Skyrim vs. Dark Souls: Multiplayer, DLC, dragons and more

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One game that has been grabbing so much attention of late is The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and we saw evidence of that at the recent Eurogamer event at Earls Court, London. However, do not think for one moment that it is the best RPG to come out at this late part of the year, some of you may have forgotten about Dark Souls. Depending who you ask, the latter game has the former beat in most areas, such as Multiplayer and DLC, but then again, Skyrim does have dragons now.

You may wonder why we would mention multiplayer, when Skyrim does not even have that feature, and there lies the problem, which to us could be its Achilles heel. IGN does find this a little strange, as fans of the franchise have been asking for said feature for some time now – now that’s one way to upset those who will make your game successful or not.

Bethesda has not let all fans requests go unnoticed though, as they have now given us dragons, which we did mention above – not sure if that is enough to keep the wolf from the door. Both games do have their strengths, and Multiplayer is Dark Souls. Fans hope that Skyrim will be able to redeem itself when it comes to downloadable content; we suggest that you do not hold your breath.

The reason why is due to the fact that Skyrim fans will have to wait a few months for the final parts of the game, in way of DLC. However, Dark Souls will already have the completion of the game on release, which means that you will not have to part with any more money in order to reach the games conclusion.

Do not think that the dragons will help redeem Skyrim, as Dark Souls has them as well. We do not want to appear one-sided, but it seems that Namco Bandai Games has Bethesda covered in almost every aspect of the RPG shootout.

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  • D0pplganger

    You cannot compare these two games. They are not even the same kind of game…. People will buy both games for entirely different reasons. Skyrim is sand boxed for example… Dark Souls is more likely to be like Demon Souls in the sense of different stages…. It is pointless to debate which will be better, especially considering that the only thing these games have in common is dragons

  • D0pplganger

    You cannot compare these two games. They are not even the same kind of game…. People will buy both games for entirely different reasons. Skyrim is sand boxed for example… Dark Souls is more likely to be like Demon Souls in the sense of different stages…. It is pointless to debate which will be better, especially considering that the only thing these games have in common is dragons

  • Dovahkiin

    WTF, you don’t have to wait for DLC to complete the game.
    The author has obviously never played an elder scrolls game.
    DLC in these games just add more to an already content rich game world.
    In the case of the Shivering Isles expansion in Oblivion, you get an extra game world
    that has it’s own main quest and is full of extra content.
    These sites (IGN) need to do more research and stop twisting the facts, because
    there is no way Dark Souls can compete with Skyrim in terms of content.

    anywhore

    Skyrim=GOTY

  • Dovahkiin

    WTF, you don’t have to wait for DLC to complete the game.
    The author has obviously never played an elder scrolls game.
    DLC in these games just add more to an already content rich game world.
    In the case of the Shivering Isles expansion in Oblivion, you get an extra game world
    that has it’s own main quest and is full of extra content.
    These sites (IGN) need to do more research and stop twisting the facts, because
    there is no way Dark Souls can compete with Skyrim in terms of content.

    anywhore

    Skyrim=GOTY

  • Anonymous

    Dear Peter Chubb
    Skyrim is totally awesome and will by far exceed Dark souls because or said awesomeness.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Peter Chubb
    Skyrim is totally awesome and will by far exceed Dark souls because or said awesomeness.

  • Erik

    @D0pplganger
    You certainly can compare these games. They are both RPG’s, they are both coming out soon, and they are both a sword/shield/whatever type fantasy settings with dragons and magic. One is just darker than the other. Some say games from the fps and tps genre’s (not saying these games are shooters) can’t be compared because the camera angle is different. That’s just silly, and in the case for these games not even the case now that both can be played in third person. You are also wrong about Dark Souls possibly just being set in stages like Demons Souls. It’s a wide open map now similar to TES series. It’s not apples and oranges, it’s just people not wanting to compare because they are banking on their pre-chosen game to be the “best” so they don’t feel like they wasted their money.
    The main difference is in the mood that each game wants to create for the player. TES games have always strived to be like a simulation where you take your time doing whatever it is you want to do, and tell the player “take your time, no rush”. It’s a game about freedom. Dark Souls/Demons Souls are made to  challenge the player and fill them with dread every time they pick up the controller, it unites and pit’s the community in such a unique way to where it feels like it’s a single and multi-player game at the same time. It’s meant to give the player the greatest sense of accomplishment upon succeeding, and a big sigh of relief. This doesn’t make them incomparable at all. If these two games can’t be compared, then no two games can unless they are sequels.

