Gran Turismo 5 (GT5) Vs Forza 3: Which Game is Better?

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It was only a matter of time before comparisons with the recently released Gran Turismo 5 were made with the best racer on the Xbox 360 in Forza 3 Motorsport. If you have played both, we want to know which game you think is better.

To help you with your decision, G4TV has posted a very useful video comparison on the two games, letting you see what both titles look like on similar tracks, side by side.

If you are talking about which is the best racing ‘simulator’, then you would probably agree that GT5 gets one up on Forza, since the gameplay on Forza 3 is best described as more of a ‘arcade’ experience, whereas GT5 tends to focus in detail on certain elements.

If you don’t own both consoles though, you probably haven’t had the chance of playing both titles yet, so we’re saving this debate for the hardcore followers out there who enjoyed Forza 3, but are now spending their time on GT5.

Take a look at G4′s video below, and then let us know which game you think is best overall, with reasons to explain your decision.

Also See: F1′s David Coulthard vs PS3 GT5 gamers – Mercedes live stream

  • Mike

    "If you are talking about which is the best racing ‘simulator’, then you would probably agree that GT5 gets one up on Forza, since the gameplay on Forza 3 is best described as more of a ‘arcade’ experience, whereas GT5 tends to focus in detail on certain elements."

    This is where you are totally wrong. GT5 is a casual drivers game. City streets, fantasy tracks, licenses etc. Pretty much a racing game where you jump in and go.
    Forza 3 on the other hand is more of a true simulation game. Real tracks, real events, the tuning ability and parts configurations are endless. It enables people to take the everyday car and turn it in to a full blown race car.

    So GT5 = Street racers game
    Forza 3 = Race car drivers game

    By the way, that video is retarded, who drives on the outside of there car? Newbs!

    • yoyo

      wtf you moron both games have real and fantasy tracks give it a rest dips**t.

    • icefox

      totally wrong, most important thing about a simulator is not about cars, tracks, or parts, but PHYSICS and FEEL! F3 falls short on the handling feel to GT5. Period.

      Live for Speed is a great simulator without a single real car/track.

    • Andres

      I do drive from the outside of the car, have a fucking problem about that? you are a fucking retarded noob.
      We drive how we want, we dont need a stupid faggot to tell us how to.

    • zxtwou2

      i actually do race cars, and i'd have to agree that Forza3 feels more like real racing (aside from the teenagers that demolition derby the starts online). GT5 is more tedious (racing the same old races to build money up), the lack of in cockpit view on 70% of the cars is a huge downfall for me, and i love racing tracks like Road America, Sebring, Road Atlanta…places i've actually raced my car.

    • Bob

      You have obviously never played GT5.

    • andrew

      ive played both F3 and GT5/GT4. Gran Turismo has better tracks and Forza has better cars GT is more challenging pushing the players to their limits plus more. GT has realistic handling F3 dont in real life i bet you cant take a turn as sharp as some of the turns in forza at 70 like i do and still stay on the track. face it Mike GT is far better then F3 in graphics, game play, realism its a game that i dont have to put on hard with every type of assist off to get a challenge from every other car thats the type of driving simulator that get the job done.

  • @dannytech_lt

    Well I think in terms of overall realistic I'd say forza I am a HUGE fan of Gran turismo franchise but after all the pushbacks thinking it would be worth it , it wasn't…

    For me what makes a game is realness from engine sound , ride, details to HP n tq forza takes it, gt5 doesn't have enough fan favorite cars and graphics don't seem up to par with forza .. go to camera shoot and look at forzas detailed work way in the background .. do the same with gt5 u will clearly agree forza wins..

    I think forza owns the world of cars on a console although forza has license tests and special boards remember forza has been out since 08 or 07 .. Gt5 u let us down and u might have 1000there not all cars we care about so forza the trophy is u as bench racing game

    • moparful99

      Umm sorry but a game that has auto braking and a rewind feature for when you screw up automatically loses the “sim racing” moniker.. Is gt5 perfect? Nope. But as far as attention to detail and the most realistic physics in a racer gt5 wins hands down.. If you want an everymans racer go with forza, alot easier to be successful and its more about fun.. If you wan’t the most realistic racing game you can get your hands on then gt5 is the only way to go..

  • Jay

    Forza is clearly a good racing game and has got the jump on GT5 due to being out earlier, but after playing both I can say that as a fan of racing simulators I prefer GT5.

