends not to buy it, and the servers will atrophy and die.  There should be perks for those that earn them and even without this scope there are plenty (automatic shotgun, anyone?) still out there to earn.  

    • Anton 1992

      well the funny thing is this is a IR scope using heat sensors to the IR should be messed but the heat camera should remain unaffected so it gets messed up.I like using the IR for the dark maps and metro when you get pushed down into the tunnels heat sensors should be working fine

  • Carsus89

    They should find a comprehensible balance that everybody can understand, i.e. too much light: image doesn’t show that good, low light environment: should work fine like previously, since now you never know when to use it. Te video is a good example in the metro there is not a strong light source and it should work better.

    • Rolande_D

      Yes, Exactly! There needs to be a defined key like this that users can figure out.

  • telecleez

    gotta say the IRNV is totally useless to use u cant even see 3ft infront of u with the dang thing 

  • Mike Smith

    I liked the IRNV scope in Night Shift and thought I would give it a go in MP mode. WTF? 1x Optics that actually zoom out as compared with iron sights! Could of at least been a 2x or 3.4x scope.

    “But looking at it with perspective, I’m getting sick of this whole reoccurin process of nerfing the crap out of this game. guns is getting so damn old in my opinion. All because of thoes damn 10 year old that go onto the forums on Battlelog and throw a tantrum over how the ____ is so overpowered and, and thus continue their act of melodrama as if DICE and EA had just robbed their house. ”

    I quite agree, no-one likes getting killed by cheesy weapon play (flechettes, slugs and so on), but the only way to improve is to play against better opponents and different play styles/tactics. Knowing your limitations and avoid running head-long into bad situations will help keep you alive and give you better situational awareness.

    One thing about the sniper rifles that really p1ss3s me off is the close range damage, have had plenty of close up no-scope hit-markers on folks chests with powerful rifles and they basically keep running and then shotgun or slug me. Totally out of balance, the kick from being hit with such a projectile would, at the very least, knock a player off their feet. There just seems to be no stopping power in most rifles.

  • Guest

    look tony People are just giving there opinions, you don’t have to go and insult them in any way mate. people like you are just pissed because of getting waxed by better players using the IRNV scope,enough said…..