  • Erik

    @D0pplganger
    You certainly can compare these games. They are both RPG’s, they are both coming out soon, and they are both a sword/shield/whatever type fantasy settings with dragons and magic. One is just darker than the other. Some say games from the fps and tps genre’s (not saying these games are shooters) can’t be compared because the camera angle is different. That’s just silly, and in the case for these games not even the case now that both can be played in third person. You are also wrong about Dark Souls possibly just being set in stages like Demons Souls. It’s a wide open map now similar to TES series. It’s not apples and oranges, it’s just people not wanting to compare because they are banking on their pre-chosen game to be the “best” so they don’t feel like they wasted their money.
    The main difference is in the mood that each game wants to create for the player. TES games have always strived to be like a simulation where you take your time doing whatever it is you want to do, and tell the player “take your time, no rush”. It’s a game about freedom. Dark Souls/Demons Souls are made to  challenge the player and fill them with dread every time they pick up the controller, it unites and pit’s the community in such a unique way to where it feels like it’s a single and multi-player game at the same time. It’s meant to give the player the greatest sense of accomplishment upon succeeding, and a big sigh of relief. This doesn’t make them incomparable at all. If these two games can’t be compared, then no two games can unless they are sequels.

    • Dovahkiin

      It’s not just the camera angle; the gameplay is dramatically different between third an first person.
      Plus the primary camera angle for skyrim is first person.

    • Dovahkiin

      It’s not just the camera angle; the gameplay is dramatically different between third an first person.
      Plus the primary camera angle for skyrim is first person.

  • Jetblu

    These games definitely can’t be compared because there is no comparison elder scrolls games are full of detail from being able to pick flowers to bar fights to catching fish to owning homes….DS should be compared to fable if anything….sure it’s a”open” world setting but DS isn’t a real open world game u can’t do anything in the world except fight there’s no stealth skills there’s no dialog skills u can’t go into any building…on the issue of DLC elder scrolls DLC have always come way after the game and you’ve never needed it, ES games have always been complete 200+ hours. It’s no comparison it’s like comparing NBA 2k to NBA jam….please people knock it off

  • Jetblu

    These games definitely can’t be compared because there is no comparison elder scrolls games are full of detail from being able to pick flowers to bar fights to catching fish to owning homes….DS should be compared to fable if anything….sure it’s a”open” world setting but DS isn’t a real open world game u can’t do anything in the world except fight there’s no stealth skills there’s no dialog skills u can’t go into any building…on the issue of DLC elder scrolls DLC have always come way after the game and you’ve never needed it, ES games have always been complete 200+ hours. It’s no comparison it’s like comparing NBA 2k to NBA jam….please people knock it off

  • Fishtoast

    So this entire thing sounded a bit bias and I just want to clear one thing up. You don’t need the Skyrim DLC to complete the game. The main story is already all there. The DLC just add more content the game game, like new quests, new worlds, etc. Todd Howard has also said that all Skyrim DLC will be mini expansions, nothing small like a new weapon or two, most of the DLC will be bigger than Knights of The Nine but smaller than the shivering isles.

  • Fishtoast

    So this entire thing sounded a bit bias and I just want to clear one thing up. You don’t need the Skyrim DLC to complete the game. The main story is already all there. The DLC just add more content the game game, like new quests, new worlds, etc. Todd Howard has also said that all Skyrim DLC will be mini expansions, nothing small like a new weapon or two, most of the DLC will be bigger than Knights of The Nine but smaller than the shivering isles.

  • trevor

     I really love how they say a DLC is the FINAL part of game when its not. I mean come on its gonna be a great game and have many hours of challenging quests and fun. The DLC isn’t going to redeem the game it’s just going to add on to its awesomeness. As for Dark souls ill bet its going to be as good to. So stop trolling on each other and just have fun when your games come out.

  • trevor

     I really love how they say a DLC is the FINAL part of game when its not. I mean come on its gonna be a great game and have many hours of challenging quests and fun. The DLC isn’t going to redeem the game it’s just going to add on to its awesomeness. As for Dark souls ill bet its going to be as good to. So stop trolling on each other and just have fun when your games come out.

  • FrizzleFry

    If you don’t want to come across one-sided then don’t write a one-sided article!
    I love Demon’s Souls and I’m sure I’ll love Dark Souls, but you cannot judge either Dark Souls or Skyrim until they come out. I don’t understand how you can say that Dark Souls has Skyrim beat in every way as an RPG when Dark Souls is lacking in so many areas. Dark Souls will have barely any NPC interaction which means it will lack in story drive, it has little to no crafting, mining, working or economic system.
    Plus I’m sure the gameplay, just like Demon’s Souls, will be very linear as there are no real consequences for your actions, you just go through the motions, killing whatever you see to get through a quest.
    And the leveling system in Dark Souls will be ridiculously boring compared to Skyrim…just saying.