    I agree that I am not blown away by GT5 due to the built up expectations after multiple delays but if you line the 2 games up there is a clear winner. Sure, customization would be cool. Sure Damage could have been implemented better and the progression through the game could have been updated.

    But, the inclusion of NASCAR and the WRC is awesome. The detail of the 300 Premium Cars is amazing. The level of control you have over realistic car settings is mind boggling and the overall real life handling is what makes GT5 is the undisputed champ of Racing Simulators.

    • Jody

      I could not agree more, it is nice to see someone that has played both games and gets the incredible feel gt5 has, when it’s just you, the car and track it’s stunning,

      Yes, forza is great to race due to closer rules to ensure a tight contest, but the handling can seem a little predictable and easy on times, even when driving cars like the Enzo. Gt5 has a poor on line setup, the sound from the engine is accurate, but not as good as Forza, Forza has better customization and tuning options.

      GT5 at times can be one of the most frustrating games I have played, but all of a sudden you can have the most amazing race, just try to beat your time around the green hell in a Ferrari f430 scuderia chasing your ghost car and all is forgiven, simply put, if I could only play one, it would be GT5.

  • shawn

    If everyone blind? The video on the right is clearly better. Forza is not a SIM, so you are retarded. Just look at the development of the game and you would see that. People are retarded. How can you just make that up? GT has and always be the only Driving SIM. This is something that is know throughout the video game developing world. Of course people just think what they just came up with is reality. All you have to do is look at how the games were developed and the physics in the game engine.

    • Legend

      You’re an idiot

    • L0ck0nStr4t0s

      Wow have you ever driven a car in real life?? They are both good sims BUT its 2 different developers take on real life physics for racing I prefer GT5 but for drift and attention to physics other than grip Forza wins theyre both good…but none of this is gonna matter when Forza 4 comes out.

  • Forza3FTL

    First off gt5 has entry of real life tracks from the streets and world circuits. The long beach gran prix is a street track for example.

    Gt5 lacks the customization as Forza does but when it comes down to it…. I didn’t buy a RACING SIMULATOR to put wild paint jobs on the car.

    Gran turismo offers realistic numbers with time attack times and real mph speeds. Forza has it to where a civic can do 220+ ……. Retarded.

    Anyways if you want a real real racing simulator get gt5…. If you want to be hella flush and race with 12 y/o kids who think jdm and vtec is the greatest go play forza3

    • sergserg

      well you can't be hella flush in forza 3, because you can't control wheel offsets, only width. there is no hellaflush setup. thanks for stopping by

    • Brad

      I have raced cars for real. I grew up on Gran Turismo, and this one is a disappointment. While neither Forza or GT5 truly handle like a real car, Forza is a lot more realistic with the car handling. GT5 is more of the looks departments. Forza 3 has a lot more realistic tracks compared to GT5. Though none of these games compare to iracer and true racing sims like it. I have to admit I was really looking forward to GT 5 and when I bought it and played it I was really really disapointed. Poly dropped the ball on this one.

  • Racer Russ

    I have both Gran Turismo 5 and Forza Motorsports 3. I wouldn't say there is no comparison between the two, but even as a fan of the Gran Turismo series from the beginning, I have to say Forza is better. It's not necessarily just a graphics thing (where both seem to be pretty comparable), it's the whole game play experience. The menus make more sense in Forza, the classification of cars makes more sense in Forza, the online play is better in Forza, the events are better in Forza, etc. I'm an absolute addict when it comes to racing games and I'll play both of them all the way through but Forza has my heart, it's sad too, because I otherwise loathe the Xbox360 when compared to the PS3, but it is what it is: Forza Motorsports 3 is the better game.

    What the hell were the developers of Gran Turismo doing with all of that time? They need to hire some better project managers or something…

  • slobbodan

    neither are sims. The only hardcore sims are on PC..Grand prix legends or any racing game by simbin like GTR..its what the F1 and race drivers use as training they are like driving real cars. GT and Forza are arcade games in comparison.

    BUT otherwise GT by miles. GT is awsome Forza just plain sucks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Tuned2F Corey Hall

    Forza has always had a better and more realistic physics engine than gran turismo. Look at top gears comparison of track times posted in forza/gt4 vs. real life. Forza is more realistic when it comes to everything other than PS3's graphics and 3d. Gran turismo has never really had an accurate sense of handling either. Dodge Vipers in real life handle very well, as in Forza, what does GT5 have against them. They readily fly off the track even at low speeds.

