PC owners yawn at Xbox 720/PS4 graphics potential

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This week has seen rumors of next-gen game consoles increase, and the specs point towards some major improvements for both the Xbox 720 and PS4. While they’re just rumors you can be sure that Microsoft and Sony will have some nice surprises for gamers, and with this in mind, some of the rumors look to be spot on.

Earlier today we posted details on a new PS4 concept, which aims to help the environment by being eco-friendly with over half the materials recyclable. Any new product coming on the market today needs to think about the future, and the main topic here is the environment, which means any feature that cares for our planet is important, but will it sell more if its eco-friendly?

The graphics potential of the PS4 and Xbox 720 is exciting to gamers and developers, but some PC gamers just yawn at the thought of future graphics on game consoles. For example, looking at our recent article on next-gen Grand Theft Auto graphics, you will notice that this was a PC mod to improve GTA graphics. PC hardware in 2011 can develop graphics that makes PS3 and Xbox 360 owners drool, and while we don’t know how good the next systems from Sony and Microsoft will be, could it be that PCs with a good graphics setup are already on par with the next-gen game consoles?

Most Final Fantasy fans did not like the idea of FFVXIII being a PS4 release, even though it’s been in development for around 6 years. The PS4 would certainly do the graphics more justice, although most gamers may prefer the game out now rather than later. Without getting into the rising cost of developing of games, the real issue is one of graphics for those that care about such things.

I remember moving to game consoles from a PC, and the main reason was the ease of playing on a console when compared to a PC. Today the graphics and games on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 are amazing, making the PC something I would not want to game on, although this is not the same for everyone. Now that the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been around a while, PCs are starting to widen the gap with consoles in terms of graphics and another system is just a year or two away from an unveiling. So the PC does look amazing with certain mods, like the GTA mod that had one PC owner say “I am currently traveling cant wait to get back to try that mod on my PC“, which leaves PS3 and Xbox 360 owners looking forward to the next Sony or Microsoft system, and PC gamers enjoying their high-end graphics.

Are you a PC gamer and do you yawn at the thought of a PS4 or Xbox 720? Would you start gaming on a high-end PC if the next-gen consoles were too long away?

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  • Anonymous

    I primarily game on my PC, but own a PS3 for Sony exclusives that I played when I was younger.  I always yawn at console performance.  But, there’s really no reason why anyone should expect console hardware to ever…ever…match with a PC.

    The 360/PS3 were screwed from launch, in that regard.  For some…crazy reason, both Microsoft and Sony allowed their machines to be designed with DX9 hybrid cards, when a few months later, nvidia officially launched the DX10 compliant 8800 series GPU’s.  Considering nvidia made the PS3′s hybrid GPU, Sony was most certainly aware of the 8800 series/DX10 in advance.

    PC’s are now onto DX11, and that tech is so costly, atm, there’s no way hardware developers are going to toss those in a new console…I mean, Sony could conceivable do this if they plan on releasing another PS3 type money hog…but, I think they’re going to take a different approach this time with the PS4 (again, just my thoughts).  Yes, the prices on DX11 cards could come down between now and release time, but it’s doubtful they’ll come down that much, given historical data.

    The main question is, why do console owners care?  They should expect the PC to outpace the consoles performance-wise.  If they don’t, then Moore’s Law would be invalid.  More system resources, are always going to translate into better performance.  Always.  But, again, if you enjoy consoles for ease of play, it really shouldn’t matter to people what the competition looks like.

    When I’m playing on my PS3, I’m not always thinking, man, this would look so much better on my PC.  I’m playing a game for entertainment, if I want to get into a debate about what would look better where, I’d be on my PC, talking to people in forums.

    • Anonymous

      i play on my ps3 exclusives and i here stuff like what you say and wonder, “why cant pc play this” thats cause ps3 games are only possible on ps3, ps3 exclusives would look like mario nes on pc

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I own a PS3, there’s really nothing there that wouldn’t look better on PC, sorry.  God of War 3, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2/3, Heavy Rain, MGS4, all brilliant games, no doubt, but still, nothing the PC can’t handle.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I own a PS3, there’s really nothing there that wouldn’t look better on PC, sorry.  God of War 3, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2/3, Heavy Rain, MGS4, all brilliant games, no doubt, but still, nothing the PC can’t handle.