    Like I said wait until the games comes out and reserve your bashing.
    I KNOW they will both be great, but Skyrim will definitely have better RPG elements.

  • PoopyBanana

    Very few elder scrolls fans want MP, I for one don’t and I know others too. The Elder Scrolls has always been and will always be a single player game, thats how I like it. If the game becomes MP then there are a lot of features that will be restricted and less time will be spent on developing a great SP game.

  • What_the_hell_was_that!??!

    Lets get a few things straight. For one, a large majority of TES fans are actually in favor of KEEPING single player, and those who advocate for multiplayer will buy and enjoy this TES game too. After all, if they truly are fans, they will have enjoyed Oblivion and Morrowind, two very successful and immersive single-player games.

    For another, it’s subjective how you view the DLC situation. On one hand, Skyrim is an incomplete game that has upcoming DLC to complete it. On the other hand, Skyrim is a complete game which will have DLC as a bonus. But to be honest, Skyrim is an entirely self-contained, immersive game-world. There will be no ‘incomplete’ feel to it. The view you present in the article is supportable, but decidedly unsupported.

    Also, I’m sure you were ‘heavily inspired’ by the (very) successfully belligerent article on IGN. You even seem to have mentioned it in your article. For that reason, your article may be even more pathetic than IGN’s fanboy drivel, since all you did was copy the formula.

    Look, I’m a fan of TES, it’s obvious. But my point is that, even from a journalistic point of view, this article is shameless. 

  • Irrelevant Article

    Nice article.  I often posit which game will be better than another based on two details out of the possible hundreds of differences they might have. *end sarcasm*

    Wait for these games to be released.  Wait for ALL of the fans of these two games to decide.

    • Bigredhusker

      ,children I know all of you think you have 15 inch cocks on the interwebs but lets be honest you don’t. The truth is both games are going to be awesome so get both of them if you are fans of rpgs. I’m getting ds for combat, loot, making weapons n armor and an overall challenge. Plus invading other players worlds is just to damn fun. plus heard from numerous sources it is bigger than skyrim

      I’m getting skyrim for story, exploration, and its impressive open world and thw things you can do in it.

      If I could choose only one, id have to go with ds, as much as it would pain me as a fan of the elder scrolls. Yes skyrim added dragons but ds dragons will kick your ass. I mean its already confirmed u can beat skyrim dragons at lvl 1. Plus I prfer assining skill points over the scrolls way.

  • Daniel Fletcher

    There must be some crazy thing going on where people want to be hated.  

    • Troll Slayer

      I’m so confused, where has it been reported that Skyrim isn’t going to be released in full?

      Care to share your source? The DLC is going to be EXTRA content not the conclusion of the main story. Poor show guys.

      ..wow.

  • Daniel Fletcher

    Also, Peter Chubb’s new nickname is “Chubby”.

    Hey look, I’m spouting off stuff that makes more sense than this article.

  • Bad writing

    This article is actually kinda awful. Skyrim and Dark souls should not be compared. They are different games, and quite frankly, I doubt Dark Souls will better Skyrim.

    True fans of the elder scrolls series have not been asking for multiplayer, in fact, they hope that the TES games never adopt multiplayer for many reasons. One only has to view the Bethesda forums to see this. Furthermore, the use of DLC in the TES universe seems not to be understood by this article. The completed game is shipped in a sense, the main quest, and the majority of faction quests and so forth are in their completed states. DLC however, provides further activities for the player, and extends gameplay. The lack of DLC provided by dark souls may in fact, be to its detriment. 

    TES is a well established RPG series that has provided people with hundreds of hours of gameplay, it provides a rich background of its people, places and has a wealthy lore backdrop. Skyrim is not going to be crushed by some new RPG just because it doesn’t have multiplayer   

    • Degeegin

      Yea I have played Demons Souls, that game is addicting, however, it gets old doing the same thing over and over and dying and dying and restarting and restarting. Skyrim will have a strong plot to it and many more awesome things. I love em both, but I would choose Skyrim if it came to the two of them.

    • Anonymous

      I agree except that I find Demon’s Souls to be more to my liking than the Elders Scrolls games. Demon’s Souls is an action RPG with heavy RPG elements and Skyrim is a traditional RPG with light action elements and heavy exploration elements. 