    Forza is the real racing sim. With real math. GT5 is basically Need For Speed with 1000 cars and realistic upgrades.

    • Knightshade

      "Dodge Vipers in real life handle very well, as in Forza, what does GT5 have against them. They readily fly off the track even at low speeds. "
      rofl. I was wondering the same thing

      After playing both I'd have to say I prefer Forza for the same reasons. GT5 got a lot of simple stuff wrong.Found Forza a lot easier to navigate..

      I really want to know what everyone thinks makes GT more realistic..

    • vinnx

      lol.. I don't think the vipers handle that well, I remember watching a Rolex Sports Car series and the Vipers were spinning out everywhere on the track. But yes some Vipers do handle pretty well, but it all depends on which one.

  • CAbbott

    Forza works for the massive range of customization of cars; yes you can make silly cars but it still fun. A menu system that makes sense and that is easy to use. Rating system for cars so you can easily race against similar cars. The fact you can make money and experience online. Damage that will affect the cars. But most of all ease of use and FUN!

    GT works in the cars and does it work great there. It has better graphics but also has graphic problems. But it is let down everywhere else most crappy menu system. Lack of options to change car. The length of the game according to in game profile I am at 50% after a week.
    It great but it hard to just have fun!

    Which rules neither does, if you’re a fan of car racing both are must plays.

    If you have not played Forza once you finished or bored with GT5 give it a go, anyone to say it sucks has not played Forza.

  • Kin

    I've played both Forza and GT5. Both are games on their own. Despite all the nuisances in GT5, it has much better physics compare to Forza, in fact they have improve on their physics since GT1 till now. Although, there are a lot of glitches, after 5 years of development, but one thing I must complain though, the car just seems like travelling slower than the speedo say. Well I guess you can't really compare real world to virtual world. Nevertheless, it's absolutely phenomenal as a car simulator.

    As for Forza, definitely can't argue that it has more freedom in term of customization. But the thing is Forza's physics engine just not as good as GT5. To me personally, playing Forza it's like video game driving. Nevertheless, it's fun to play. And of course the whole visual and mechanical damage has GT5 beat. But no matter, Forza is a game of its own, and so is GT5.

    I don't see the point of comparing both game, cause obviously both games are designed for a different intent and purposes.

    Simply put, you don't waste you $60 buying a game to complain, so just enjoy it the way it is, and have fun with it eh!.

  • Johnny on the spot

    Theres just … nothing about forza that I like I have bought forza 1 and 2 and played forza 3 for a few hours. I really dont care about painting and putting decals on my car If I did I would have bought Need for speed. Gt5 has many flaws but its still greater than forza which plays the same since the first forza. Forza has made a game that appeals to everyone gt5 has made a game that appeals to SIM racers.

  • frik

    Like they say, both forza and Gt are arcade racers!
    I own Gt5 and yes its a great game but after 70hours you get bored just driving around tracks, thats where customisation comes in, you can personalize your car and have fun while doing that which exstend your playing time. If you compare that to NFS then GT is in the same boat coz GT has no damage that effects your driving so you can barrierslide your way through the track, crash into everybody and nothing happens? Forze you cant take shortcuts, in GT5 if you slam into someone to get past them you can and your car still drives fine. Whats so super realistic about that? Both games are fun. Wished forza also had offroad and endurance and lisensing which by the way is more like a realy long tutorial to polish up your driving but it gives you more hours of play. But ill rather stay with FM3, I can have fun on the track in career, online, customize, and I cant take shortcuts or ram everyone ftw. Forza will stay on top only until sony/poly wakes up and make few adjustments to GT like customization, damage, online gameplay.

    • jayhao

      you obviously don't know what you are talking about if you had played the game, or you are jsut too retarded to notice. In GT5, you slowly unlock the damage system, as you lvl up your exp. This is to help beginning drivers. so, no, GT5 is not in the same NFS boat as forza.

  • 1aq

    It's easy to go for a spin: "Forza Motorsport 3" redefines the racing genre by blurring the definition of simulation and arcade. Simulation games can be too hard for some players. "Forza Motorsport 3" rises above the distinction between simulation and arcade games by using a myriad of cutting-edge driving and gameplay assists such as auto-braking, gameplay rewind and auto-tuning. "Forza Motorsport 3" delivers an experience where everyone can have fun behind the wheel, regardless of your skill and dexterity. Whether you're a newcomer or a seasoned racing game pro, "Forza Motorsport 3" caters to how you drive and the game evolves with you over time as your skills develop.