      • Timbo

        The problem yaz is your “here” on your PC of Pentium 1 processor and 16 Megs of RAM saying games on PS3 are better, well… um.. Im sure they are. Now imagine building an actual gaming rig, and get back to me. You would change your mindset, and fast.

      • Timbo

        The problem yaz is your “here” on your PC of Pentium 1 processor and 16 Megs of RAM saying games on PS3 are better, well… um.. Im sure they are. Now imagine building an actual gaming rig, and get back to me. You would change your mindset, and fast.

  • Anonymous

    PC gamers should be begging for new consoles because games are designed for the weakest system. Right now, that’s consoles. Better consoles means actual dx10 and 11 games on pc and being back to the 2-3 year old pc being the minimum spec.

    Unless microsoft and sony are stupid, both new systems will have SM5.0 GPU’s. Consoles need to be as future proof as possible, and supporting the latest tech now is the best way to stay relevant 5-8 years from now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645160183 Syed Azmain

      Yeah, but you can always upgrade your GPU to a better one if you’d like on a PC. In consoles, you can’t really do that.. even if you wanted to.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RBROLNUXNCEIDQR45J77KB52BU Juan

        uh, you can’t do it at all.

  • Anonymous

    PC gamers should be begging for new consoles because games are designed for the weakest system. Right now, that’s consoles. Better consoles means actual dx10 and 11 games on pc and being back to the 2-3 year old pc being the minimum spec.

    Unless microsoft and sony are stupid, both new systems will have SM5.0 GPU’s. Consoles need to be as future proof as possible, and supporting the latest tech now is the best way to stay relevant 5-8 years from now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

    another artice that shows that pc gamers are all just graphics whores and console players play for the gameplay

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, tell that to Arma 2, and Stalker.  Two games that offer more complex gameplay than pretty much all the console games combined.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

        complex does not always equal fun. Mario is a classic because of its simple gameplay. Im not just some console kiddy though, some of my favorite games are PC games. Deus Ex and Baldurs Gate are some of my favs. It just seems like PC gamers nowadays are just graphic whores.

        • Anonymous

          And you would know how?  It seems to me like you simply like to ridicule that which you don’t know.  Where do you think all the tiny games for phones came from?  Thin air?  You think the only games that PC gamers enjoy are the ones that push the boundaries of current technology?  I think you need to pay a bit more attention to that which you claim to enjoy so much, and less to a segment of the populace you know nothing about.

          Graphics whore, please.  Yeah, Killing Floor, Civilization, Beat Hazard, .Shatter, Monday Night Combat, Borderlands…yeah, those are really setting the standard, right?  I’ve played Beat Hazard and Borderlands more this week than anything else.

          You talked complex, I tossed you two complex games that are amazing titles.  But instead of admitting you know little about PC gaming, you simply changed the subject to something else.  Oh yeah, not complex games are fun too.  *rolls eyes*  Way to have a point and stick to it.

        • Michael Haulk

          Just want to point out MNC came out First on 360.

        • Michael Haulk

          Just want to point out MNC came out First on 360.

        • Anonymous

          That’s not really relevant though, is it?  I mean, you could say that…I guess, though I wasn’t arguing that the consoles don’t add something to the market.  I know Sony at the very least, has a program designed to help new developers cover costs and get started on projects, I can only imagine other companies follow the same route, or encourage the same kind of activity in their own way.

          The point of bringing up MNC, was that he was saying less complex games are also fun.  I wasn’t necessarily hammering on console games as a whole.  I mean, I do own a PS3 also.

  • Syed Azmain

    I am a PC gamer, and yeahh i’m not really excited about it

  • Bob Wiley

    PCs never have as good of graphics as consoles until many years later. PC development makes less and therefore gets less money so the budgets are usually totally different unless it’s a multi platform game…or maybe you’re blizzard.

    + PC gaming has tons of overhead and is inefficient compared to consoles that don’t have operating systems and APIs translating their code to hardware calls.

    A console can do more with less hardware power than a PC because it has no overhead. Everthing in the box is about gaming only.

    When 720 comes out it will destory PC games of that time just like XBOX did at launch and just like 360 did at launch. ANd then….like 5-6 years later PCs will catch up and surpass the power…even though letsd be honest…they usually have inferior games and much less to chose from.