      Oblivion had a ton of content but the combat sucked and I just don’t have the time or energy to get myself immersed into a game like Oblivion. Quite frankly, I don’t care about the story elements or getting to know the NPCs and those were major appeals of the game. (also, if we are being honest, the world of the Elders Scroll is nothing special. It is typical high fantasy stuff)

      Demon’s Souls was all about the action and gameplay. It immersed you in the world without requiring to interact with a dozen NPCs. It was a straight up old school videogame and didn’t pretend to be anything but. I loved that about it.

      My favorite part about Oblivion was the open ended environment and random dungeon exploration. It felt very Legend of Zelda-ish (the original). Dark Souls will have that exploration element plus Demon’s Souls superior combat mechanics so it is a best of both worlds.

  • Thepricewepay777

    stupid article, poorly written and seems like its coming from someone who’s never played a elder scrolls game. 

  • Alex B

    The whole article is flawed, but I want to focus on a few completely erroneous things Chubb said.

    “The reason why is due to the fact that Skyrim fans will have to wait a few months for the final parts of the game, in way of DLC.”

    Yes, Bethesda are clearly going to release a game UNFINISHED and go ‘ah, it’s fine, no one’s going to even get to the end of the game for hundreds of hours, let’s take our time on making the end of the game, guys!”

    DLC for Elder Scrolls (AND MOST GAMES) involves ADDING content, yes, but not content that is necessary for the completion of the game.
    Did they have to add in half the map of Cyrodiil for Oblivion? No.
    Did they have to add in the sea around Vardenfell? No.
    You are conjuring up facts to suit your (already very inaccurate) argument.

    On the other hand, you are able to compare any two games. You could compare Call of Duty with Elder Scrolls. Of course you can! But not on little details like ‘Which has more RPG elements?’ That’s never going to work. You can compare them on how fun each game is, etc. Some people out there will (god save us all) prefer MW3 to Skyrim, and that’s their choice (and loss). But you can compare them if you like. You definitely can compare Dark Souls and Skyrim, but they are very very different types of RPG and will attract different types of gamers.

    Thirdly,

    “Skyrim does not even have that feature, and there lies the problem, which to us could be its Achilles heel. IGN does find this a little strange, as fans of the franchise have been asking for said feature for some time now.”
    Achilles heel? Seriously? Multiplayer would be the achilles heel IF it was actually in the game. It should never be in Elder Scrolls, and the majority of fans realise this. Most people who think multiplayer would be a great idea are young teens, and the rest are older fans who simply haven’t thought about the repurcussions if they did implement it. It would never work. IGN things it’s strange because IGN are a failing site these days. Their reviewers are poor and opinions are poorly thought out.

    I truly hope that this article was satirical, for if not, I weep for humanity.

    • Alex B

      thinks*
      IGN is*

  • Degeegin

    This article is retarded.

    • Guestaloqwokwms

      Like you?

      • Anonymous

        You mad?  You work for these dudes?

  • MVH

    The IGN article is an advertisement for Dark Souls, which is due out in a few days.  I don’t think the timing is coincidental, or the amount of comments/hits that article has gotten.

    • Chicha

      SO true

      • http://twitter.com/swizardrules SWI Sindram

        Or they honestly like the game more, and want to promote it, seeing as how Dark Souls could use the advertisement a heck load more than Skyrim.

  • redraven2031

    I seriously do not understand why people are comparing these two games, being jealous of a game is fine, continue being that way. But the Elder Scrolls series will always continue having great games. 

    • Guestaloqwokwms

      Like Battlespire and Redgaurd were great? LOL, those games sucked and even professional reviews bashed them. TES gained famed with Morrowind and lost fame when Dragon Age: Origins released and showed Bethesda how to create a story with great characters.

      • Anonymous

        Considering that DA came out four years later and isn’t open-world, who cares? You sure got a hankering for bashing the TES series, don’t ya?

  • Anonymous

    What the heck is this article talking about? Skyrim will be complete upon release, and you don’t need DLC to finish it. Seriously, this the third article I’ve read bashing Skyrim in favor of Dark Souls.

    And DS has Skyrim covered in ever aspect? Really? Does the game have 5 large cities and 15 settlements? Does the world have a thriving economy? Can you make your on weapons/armor?  Can you enchant items? Can you buy property and form relationships? Are there 18 skill sets? Are there varied and detailed quests? Are there 10 diverse races?

    Serious question: Did Namco Bandi pay you guys off? If so, how much?

    • Chica

      IGN got paid off too

      • Adasds

        Everyone’s been paid off. It’s a conspiracy!

        • Anonymous

          Indeed it is! GASP!