  • Turtz

    Ive had Forza 2 and 3 and really like them. I just bought a PS3 only for GT5 and whilst disappointed at the lame user interface, long load times, and simple static bitmap backgrounds, I DO like the way the cars drive, and the sensation of speed and handling better than Forza. Forza 3 has the edge when it comes to background graphics, but when following cards in GT5, the detail is amazing. Simply put: racing accuracy and in-race car graphics BETTER in GT5. Environment graphics and user interface BETTER in Forza 3. If I could only have 1, it would be GT5.

  • billbob

    Hi, I have neither of these systems. I want one though, but I can only get onefor very cheap. you can get a 360 and fm3 ultimate edition for cheap, the ps3 is still quite expensive, and I only wish to have gt5 collectors edition, which is also expensive, fm3 got very well ratings, so my best bet is fm3, right?

    • Gino

      Yup. You can’t go wrong with forza 3. I haven’t played gt5, but I have played gt1-4 and forza 3 is better than all of them. I really can’t say it’s better than 5 cause again, i haven’t played it. But forza 3 customization, storefront, community, and support from turn 10 are amazing. All things that I assume are lacking in gt5. Of course hats off to gt5 for night driving, dirt tracks, NASCAR, and weather. Those are all things I hope to see in forza 4.

    • Jody

      I have both and they are excellent, but if I could only play one it would be GT5, it excels in some area’s and not in others, but for someone who looks for the most real driving experience with the best force feed back, this is your game, it is harder to play than forza but more rewarding to master.

  • Tyler

    Ok, look, let me just say both are good games, and let me say both have their flaws. I have Fora 3, and ive played several hours of GT5 at a friend's house. He has a High def TV and I have standard, yes, at times GT5 has OMG that looks god moments, but quite often the game just looks … funny you have really realistic looking cars with some sub par backgrounds and smoke effects, especially when raining and snowing. it just looks surreal changing between good looking and something just slapped together. And let me just ask what the heck is realistic and SIM about having one car in your garage look realistic (premium) and the other looks like, as my friend would put it, GT4 graphics. I don't understand how the producers can go around counting stitches on doors on some cars and make the majority look like crap… stupidity! Same deal with driving physics, really quite realistic, more-so that forza I'll admit, but then you hit a wall or annother car and just sorta bounce off with no repercussions or drama, last complaint is the car sounds aren't the best either. However, I do like the whether change and rally, which is unique and fun, and the mas variety of cars some of which are more fun to have than useful, but overall the whole thing feels so dang slapped together as a rush to get the game out. Forza on the other hand does not have as many cars as GT5, but they are all fully detailed, customizable, and tune-able, the maps look better and have consistently good graphics, Ihave not played GT5 online, but Forza has many fun game modes as well as die-hard races, and for all of you saying you didn't buy a sim to have a fancy paint job, tell that to yourself when you upgrade your car and it still looks stock instead of a race car. To sum it up, GT5 has brilliance some of the time, and inconsistency all the time, while forza 3 is a better all round game that has better replay due to the depth of customization, while GT5's shock and awe factor rubs off after you realize that your favorite car is a standard version and looks like something you get out of a cracker-jack box, and cant even drive in cockpit view to resolve its ugliness! sheish, even I was looking forward to GT5 but all I wanted to do when I got home was play forza, even if the amount of stitches in the door isn't accurate… rant OVER!!!

  • Redfrontdoor

    I've read most of the slaggings for both on most site's and its exactly the sam as when the PS3 was nearly released and all the kiddies were saying how much better it was with out even seeing one. What sorts out the GT5 v Forza for me is that my local games shop has traded in Forza 3's for £10.

  • J1NKSY

    hi

  • dsfds

    what kind of video comparison whas that!?!?!?! Diferent tracks, diferent cars, shitty driving… And in Forza, that was the very first race you do when you boot up the game! just awefulll

  • LJK

    I can’t quite understand why people are comparing the two games,Forza & GT,when most agree that one is an arcade racer and the other is a racing simulator.If you want to hit curves an corners at 200mph and have a ton of fun doing all sorts of crazy things,get Forza.If you want the realism of how a 400 bhp machine handles without traction control,get GT.GT wasn’t created to entertain anyone…

  • spacewhale

    "I can't quite understand why people are comparing the two games, Forza & GT, when most agree that one is an arcade racer and the other is a racing simulator."