    • http://twitter.com/Pillagerguy Connor Powers

      Are you joking?  PCs have as good/ better graphics than consoles always.  The hardware used in consoles is just PC hardware with a different OS.  Consoles can never surpass the PC, because the PC literally cannot be worse than a console.  Worst case scenario is that the PC is exaclty identical.  

      • Anonymous

        …missing the point originally made, Connor. A PC is inefficient in directing its processing power to really make that much of a difference in graphical emulation; certainly not for the few hundred dollar extra on the price tag. Furthermore, developers feel more comfortable with developing games on a constant and reliable set of hardware, not like a PC’s ever changing hardware. Therefore, the games on console are more refined for an extended period of time, producing stable and good graphics. At the launch of every new console, you quite literally don’t see the difference between a PC, as bob says, you only see a difference for a year which is normally the intercessory period between old and next gen console; then its back to the above mentioned.  

      • Timbo

        You took the words outta my mouth. +1 to you.  I still feel that PC is always ahead, just for the sheer fact that most companies getting into the “console” market are using the “intels” “amd””Nvidia” etc etc to produce console specific hardware. When I say console specific, its mainly some kind of alteration to previous graphics chipset that has already been released maybe 12-15 months ago on PC. Now its just convieniently integrated onto there Mobo in the Console and everybody thinks how great there new hardware is.

        There better off just coming up with there own technology, and playing it off as future proof. 360 had there processor core developed internally I believe. Or it was some IBM processor from what I remember either way wasnt the mainstream Intels and AMDs.

    • Timbo

      Bob, I understand ever so slightly your argument, but what you fail to realize is when a company IE, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, release their specs for a console (and you cannot argue this) its literally MONTHS possibly even close to a year, before those consoles hit shelves. Then guess what happens? Thats right, the next best more powerful i20 intel chip or ATi 99837 hits the shelves and has already surpassed the console specs. Therefore you cannot even use the argument that when a console is released its more powerfull than a pc.

      I’ve seen this personally in both releases of the Xbox in 01′ and 360 in 06′.

       2002 changed my whole outlook on the console vs pc, in sheer power numbers. Battlefield 1942 would never run on the original xbox to the capability/potential that it could on the PC. Seeing it on a true gaming rig that a friend of mine had in 2001, and no not my moms walmart super-saver pc that I only used to get on AIM. Thats a sad distortion that most people assume when it comes to PC gaming. They remember the $hitty system they once had or have. With ZERO performace value.

       Same thing in 06′ though i’ll spare details, but comparisons were made on a game released on Xbox 360 and then tested on a newly build O.C. PC. Something that is near impossible or rather pointless to do on consoles with insufficient cooling(with heating issues already at default values). Again squashing your theory on a newly released console vs PC identical hardware theory. I dont even know why I’d even want console specs mimic’d in the first place, to build a PC with?

       Where I slightly agree with you is that Consoles have more of a dedicated gaming OS, but wait…do they really anymore? the 360 and PS3s have far more bells and whistles on the dashboards or home screens, very comparitive to a… PC? The consoles prior to the Dreamcast seem more like better logical choices for dedicated gaming, PS1, N64, Sega 32x, etc, etc. You pop a game in, and.. YOU GUESSED IT! It played the game… Every focus now, for console, is what PC has been able to accomplish many many moons ago, Entertainment value.. I dont even classify the current consoles as dedicated to gaming. Not even close.

       “Dedicated Processing” or not the numbers still dont lie, and I wont lie when the 720/PS4 is released, their will still be a more powerful system that pushes more polygons per second so-to-speak… Therefore outdoing any console at launch.(You should watch the Batman Arkham Asylum PhysX comparison and how much it adds to a game.) How is tessilation going on consoles too btw? :P Yes I know visuals dont make the game.. But its sure nice right?

      I own 360/PS3 as well, so Im not a PC elitest, I just play what performs better. Like [b]Mornelithe[/b] has said that i agree 100% with (other than all the other stuff I 100% agree with) is that I cant play on my 360 or ps3, because of how antiquated the system is at the moment, and well.. has been for many years. Hey though, my 360 controller works awesome hooked up to my PC! 

    • Timbo

      Bob, I understand ever so slightly your argument, but what you fail to realize is when a company IE, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, release their specs for a console (and you cannot argue this) its literally MONTHS possibly even close to a year, before those consoles hit shelves. Then guess what happens? Thats right, the next best more powerful i20 intel chip or ATi 99837 hits the shelves and has already surpassed the console specs. Therefore you cannot even use the argument that when a console is released its more powerfull than a pc.