    • Xan

      They have paid off a few companies. The two should not even be compared. I want Skyrim because I want an immersing living world with enhanced believable AI. I enjoy Mass Effect and Dragon Age, both highly rated games, but I am looking for a living world and not a quest-based one.
      As for multiplayer, no thanks. Co-op maybe with a friend, but not full multiplayer. The whole point of Skyrim is the tech they used to bring a world to life; and you can’t do that in an online game.

      We should check the accounts and records of Namco Bandai and IGN. I could be wrong, but does anyone else sense another Drivergate?

  • Theoracle

     CASUAL SCROLLS: SKYRIMJOB. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR DRAGONS WHAT IS IT ’95?

  • http://twitter.com/swizardrules SWI Sindram

    Haha honestly, all you guys can’t be more funny. In my opinion, Dark Souls is a better game, but Skyrim will sell better, no matter how many gaming sites report ‘negative’ on it. It really makes me laugh how all the skyrim fan boys think Namco Bandai games actually payed these sites! Please, do keep raging, pure fun.

    • Anonymous

      Haha honestly, all you guys can’t be more funny. Dark Souls is a better game, despite me not likely having played either title. It really makes me laugh how a dark soul fan boy can label one game better, yet rag on people who do the exact same thing with skyrim and not understand the sarcasm about Namco Bandai taking money! Please, do keep saying dark souls is better, pure fun.

      • Guestaloqwokwms

        If we compare Demon’s Souls to Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion, Demon’s Souls wins. Since Dark Souls is Demon’s Souls but with more content, a bigger world and more mechanics, we know it will beat Skyrim. What does have TES have going for it? A open world? Dark Souls has a open world and so does Dragon’s Dogma and Kingdoms of Amalur which release early next year. Now that TES isn’t the only open world RPG, it has nothing to stand upon because the majority agree that TES combat sucks and if you expect the dialogue found in Bioware games like Dragon Age: Origins or Baldur’s Gate, then you are sadly kidding yourself. 

        Yes, Demon’s Souls didn’t contain great in-depth dialogue with NPC’s but there was much about them that you could learn which made them better than any character in a TES game. The only good character in TES was Martin Septim because Sean Bean voiced him. All the other characters (Dwermer character from Morrowind, Bandit from Daggerfall) are all forgettable in their names because they lacked depth.

        • Anonymous

          Demon Souls wins? Based on whose criteria, yours? Your explanation, like many, is completely subjective and comes down to personal preference. You “know” it will beat Skyrim (like anyone really cares), despite the fact that it lacks many of the mechanics of Skyrim, and is viewed as being purely an action RPG.

          Tell me, does your wondrous “Demon Souls” allow you to craft weapons/armor? Does it have over 20 cities/settlements? Can one be a thief, and break into peoples homes? Can you buy property? Can you disrupt a town’s economy? Is there a well constructed narrative? If your answer is no, then how can you proclaim that it “wins.” Makes no sense.

          You even contradict yourself by proclaiming that TES’ story elements (never mind that your remember things that even I don’t) are lacking, yet have no qualms dismissing Demon Soul’s trite story telling.

  • Adasds

    LMAO at the Scrolls fans talking about how awesome it is to have dragons in Skyrim. Dragon Quest has had dragons in it from Day 1, so has just about every other RPG.

    • Anonymous

      Same could be said about DS fans getting excited over it being open-world. Elder Scrolls has been open world since 1994; and trust, neither of these games holds a candle to Daggerfall in terms of size.

      • Guestaloqwokwms

        Actually, Dark Souls is bigger than Skyrim. Google “Dark Souls, bigger than Skyrim” and it’s been reported by people who have played the games that Dark Souls is bigger.

        • Anonymous

          I said “Daggerfall” is bigger than both. Read again.

  • Friend

    Oblivion was a huge step down from Morrowind. I’m hoping Skyrim is a big improvement.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Rusk/1245545427 Zachary Rusk

    lmao everybody jumpin on ds nuts. the combat is good but everything else is garbo. lol and it being “hard” its all mesmerizing what spawns where. its fuckin 3d super mario brothers and the not being able to pause thing….really?….really? the standard for a game being hard needs to be raised.

    • Guestaloqwokwms

      Dark Souls doesn’t just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim’s generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don’t fight certain enemies (because they’re on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.

      Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda’s mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.

      • Anonymous

        What are you talking about? How is that any different than Skyrim? You just told me Dark Souls doesn’t even focus so much on story telling!

        BTW, have you actually played Skyrim, since you seem to know a lot about its “failed” game play?

