MW3 – no Last Stand or Second Chance perks in multiplayer

By Posted 18 Aug 2011, 20:59

We have made it no secret that we are not fond of perks such as last stand or second chance in Call of Duty multiplayer, back in April we asked you whether you thought such perks should be scrapped when it comes to Modern Warfare 3, now we have official confirmation regarding this matter.

Robert Bowling aka FourZeroTwo recently used Twitter to answer this question and you can see what he has to say here, it clearly says that in Modern Warfare 3′s multiplayer game modes there will be no second chance or last stand perks. The tweet has been added in its entirety below.

@MarkoM_ I don’t have any time frame for the next footage, but there is absolutely not any Last Stand or Second Chance perks in #MW3 MP.

As you can see the tweet was a response to a question which was asked on the popular microblogging website, a user previously asked Bowling this question “@fourzerotwo when can we expect more footage to come out, and will MP have a “Second Chance” or “Last Stand” perk?”.

It has been a long time since a Call of Duty game has not had one of these perks, both Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2 allowed you to use Last Stand, whilst Treyarch’s World at War and Black Ops allowed you to use Second Chance – we think getting rid of these perks will add realism to the game – how about you?

When we asked our readers whether Last Stand / Second Chance should stay we received a mixed reaction, one of our readers said “get rid of it!!!! when you shoot someone in the face and they fall behind cover and theres nuthin u can do cuz theyr in 2nd chance…..so unrealistic ruins the whole game for me.” and that seemed to be the general feeling, however there are lot of people who wanted such perks to stay, therefore we would love to hear some feedback on this news.

Are you happy to hear that Modern Warfare 3 will not feature Last Stand or Second Chance perks?

  • big_daddy8

    thank the lord.  last stand and second chance are cheap.  people always get ripped on for using these cheap perks

  • Anonymous

    Who cares?  Perks in nearly any form make the entire multiplayer experience unrealistic and unplayable to casual or new users.

  • Anonymous

    I just hated shooting a guy “killing him” switching to shoot the next guy in the face and then whoops that “dead” guy just got one shot off with his pistol and killed you.

  • Anonymous

    I just hated shooting a guy “killing him” switching to shoot the next guy in the face and then whoops that “dead” guy just got one shot off with his pistol and killed you.

  • Anonymous

    I just hated shooting a guy “killing him” switching to shoot the next guy in the face and then whoops that “dead” guy just got one shot off with his pistol and killed you.

  • Anonymous

    I just hated shooting a guy “killing him” switching to shoot the next guy in the face and then whoops that “dead” guy just got one shot off with his pistol and killed you.

  • Yami9302

    They need to change a lot more than just Last Stand to make it anywhere near realistic, and besides I think there are much bigger problems in the game than Last Stand that need fixing. First thing that was kind of touched on in Black Ops, is Quick Scoping, which should not be any kind of option or play style method, that should be fixed, as well as people being able to just full their entire loadout with explosive weaponary. They should also do something about their newly announced stackable killstreaks, that sounds like a horrible idea. The one major thing I’ve found wrong with the Call of Duty games is with every next iteration, they fix problems from the previous game, add some nice new features, but add more problematic features. For example, Call of Duty 4 added Perks, but they were in no way balanced at all, Martyrdom and Juggernaut to name examples. These perks were removed, and most other perks were more balanced in direct sequel Modern Warfare 2, but the ability to pick your own killstreaks and have one such as the Nuke, and the addition of the Heartbeat Sensor, and the riot shield just brought more trouble to the game, such as increasing the number of campers, and more people using just explosives, only this time they have a sheild. Examples of cool features that were added with no problems, were Customization in Black Ops (cosmetic chnages, emblems etc.) and Spec Ops survival mode in Modern Warfare 3. The next Call of Duty should just focus on balance, removing things, fixing things, and a new engine, definetely, for some new animations, effects, and just in general a graphical step up. Also, no more crappy PS3 ports, with demeaning graphics, and excuses for things they did not implement, while caliming it not to be possible, when they are. (The fact that Dual Login was not implemented into the Multiplayer for PS3 ever).

  • Net Cool7

    The problem here is the auto-aim assist when one go down in second chance/last stand. The ‘dead’ player only needs to point the pistol to your direction and it will 100% hit you and down you with only a few shots (even if you are quite far and moving). This is the BS part thus makes a lot of players frustrated.

    • Nickmc32

      Quickscoping speeds up the pace of the game and isn’t cheap your just too slow if you get quickscoped consistently. Yea there are annoying kids that are QS die hards, but it’s better than noob tubes

      • Gaussie4

        Slow has got nothing to do with it. I can put 3-4 rounds into them and then they kill me with thier one hit kill rifle.