      I’ve seen this personally in both releases of the Xbox in 01′ and 360 in 06′.

       2002 changed my whole outlook on the console vs pc, in sheer power numbers. Battlefield 1942 would never run on the original xbox to the capability/potential that it could on the PC. Seeing it on a true gaming rig that a friend of mine had in 2001, and no not my moms walmart super-saver pc that I only used to get on AIM. Thats a sad distortion that most people assume when it comes to PC gaming. They remember the $hitty system they once had or have. With ZERO performace value.

       Same thing in 06′ though i’ll spare details, but comparisons were made on a game released on Xbox 360 and then tested on a newly build O.C. PC. Something that is near impossible or rather pointless to do on consoles with insufficient cooling(with heating issues already at default values). Again squashing your theory on a newly released console vs PC identical hardware theory. I dont even know why I’d even want console specs mimic’d in the first place, to build a PC with?

       Where I slightly agree with you is that Consoles have more of a dedicated gaming OS, but wait…do they really anymore? the 360 and PS3s have far more bells and whistles on the dashboards or home screens, very comparitive to a… PC? The consoles prior to the Dreamcast seem more like better logical choices for dedicated gaming, PS1, N64, Sega 32x, etc, etc. You pop a game in, and.. YOU GUESSED IT! It played the game… Every focus now, for console, is what PC has been able to accomplish many many moons ago, Entertainment value.. I dont even classify the current consoles as dedicated to gaming. Not even close.

       “Dedicated Processing” or not the numbers still dont lie, and I wont lie when the 720/PS4 is released, their will still be a more powerful system that pushes more polygons per second so-to-speak… Therefore outdoing any console at launch.(You should watch the Batman Arkham Asylum PhysX comparison and how much it adds to a game.) How is tessilation going on consoles too btw? :P Yes I know visuals dont make the game.. But its sure nice right?

      I own 360/PS3 as well, so Im not a PC elitest, I just play what performs better. Like [b]Mornelithe[/b] has said that i agree 100% with (other than all the other stuff I 100% agree with) is that I cant play on my 360 or ps3, because of how antiquated the system is at the moment, and well.. has been for many years. Hey though, my 360 controller works awesome hooked up to my PC! 

  • http://twitter.com/infectedmite Trey Taylor

    Bob, as far as I remember. Oblivion looked better on my PC when it was released versus my Xbox 360. I still love my 360. But consoles cannot do everything I want to play and saying the PC doesn’t have great titles is a statement for the dumb. I hope the next gen systems are great. Because it will set the bar as another comment stated for all games to be developed for.

  • http://twitter.com/infectedmite Trey Taylor

    Bob, as far as I remember. Oblivion looked better on my PC when it was released versus my Xbox 360. I still love my 360. But consoles cannot do everything I want to play and saying the PC doesn’t have great titles is a statement for the dumb. I hope the next gen systems are great. Because it will set the bar as another comment stated for all games to be developed for.

    • Bob Wiley

      Trey, Oblivion is a good counter example, but it is the exception, not the rule. It did look better on some PCs but it was always a PC game 1st and foremost. The 360 version although very good and later the PS3 version (also good) were ports which makes all the difference. Don’t think so? Try playing Resident Evil or some other lame PC port and compare it with the console version.

      And developers make a huge difference. A great developer (and Bethesda is that) can do great things on any hardware.

      But think at the larger picture. Did the PC have any platformer that would compare graphically w/ Kameo in 2006? How about any fighter comparing to Dead or Alive 3′s graphics in 2002? How about Final Fantasy 13′s graphics, or Metal Gear Solid 4s, or Uncharted 2s?

      The very best PC games look great, (The Witcher is certainly nice looking) but you can count them on 1 hand. I don’t think it’s an exageration to say that there’s probably 16 excellent looking console games for every 1 on PC…and it’s getting worse.

      John Carmack said current PCs have hardware about 10x more powerful that the 360 and I’m going to trust he’s correct. Certainly you don’t think the graphical difference between a PC game and a console game is 10x better though, do you?

      It’s not, at the end of theis generation, a PC game might look 2x better than the consoles. Give that power to the next-gen consoles…and PC’s just won’t compete..at least for a number of years.