      • Wolfwing0100

        Just to correct you….the world in Skyrim has different architecture and feel in each area. Each part of Skyrim has a different Popular Race in Each town/city. One place can be completely covered in Snow, one place can be covered in Sand, and another could be completely high in the mountain ranges. Each town has a different sense of Culture to it. And Skyrim DOES have a similiar system but is a bit more complex. There is a thing in Skyrim called a “manager” that basically tracks down what you do. If you work a lot people will recognize you as a hard worker and talk about you. They will even give you some jobs if they think your reliable enough. Another example is if you simply go out hunting and kill a few deer or cougars for their fur and meat. Vendors will offer you deals like…if you bring him cougar pelts weekly he will give you 10% off of his meat. And joining a guild in Skyrim does have effects. Like if you join the Storm runners Guild many Other storm runners around Skyrim wont be agressive since your in their faction. And doing tasks for Guilds give you spells, abilities, armor, etc. How do I know this? I played Skyrim in Pax and I’ve gotten my information from the Elder scrolls wiki not USEP. And for the people that say that Wiki’s are all lies every news post has a link to the article from reliable sources like IGN and Gaming magazines.

      • Chax424

        Ps environment in skyrim were created by artists, not random like oblivion. They are different games. The end.

      • TheHighKingOfSkyrim

        Do some bloody research. If you do something heroic in a guild you will get noticed and main story characters may mention it to you. It’s also spelled “faction” because we are not talking about pies… get a dictionary.

    • Guestaloqwokwms

      Further more, even if you did memorize where things spawned, that doesn’t the change the fact that they drink health potions, block, counter, roll and use abilities all like real players. Some can even be found walking about. Skyrim enemies? All the same AI.

      • Anonymous

        LOL! Have you even played Oblivion? The a.i. in Oblivion poisons its weapons, drinks potions, blocks, counters, cast a number of spells, retreats, etc; all like a “real” player.

        And what does “walking about” mean?

        BTW, how do you know so much about Skyrim, have you played it?

        • Wolfwing0100

          Just stop it…………We’re talking about Skyrim not effin gay ass Oblivion. I for one have played 30 minutes of Skyrim…and the game really does bring you into its world and its probabily the only game that I couldnt and wouldnt stop playing. Its sort of like a sandbox game but with RPG elements. Dark souls is 100% RPG. Stop comparing both of those games. Its like the stupid Cod VS Battlefield flame war. Cod=Arcade style gameplay /  Battlefield= War simulator. Theyre different. Just because it has RPG elements doesnt mean you should compare both games. Both games are great but some people dont like Dark souls and some people dont like Skyrim. Just stop being Dicks about it and just buy both like I Am. But I’d probabily be playing more of Skyrim though since you can pretty much do anything..but If I want a break of Singleplayer I would go on and play some Dark souls.

        • Anonymous

          WTH are you talking about? The dude I responded to claimed that the TES games don’t have an “good” a.i. He mentioned a bunch of a.i. behavior featured in DS that was already present in Oblivion.

        • Tripwaddell

          How are you gonna say you look forward to Skyrim but demean its predecessor, referring to it as gay ass Oblivion. Basically Skyrim IS Oblivion with souped up graphics, better combat, and a different story The same way Oblivion was to Morrowind and so on.. there’s upgraded elements but the foundation remains the same. It’s Elder Scrolls open world start from scratch save the world RPG foundation. however, I do agree that DS and Skyrim shouldn’tbe compared and if they weren’t coming out so close together, they wouldn’t be. Everything from the battle system to the layouts of the world. Skyrim wants you to experience eve rything the world has to offer, become whatever you want, complete quests and side quest. Dark Souls wants you to be punished for every mistake, fight methodically, struggle until the very end and feel rewarded in every small success. I’m not for either. Fanboys are pointless and fight unwinnable arguments.

      • Guest

        Really?! “Some can even be found walking about”. Haha, you’re an idiot.  Dragon encounters in Skyrim are completely random, and wolves, bandits, etc, are all spawned randomly about the map.  ALL wander.  There’s two mammoths and a giant walking about one of the giant plains, having been given an area to wander instead of a specific path.

        And you say it’s all the same AI? Get a grip, troll. 

  • Antski1r

    skyrim shouldnt get criticised for not having multiplayer. Skyrims a single player game and imo im happy they didnt so they can bring out the best possible single player experience. just my opinion of course

    • TheHighKingOfSkyrim

       Yeah bro you would get tons of mw3 noob ragers online as well.

  • Repede07

    Well, i would actually prefer to play DS then skyrim not because one is better but DS just grabs my attention a little more than skyrim

  • Chax424

    Mate the dlc wont be a continuation of the main story. Do a little research. I’ll will be more like the expansions for Morrowind. New quest lines, not continuing the old one. It’s stuff that will add to a great game, not complete a partially complete one.