        It’s a balance issue, it’s as simple as that, a sniper rifle should not be effective at close range, you would be one of the first ones to complain if shotguns could kill you from the other side of the map.

        You want to kill people at close range? Then use a shotgun, assault rifle or sub machine gun.

      • Gaussie4

        Slow has got nothing to do with it. I can put 3-4 rounds into them and then they kill me with thier one hit kill rifle.

        It’s a balance issue, it’s as simple as that, a sniper rifle should not be effective at close range, you would be one of the first ones to complain if shotguns could kill you from the other side of the map.

        You want to kill people at close range? Then use a shotgun, assault rifle or sub machine gun.

  • Anonymous

    im not a fan of perks or attachments pretending to be perks in any form. Yes battlefield im looking at you too armour attachments that give +5-10% armour increase driving vehicles IS A PERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DRMR25YG3IN2R4P77NULCP2YUA Someone

    You emptied a clip of an AK47 at an enemy and he’s down. Good. But, wait! He’s not dead! And he killed you instead with his smaller calibre pistol with pinpoint accuracy with no impediment from the blurry blood tinted death screen.

    No that’s not realistic. Like a .5o cal HMG or Barret rifle shot simply take 90% of your life and you are still running around looking for a medic kit. So much for all those youtube videos of .50 bullets ripping through concrete blocks, metal sheets, watermelons and ballistic gel behind kevlar.

  • Anonymous

    “add realism”, you say. Buy Battlefield I say.

    No but on a serious note, The Call of Duty games just have way to much “broken” stuff for the example the one hit kill knife lunge and combine that with P2P matching, that’s what makes it unplayable for me. Anyway after hearing that Modern Warfare 3 will bring back quick scoping, that’s more than enough to get me away from the game. So whether or not 2nd chance/last stand (aka giving birth) is in multiplayer, does not affect me, I’ve never used the perk and I never had a problem with it. I shoot you, you go down then I pull out pistol and finish you off, simple.

  • Bees

    But is it actually gone? They say it’s not a PERK, but that’s what Treyarch said about Commando, instead they just built it into the game, so everyone has it (lunge is then extended even more when using the Ballistic Knife). I’ll believe it when I see it.

  • Michaelwpriest

    Thank god!!!!!! Bloody stupid peck! But still would buy- play it there’s always a bad and good in cod, if you can’t hack it don’t play it!!! Still will break all records again anyways

  • http://www.facebook.com/khaver.mobeen Khaver Mobeen

    If im honest, I’m happy that these two perks are removed because most of the time it is sooo annoying I cant describe by how much. You shoot someone sooo much and they fall to last stand, it would create a better atmosphere by a long way. I am most definitely happy that they are removing Commando because it isnt realistic whatsoever and is annoying when you shoot someone sooo much and they knife from a mile away. Thank god Infinity Ward listened to the community and removed, but still cant wait for whats new in MW3!!1

  • HiiT-M4rk3R-WTF

    They should get rid of it! I play SnD so when some one used second chance in cod 4 and MW2 it pissed me off when they killed me and somebody else got the kill, BUT in black ops you can get the kill if somebody else shoots them only problem is the pro version allows them to get revived so that’s pretty annoying especially in SnD if it made it where they couldn’t get revived so that I get the kill that wouldn’t be as bad and we would both win that way. But I would like you to get rid of it, it is realistic but just not realistic enough, like make their vision blurry and their sensitivity low so it’s like their struggling to live whilst bleeding out. Hope this helped :D

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  • 1990 Banks

    The Stealth Clown mister Robert Bowling aka FOURZEROTWO stated there will be no Last stand or Second Chance perks in MW3, but what he failed/forgot/didn’t want to mention is that Last Stand/Second Chance will be a death streak (confirmed).

    which is not as bad as having it as a perk but :( .

  • Gazmeister

    There won’t be realism in the game as long as quickscoping is in.

  • Finzy

    it’s not realistic?  that’s people’s argument, REALLY?  hey people, IT’S a GAME.  getting that last ditch kill from last stand was SUPER fun (which is what games are supposed to be about), and it wasn’t exactly easy.  to all you COD players that are so serious: get over yourself. 

  • Finzy

    it’s not realistic?  that’s people’s argument, REALLY?  hey people, IT’S a GAME.  getting that last ditch kill from last stand was SUPER fun (which is what games are supposed to be about), and it wasn’t exactly easy.  to all you COD players that are so serious: get over yourself. 

  • Mistatrefry

    I only play CoD with friends so not having Second Chance Pro sucks. I’ve gone back to Black Ops