      • Anonymous

        Has actually very little to do with looks, which was clearly explained in Carmack’s interview, the DX API is fairly restrictive, and as such doesn’t allow developers full access to the resources the PC has to offer.  That having been said, you cannot have more system resources available on scaling engines, and have lesser performance.  It just doesn’t work that way. All games, could actually look better, but as I said, the DX api is highly restrictive…guess what else uses DX protocols? Yep, consoles.

        Draw distance, lighting, particle effects, sandbox AI interaction….those are also things the PC does way, way better.  It’s not just about graphics, the resources available allow the actual environment you play in to think, and react on it’s own.  In games like Stalker, it’s pretty cool to watch.

        • Bob Wiley

          mornelithe I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about. Care to explain how a particle effect is better on the PC? They work the same way on every platform known to man (billboards). There’s no such thing as a “better” particle.

          The PC requires wrappers because developers can’t code directly for each graphics chip someone might have..which is why PC’s are less efficient.

          The Direct 3D implementation on 360 is nothing like Direct 3D on the PC because on 360 it is specifically targeting the ATI hardware in the 360. Which is why consoles have such an advantage..they don’t have the wrapper overhead.

        • Anonymous

          Bob, my apologies, I was referring to a conversation with the head of AMD Richard Huddy, and technical director of R/D for Crytek, Michael Gluek, actually, not Carmack’s interview, but, they talk about the restrictions and the overhead loss of the DX API, but does specifically state that the PC does perform better, but not 10x better, as would be expected with the amount of horsepower available.

          All these engines scale, only exclusives are completely tailored to the hardware, as a scaling engine is unnecessary.  One of the bigger drawbacks of the PC is having to program the engine to scale to the lowest common denominator (which does include console).

          Particle Effects were a bad example, though, PC’s can still have more of them.  The static hardware on console does help developers, but, on that same token, innovation goes right out the window with static hardware.  Thus, you have no Stalker, or Arma 2, on console.  They couldn’t dream of handling the resource demand.

          Agree, or don’t.  Doesn’t matter, I have a 360, PS3 and high-end gaming rig in the house.  And I’ve run games side by side (1080p on the TV, and 1920×1200 on PC) and done my own comparisons.  10x as good?  Nope.  But without the differences are night and day.

        • Anonymous

          Bob, my apologies, I was referring to a conversation with the head of AMD Richard Huddy, and technical director of R/D for Crytek, Michael Gluek, actually, not Carmack’s interview, but, they talk about the restrictions and the overhead loss of the DX API, but does specifically state that the PC does perform better, but not 10x better, as would be expected with the amount of horsepower available.

          All these engines scale, only exclusives are completely tailored to the hardware, as a scaling engine is unnecessary.  One of the bigger drawbacks of the PC is having to program the engine to scale to the lowest common denominator (which does include console).

          Particle Effects were a bad example, though, PC’s can still have more of them.  The static hardware on console does help developers, but, on that same token, innovation goes right out the window with static hardware.  Thus, you have no Stalker, or Arma 2, on console.  They couldn’t dream of handling the resource demand.

          Agree, or don’t.  Doesn’t matter, I have a 360, PS3 and high-end gaming rig in the house.  And I’ve run games side by side (1080p on the TV, and 1920×1200 on PC) and done my own comparisons.  10x as good?  Nope.  But without the differences are night and day.

      • Anonymous

        Absolutely 100% in agreement with your logic there Bob. The current processing power of PC’s is overkill, and one would find that gaming is of a secondary concern in most PCs compared to what it may truly be used for. Developers produce games for the most influential market; (that being consoles), therefore, PC gamers never get their real moneys worth. The gaming market is delayed by console hardware.. it always will be, purely due to the convenience consoles provide.

  • http://twitter.com/infectedmite Trey Taylor

    Bob, as far as I remember. Oblivion looked better on my PC when it was released versus my Xbox 360. I still love my 360. But consoles cannot do everything I want to play and saying the PC doesn’t have great titles is a statement for the dumb. I hope the next gen systems are great. Because it will set the bar as another comment stated for all games to be developed for.

  • http://profiles.google.com/impersonator280 chase dfgdfgfdg

    Oh I don’t just yawn, I laugh.

  • http://twitter.com/Sed_Said Sedric Walker

    They are too far away.  New PC coming in this week.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Subhasis-Goswami/100000092139068 Subhasis Goswami

    do you know what…there is one thing that Console owners will never have ……FREEDOM.