    Do most people really say that or is it just this perception that GT games are hardcore and everything else isn't? I played all previous GT games to death but after my PS2 I got a 360 and bought Forza (eventually) in November. It's a fantastic game and feels more realistic than all previous GT games. What is arcade about tyre deformation, customisable everything and clutch control? It's clearly aimed at the sim genre regardless of how absolutely true to life it is. It is, after all, a simulation GAME – and so is GT5.

    "If you want to hit curves an corners at 200mph and have a ton of fun doing all sorts of crazy things, get Forza. If you want the realism of how a 400 bhp machine handles without traction control, get GT. GT wasn't created to entertain anyone…"

    Of course it's designed to entertain! BTW You can't hit curves at 200mph in Forza (only on a speedway perhaps). If you've actually played Forza you'd know your statement is just exaggeration for effect. As soon as I began playing Forza 3 I went straight to the options and turned off all the assists – otherwise it would be arcadey. You can't slam the throttle in a 400hp RWD car in Forza without TCS on and expect it not to spin out.

    • jayhao

      and is your point is to state that forza and GT has the same lvl of simulation? GT has a far better physic simulation engine than forza, and that is a fact based on numbers, not opion.

      • Knightshade

        give us these numbers because we've heard contradictory statements before. I'm beginning to believe some (most?) fans are just trying to justify the price and lengthy wait for this game. Collisions appear silly in GT and its very noticeable.

      • Skylinegreg

        most of the vehicles ln gt5 have the same sound

      • Skylinegreg

        most of the vehicles ln gt5 have the same sound

  • Stef–01

    Love gt games but they’ve slowly been getting worse as the years go on. I gave up waiting on gt5 and bought an xbox to play forza3. Best money I ever spent. Then finally gt5 came out after a five year wait and in blaze of publicity. And to quite frank someone at polyphony should be shot! Five years for that ! Should be called gt4 and a half ! Online is good if your playing mates and you’ve all got the same car but generally the game is a total let down. I’m gutted ! Graphics are an absolute joke cars hopeless, races are monotonous ! They really have screwed up no end. Also has anyone noticed all the cars handle almost the same? Fords has none of these drawbacks and although it’s not perfect it sets the bar.

  • Satanh

    Sad to say I had high Hopes for GT5 ,,,

    But after playing it ,,,I feel I wasted my money

    There are to many problems to list in GT5 ,….Forza 3 is a far better game ,,,

    You would think with all the time that went into GT5 it would have Blown Forza away

    GT 4 was even better then GT5

  • andy

    I own both of these games and i think they both handle pretty similiar side by side. Both aren't full sims but both are fun to play if you want to drive around tracks in your favourite cars.

    A few huge things that lets GT5 down in my opinion are

    1) The interface – This is probably the worst interface i have had to work with in any game. Trying to get places is hard. Oh need a certain car for an event? Just write them down and go back through 2 menus to get to the used cars/dealership menus…. FAIL! You should be able to press find me cars for this event and show me a list. For interface design i would give this game a 1/10.

    2) Dumb AI – Ai has catchup plus will knock you off the road at will. That in my opinion does not capture the essence of racing.

    3) Clutch does not work like a real clutch for G25/G27's

    Imo GT5 tried to bite off more then it could chew and ended up being a bit of a mess.

    • Knightshade

      Can't confirm #3 but I agree strongly with you on 1 and 2. I'm surprised that you think GT stands up to Forza taking those two into consideration.

      Dumb AI = boring Career mode
      Boring Career mode + long load times + clunky menus + more load times = annoying ripoff…
      I know it has "1000" cars. but in reality they are pretty much all the same and most don't have cockpits/ look like they are out of GT4.. so who's fooling who?

  • Jimmy

    I own both and I have to say, while they both have their shortcomings, GT5 excels in the area that is of most importance to me – handling. GT5 feels like racing on four wheels. From the first drive, it just feels "right". Forza 3 on the other hand feels very unnatural in comparison. I dig Forza, but it doesn't feel quite right. I also prefer the track selection in GT5 and the ability to choose what track you want to race online – how is this not an option in Forza?

    Graphically speaking I much prefer GT5 as well, despite some serious issues such as ridiculously close pop up, shadows with the chunkiest pixelation I've seen since the NES days, 2d trees and frequent screen tear. Forget 3D, just get the basics right before you screw around with something 99% of your market won't be able to utilise.