    Also, I for one wouldn’t want to play skryim online. It would be less immersive IMO and thats why I play TES games, to get lost in the world.

    This article strikes me as quite bias….

  • MyMattstache

    To all you Dark Soul fanboys, its not an open world game. The only thing open world about it is the levels that have a deeper exploration, and MANY different routes to progressing through those levels.

    Honestly… bigger world than Skyrim? All an illusion. You guys haven’t even played the game, and because of one article talking about Dark Souls being “Bigger” than Skryim (which was also very poorly written and biased) you guys go off saying that Skyrim can’t compare to Dark Souls.

    Now listen, I love Skyrim already. I will buy it, and play the living hell out of it.

    You love Dark Souls unfortunately, but I won’t judge you. Go buy it and do the same thing.

    We both have our opinions, so all of you (including TES fans) shut up and just wait for both our games to release.

  • Dynasty2021

    @3602b049c58011e2c655bb7eb7bdb4d0:disqus 

    You shoot down Dark Souls to people claiming they havent even played it yet, yet praise Skyrim as being better yet you havent played that yet either have you?

    So…in reality, you’re just a Skyrim fanboy.  Exactly the same as Dark Souls fanboys are right now.

    For me, I had more fun and more challenge with Demon’s Souls than with Oblivion, which felt broken everywhere.

    BUT, I will get Skyrim too as a world that big is too hard to pass up.  It represents the biggest value ever for a game.

  • consumer82

    “Dark Souls will eat Skyrim’s face!” Lol, its true, Dark Souls is the superior game here. Bethesda came up short for once, and Skrim fanboys are on the defensive. Big deal, get over it.

    There’s always a younger, smarter, more talented person than you. In this case its that “other” rpg your too scared to play. Time to grow up and play an rpg for grown ups.

    • Xan

      That’s… Clearly trolling. Fail.

    • Anonymous

      So you’re one of the magical men who has played Skyrim before release!? Wow! Tell us what it does wrong, non-fanboy!

  • Michaelfamilia

    why can’t people like both they’re both great games i know i will own both at some point. Also don’t doubt it till you try it for you Dark Souls haters out there.I’ve never played Elder Scrolls before but i know im getting Skyrim.

  • LimeyorYank

    Why the constant comparing of these two games? They are completely different! The only similarity is that they take place in a Fantasy setting. Skyrim is a choice based RPG, with heavy focus on exploration in their free world. Dark Souls is a Dungeon crawler which is about tactical combat and puzzle completion. Fan boys on both sides are completely pathetic. I’m enjoying Dark Souls right now, and plan on buying Skyrim too. Whats the big deal?

  • 14Deadsouls

    All these biased articles are really annoying. They’re not just putting down Skyrim, but Dark souls isn’t getting the justice it deserves as well!!

    DS is looking to be a great game, it reminds me a lot of Monster hunter (and we all know that was fantastic) but with a LOT more content and improvements. Sure it may not be as free to roam as Skyrim, but it’s a pure action dungeon based RPG – It’s for FIGHTING and RAWR as you get pounded again and again by giant friggin dragon tentacle things!! (and it’s more difficult than the DMC games to me). It’s so intense and you’re adrenalin really gets pumping (talking about Demon Souls here) when you’re on that tiny shred of health and there’s no escape! It’s a thrilling action game (that may not offer much more than that but does it need any more?) Oh and if it gets too much alone… there’s always you’re pals to help you shred some monster butt online! It’s mental, and challenging and to me, the top of the RPG action slash and beatdown market.

    Skyrim is looking to be an amazing experience, with such a huge free world to explore! To actually EXPLORE – There isn’t another game that actually makes you want to go places just to LOOK at them, it’s beautiful. The reason Oblivion and Morrowind did great is (well they were awesome but also) there wasn’t a game out there that offered as much on the same levels as they did. Now there’s Dragon age and others that are getting into the ‘Open World’ theme, but TES STILL does it in such a more vibrant and REAL way that really immerses you into the game, Oblivion had a HUGE number of flaws, but I still play it because it had so many things I had wished for in an RPG for years. Now Skyrim has almost EVERYTHING I wish for and I really can’t wait for it at all! It may not have the immense pumping and super combo combat – but what other game can you literally LIVE in, go hunting, trading, get married, gain the respect or fear of the public, assasinate officials, rob peoples houses, save a village, pillage a village make friends with giants, get squashed by mammoths, become a vampire, become a dragon slayer, become a fighting champion, become a genius magic user, become – WHATEVER you want to be (you can even be a coward and run from dragons and the game adapts AI to Treat you like one!) It’s huge and beautiful and to me, the top of the Open world experience.