    • Anonymous

      From?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

        freedom? what?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

        freedom? what?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

        freedom? what?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

        freedom? what?

    • Anonymous

      From?

    • http://twitter.com/ItsMaEc Its Ma Ec

      Well that FREEDOM on PC comes with negative side affects.
      You need to constantly be upgrading your PC to run newer games.(Consoles run every game released for them)
      There are many hardware/software errors. Lets face it most gamers don’t know how to build their own PC let alone handle any errors/problems that come with it.

      Console gaming is the easiest and least expensive for gamers. It also has the BEST games.(you can’t argue with this)

    • http://twitter.com/ItsMaEc Its Ma Ec

      Well that FREEDOM on PC comes with negative side affects.
      You need to constantly be upgrading your PC to run newer games.(Consoles run every game released for them)
      There are many hardware/software errors. Lets face it most gamers don’t know how to build their own PC let alone handle any errors/problems that come with it.

      Console gaming is the easiest and least expensive for gamers. It also has the BEST games.(you can’t argue with this)

      • Anonymous

        And that’s incorrect.  PC’s don’t just stop working when a new game comes out, new technology doesn’t just negate prior GPU’s.  In fact, newer GPU’s take time for developers to wrap their heads around, it’s why driver releases continuously improve the performance of games as time goes on.  Check nvidia and AMD’s driver release documentation sometime, they constantly show performance improvements with each driver release.

        ‘Most Gamers’?  You realize there are more PC’s on the planet than all of the consoles combined, right?  And you realize ‘gamer’ includes the casual and hardcore?  PC Gaming isn’t just restricted to high-end gaming, not sure why people keep thinking this.  It includes everything…hell, PopCap games was just acquired by EA for 3/4′s of a Billion.  They got their start making small $5-$20 PC games.

        Yes, console gaming is easier, for those who think that building a PC takes days and weeks (which it doesn’t.  My first took a few hours, my second was up and running inside of an hour).  But, best games?  That’s subjective, for one.  For another, most of the games on console are also on PC.

        Why try to make faulty assertions about something?  Why can’t you simply just enjoy the games you play, and stop trying to nose in on things you clearly aren’t that familiar with.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645160183 Syed Azmain

          Yeah what mornelithe said you don’t constantly need to upgrade your GPU to the latest ones to play the latest games..

  • Anonymous

    to say the truth as a console gamer day to day i become more addicted to pc games…..BUT when the next consoles release i am 100% sure that pc will be used for all other things than gaming…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675795095 Mike Pursey

    PC’s will always be more powerful than consoles, but will also always have more hassles to deal with in terms of getting hardware and software to mesh. For those with the time, knowledge, and money, PC’s will always offer a better gaming experience. But for the average gamer, who just wants to throw a game disk in and play, (and there’s nothing wrong with that) consoles offer the easiest and most convenient option. I can’t see this dynamic changing any time soon.

  • Anonymous

    Nice response, from someone who clearly had nothing but fanboy bull$hit to add to the conversation.  Yeah, elitist would be rattling off how much more badass my PC is than the consoles, instead, I tossed up small games that require very little performance-wise, but are quite addicting and fun.

    Poor insecure little console fanboy, can’t admit he knew nothing of what he was talking about. 

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMaEc Its Ma Ec

    Of course current high-end PCs will be more powerful than PS4 and 720.
    So unless PS4 and Xbox 720 launch at $599 expect the graphics to be a good improvement from current consoles but the price to about $400-$450. Sony and MS will have to innovate in other areas for the next generation like the controls or connectivity.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMaEc Its Ma Ec

    Of course current high-end PCs will be more powerful than PS4 and 720.
    So unless PS4 and Xbox 720 launch at $599 expect the graphics to be a good improvement from current consoles but the price to about $400-$450. Sony and MS will have to innovate in other areas for the next generation like the controls or connectivity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roberto-Fonseca/100002537463792 Roberto Fonseca

    meh I’m not so sure if future PC gaming will be as expensive as it is now. I have a “runs everything maxed at at least 720p (and I’m including Crysis 2 with directx11 patch)” rig which cost me 400 euros (100 more than a ps3), I paid 100 euros more and got an 8x more powerful gaming rig. I reckon in the near future, gaming pc’s will be so accessible, acessible price and easy to assemble, that consoles will just start falling back until they ultimately have to go seek a different market lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roberto-Fonseca/100002537463792 Roberto Fonseca

    meh I’m not so sure if future PC gaming will be as expensive as it is now. I have a “runs everything maxed at at least 720p (and I’m including Crysis 2 with directx11 patch)” rig which cost me 400 euros (100 more than a ps3), I paid 100 euros more and got an 8x more powerful gaming rig. I reckon in the near future, gaming pc’s will be so accessible, acessible price and easy to assemble, that consoles will just start falling back until they ultimately have to go seek a different market lol

  • http://profiles.google.com/timothypatricklarkin Timothy Larkin

    I can’t believe that people still think that the environment needs saving. This is after years of global cooling and after the exposed fraud committed by the IPCC. There has always been zero evidence of man-made climate change.

    Anyways, there is not a single PC game that looks better than console games at a fundamental level. This is the problem with PC gaming. The PC may be many times more powerful, but developers don’t push PC hardware. Mods are for the hardcore PC gamer. They are essentially tech demos which require expert skill to apply.

    The PC has two huge problems: First, games are a pain in the buttocks to run. Second, the console market is bigger.

    The next gen of consoles will drive graphics technology to the next level. Then PC gamers can be in awe of their mods to those games…until they crash.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000769591011 Nick Anteau

      and yet, the last 10 hottest years have all taken place in the last 15 years, hint hint.

    • 1080p/60fps or bust

      Nonsense.  Check out Metro 2033…not even the highest GPU (GTX 580), with nearly 10x the power of Xenos (360′s GPU), can run the game at 1080p at 60fps at highest settings…and there’s little comparison in terms of visual quality.  XBOX 3 will have, at most, five times the power of XBOX 360 (more or less equivalent to a GTX 560 ti), just as the 360 had four times the power of the XBOX.

      If you need more proof, check out the PC edition of Battlefield 3; it’s been designed for current PC hardware, and will simply obliterate anything running on any console…period.  When the new consoles are released, yes; they will briefly be a good value, just as the 360 was.  However, you’re limited to that power for the next five+ years, where as PC gamers will be running those same games at much higher resolutions and framerates a year or two later.  I currently (easily) run *all* 360 ports at 1080p/60fps (which requires 4.5 times the power of the 360, as it runs nearly all games at 720p/30fps), and with additional effects such as PhysX, 16x AA, etc…and there is simply no comparison between this visual experience and the current consoles.  No … comparison.

      • 1080p/60fps or bust

        correction: 590, not 580 (580 is 7x, give or take, Xenos)

    • Not True 720P (console)

      @Timothy Larkin
      That was a Epic Fail on Tim’s failing argument.

      “First, games are a pain in the buttocks to run. Second, the console market is bigger”

      Dude, 1 nothing is a pain unless your inexperienced or an idiot. 2 Console market is profitable to sell the same game on a yearly basis. You don’t own a real gaming PC so you have not experienced a real PC game in its true form. Console games, most are not running in TRUE 720p and that is a true fact. More closely to 600-ish resolution.

      I guess your type of mindset is perfect for developers which makes console gaming profitable too many ignorant console noobs.

    • Not True 720P (console)

      @Timothy Larkin
      That was a Epic Fail on Tim’s failing argument.

      “First, games are a pain in the buttocks to run. Second, the console market is bigger”

      Dude, 1 nothing is a pain unless your inexperienced or an idiot. 2 Console market is profitable to sell the same game on a yearly basis. You don’t own a real gaming PC so you have not experienced a real PC game in its true form. Console games, most are not running in TRUE 720p and that is a true fact. More closely to 600-ish resolution.

      I guess your type of mindset is perfect for developers which makes console gaming profitable too many ignorant console noobs.

    • Not True 720P (console)

      @Timothy Larkin
      That was a Epic Fail on Tim’s failing argument.

      “First, games are a pain in the buttocks to run. Second, the console market is bigger”

      Dude, 1 nothing is a pain unless your inexperienced or an idiot. 2 Console market is profitable to sell the same game on a yearly basis. You don’t own a real gaming PC so you have not experienced a real PC game in its true form. Console games, most are not running in TRUE 720p and that is a true fact. More closely to 600-ish resolution.

      I guess your type of mindset is perfect for developers which makes console gaming profitable too many ignorant console noobs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JonathanRobinson16 Jonathan Robinson

    This is to PC gamers…  Do you think the regular joe would rather play games like Madden, CoD, GTA, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, etc. on PC instead of home consoles?