    Now that’s a friggin review!

    (P.S. I’m going to buy skyrim, but I might leave out Dark Souls – only because I raged and broke things too many times on Demon Souls, people who’ve played will know what I’m talking about, and I’m less of a gamer than I used to be and can’t dedicate all my time to both games – so I just logically chose the one that I found more fun, I still recommend you hardcore gamers to get BOTH though because they’re really gonna be worth it if you can bare the loss of social life AND social skills :P )

  • Jesse_longhair

    You know, it’s sad when an article is opened up just to voice an opinion and it gets blown out of proportion by people who don’t agree with it. I totally agree with alex b on the topic of being able to compare any two things… it can be done, but it’s not a matter of whether or not it CAN be done, it’s about how WELL it can be done. Just so you know, when an opinion gets thrown in, it’s no longer a comparison. Besides, it all boils down to one thing, how the individual prefers their gaming experience to be. If you like being punished around every turn and feeling god-like when you finally make it somewhere new, then DS is the game for you. On the other hand, if you prefer options during your quest and the freedom to do almost anything under the sun, then Skyrim is more your style. It’s not about who’s right or wrong (remember these are all opinions) it’s about playing the game suited for you. Also, the arguments about dragons is rather a moot point anyway, neither of these games was the front runner on implementing them in the gameplay. Hell, has anyone ever heard of Spyro… it was about an effing dragon!!! Legend of Dragoon had them, the Final Fantasy series has been rittled with them, Legend of Mana, Secret of Mana, Breath of Fire… let’s just stop there, I say they both are a day late and a dollar short on the addition of dragons. I’ve been playing games for a long time (probably longer than most of you, hell I’m almost 30), and never have I seen so much BS over who’s favorite game is what… who cares? You say potato, I say potato (ok, not the best example when there’s no way to show enunciation, but you get my drift). When it all boils down to it, we’re all one in the same; whether you like Dark Souls, Skyrim, Modern Warfare, or Tecmo Super Bowl, we are gamers; we all get pumped about playing our favorite game. So, instead of getting your panties in a wad everytime someone doesn’t agree with you, take it as an opportunity to learn about something outside of your comfort zone. Honestly, they are both great games in their own right, one just has to not be pig-headed to see it.

  • Mistamatrix

    How can you have written this and not mentioned Shivering Isles for Oblivion???

  • Mistamatrix

    Huh what happened? I was reading a different article when I commented before… hmm.

  • only once

    One Skyrim does not compair with oblivion… Two Oblivion has way better playability then skyrim because the gameplay on skyrim minus the shouts is limited so much more.
    At least in skyrim you could make your own spells… I for one think skyrim is failure at best for gameplay/
    On the other hand Skyrim definitely blows Oblivion out of the water for graphics and story line.

     NUFF SAID…

  • Only Once

    My bad I mistyped something on previous post, i am new here i do not know repost if possible
    “At least on Skyrim you could make your own spells”…Change Skyrim to Oblivion

    End comment

  • Blarb

    I love both games. Skyrim is fun and cuddly. Dark Souls is fun but not so cuddly.

  • Corey Stokely

    This guy is just a complete idiot.He says that “Skyrim fans have to wait a few months to play the final game”.Erm…what?I bought the game on day one and I got the final game.I think I’ve played Skyrim long enough to know that there’s no part of the game where you walk into an area or start a quest and a message pops up that says “This content is only available in the full game”, nope never happened before.DLC just adds on extra content to the game it doesn’t complete the game, the game is perfectly fine without any DLC.And Dark Souls’ multiplayer isn’t even that great, it basically consist of you repeatedly placing a summon sign down for several hours until someone summons you.You rarely if ever encounter any phantoms in the game because of the peer-to-peer networking rather than dedicated server’s, which is the same reason why it’s so hard to get summoned or find other summons.Also you can tell by the fact that the guy says Dark Souls is Namco’s game that he’s hardly even a real fan.Yes, Namco is the publisher but From Software is the developer so anything awesome about DS should be credited to From, not Namco.You know it seems like to me that you’re just a fanboy, and I don’t get the whole feud between the games, to me they both have their flaws but they both make up for it.Yeah, this seems like troll article to me just designed to anger Skyrim fans.

    • SNIKT!

      Corey, it seems YOU are the one who is stupid.  Look at the date this article was written.  When he was referring to Skryrim fans waiting a couple months to play the final game, he was in fact referring to when the game was to be released.  Kids these days…

  • AngryJew

    The author is a biased dildo.