    • Anonymous

      Well, that’s honestly where I draw the line Jon.  I don’t care how other people define entertainment.  I don’t care, because, it’s not up to me what makes something fun for others.  What’s fun for _me_, however, is entirely different.  And in that sense, I’d much rather play the majority of the titles you listed on PC, because I get more out of my PC.

      Again though, it’s personal choice here, whether you think other people want X, or Y, is irrelevant.  It’s what each person finds fun that matters and really no one has any right to try and force that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RBROLNUXNCEIDQR45J77KB52BU Juan

      they’d look way better for sure. and i use an xbox 360 controller for some of my pc games, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JonathanRobinson16 Jonathan Robinson

    This is to PC gamers…  Do you think the regular joe would rather play games like Madden, CoD, GTA, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, etc. on PC instead of home consoles?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colin-Mcsperritt/1481771959 Colin Mcsperritt

    Jonathon, I’m a regular Joe and I DO play those games on the PC because for me it’s actually cheaper and the games look and run better, plus I like not being forced to use a controller for everything.

  • http://www.facebook.com/EveofLight Disseirie Hernandez

    Who gives a flying crap -__- 

    I don’t care what I play on as long as I play and the graphics don’t really matter to me, what matters is the game I paid $60 bucks for better have an awesome story, and maybe some long hours of gameplay.

  • http://twitter.com/howmanymikes Mike Rees

    PC gamer here – stopped caring about consoles long ago. The best games don’t need good graphics – I’ve had more fun on minecraft than even on the current gen console games I do enjoy. League of Legends is another great example of why PC gaming is more my thing – I’ve thrown my life away to that game.

  • http://twitter.com/howmanymikes Mike Rees

    PC gamer here – stopped caring about consoles long ago. The best games don’t need good graphics – I’ve had more fun on minecraft than even on the current gen console games I do enjoy. League of Legends is another great example of why PC gaming is more my thing – I’ve thrown my life away to that game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000769591011 Nick Anteau

    i still love pc and console games. the pc is already over 5 generations ahead in terms of graphics in current consoles. but graphics arn’t everything. i still play lots of older games on pc and ps2, n64, ece. these games had better stories, gameplay, and single-player value. so if the new consoles come out, they will probably be all about graphics, and i won’t bother buying one

  • 1080p/60fps or bust

    Someone believes that his 360 is more powerful than a PC I can build for $250?  Nonsense.  In fact, for $400, I could build a PC that will beat the new round of consoles, and right now…why wait?  For $600…forgetaboutit. :)

    If you’re not getting at least a 560ti-equivalent GPU in your new console (note that a 560ti currently costs $250), then it isn’t worth $600…period…because it will take at least that much power to run games at 1080p with noticably higher textures and geometry, even at 30fps (which, of course, the games are guaranteed to run at [as consoles cheat]).

  • JESUS23

    PC gaming is the ultimate in FPS, true hardcore gaming. Just bought a gaming PC for $400 plus a monitor equals to about $500 to get a good PC gaming computer that plays my games in HD and also serves as my media center, schoolwork, online videos, much more bang for the buck than a console.

     I like the console for racing games or quick play and quit after an hour of gaming on a console. My little bro “buys the new Call of Duty game every year!!!” for the console because the community is just not there to support long-term satisfaction.

    PC graphics will always be ahead as there will not be a console without a PC to create the console games in the 1st place. ;-)

  • JESUS23

    PC gaming is the ultimate in FPS, true hardcore gaming. Just bought a gaming PC for $400 plus a monitor equals to about $500 to get a good PC gaming computer that plays my games in HD and also serves as my media center, schoolwork, online videos, much more bang for the buck than a console.

     I like the console for racing games or quick play and quit after an hour of gaming on a console. My little bro “buys the new Call of Duty game every year!!!” for the console because the community is just not there to support long-term satisfaction.

    PC graphics will always be ahead as there will not be a console without a PC to create the console games in the 1st place. ;-)

  • Iamthe0c3an

    In the end EA was kind enough to bless the PC first with 64 man games on the PC and because consoles cant handle it, when the new consoles come out, we will still have that and the console will still have itty bitty 24 player games. And its unlikely MS or Sony will release f2p games on console anytime soon.