    Forza's car models are nowhere near as good as the premium GT5 cars and the scenery is generally pretty bland and sterile. The Premium GT5 cars look phenomenal, the other cars look terrible. This is a first for me – I've never come across a game with two tiers of quality before.

    The interaction with other cars in GT5 can only be described as retarded and they only recorded one collision sound effect which sounds like two plastic rubbish bins being banged together – utterly ridiculous.

    Honestly, GT5 doesn't feel finished, yet it handles better than any other game I've played so I'm still giving it the nod over Forza – the handling is that good. As IGN said, this handles like a 10/10 game wrapped in a 5/10 package. WTF Polyphony, we waited for ages and not only does perfection elude you but even mediocrity in some areas.

  • ForzaOverGT

    all i have to say is i like forza3 for the personalization of the cars as in gt5 you can have all the people you race have the same car as you wheres all the fun in that? i say forza 3 wins in customization and gt5 fails at some things

    if my car is not fit for a race it tels me in forza 3 AND lets me switch there not go back to my garage or buy a car

    gt5 clearly has graphics but forza has personalization and graphics while gt5 has a crappy interface and handling
    gt4 was better than gt5 and gt3 was better than gt4 so basically it all went downhill from gt3

    GT5: 2/10
    Forza 3: 8/10

  • Guest

    Having just played GT5 I was let down by most of the game, I don't have a console any more but still have access to 360's & PS3's. so I'm no fan of either system.

    The cars handling is very weird, the effect when you hit a wall/AI car is awful, I used to be a fan of the GT series until Forza came out years ago and in my opinion the cars feel much better.

    I have many proper simulation games (GPL, GTR Evo etc etc) and Forza feels far more like them and given that I have done Hill climb events & other trackdays in various FWD & RWD cars I truly believe they have screwed the physics up on GT5, especially with the rally stages.

    Also the menu system seems to have been designed by someone who loves wasting time, maybe they just wanted to give you more time to listen to the naff Jazz music they have in the menu!

    As for the graphics, neither system can really do much more given the limited graphics architecture they both have, it's o.k. but nothing to write home about, lets face it both have GFX chips that were obsolete 4-5 years ago.

  • TSH

    Let's put it this way, I'm glad I played GT5 first. But after all the hype and a couple weeks of playing, it's just the same thing. You have to grind for money in both games, but it seems more worthwhile in Forza. At least with Forza you can level up your cars to get manufacturer discounts on parts. With GT5, the special and seasonal events are fun, but you have to take into account that there are less than 60 offline events. Once you're done with those, it's the same thing over and over. It's the same formula GT has always used.

    The real dealbreaker for me is that only 200 (the premium cars) get full-cockpit views in GT5. With Forza 3, all the cars have first-person cockpit views. The other 800 (standard cars) in GT5 only have the first-person bumper camera view. And the cars drive differently in cockpit view versus bumper camera view, as they should. This creates a learning curve driving the car first-person for a car versus a standard car. With Forza 3, you can drive all the cars in cockpit view. And while they might not look as good as GT5, it's fun to see the different dashboard layouts, especially for a model line with a long pedigree. Of course graphics are important, but gameplay is equally important. Bottom line: being stuck with bumper cam view for 800 cars ruins the gameplay for me.

    GT5 should be better. It's a year newer, it's exclusive to a more powerful console, it's on a Bluray disc, and it's supposed to be a console seller. If you ask most Xbox owners, I bet they'd agree Forza 3 is not a console seller. But after a couple weeks of solid play with GT5, I mostly just have my B-spec drivers run endurance races so I don't have to grind for cash.

    I didn't want Xbox or Forza to win. I've never owned an Xbox and didn't want to. I expected for 5 years for Sony and GT5 to win. Let's put it this way, I was disappointed enough to go out and buy an Xbox 360 and Forza 3. Crazy right? But I am so glad I did.

    • knightshade

      Wow you pretty much echoed my sentiments. I never really knew much about the Forza franchise until I remembered GT was a playstation exclusive. I played GT5 a fews days before deciding to get Forza and was impressed.

      GT5 just makes you feel cheated in so many ways. The 5 year wait just adds to the insult.

  • gotskillz

    Forza 3 cannot be compared to GT5 for alot of reasons. Forza does not have wrc, karts, dirt, snow, night racing, nascar, BSPEC, remote racing where you can do races via smartphone or pc ANYWHERE. Note that gt5 gets updates like twice a month.

    GT5 also has the better graphics, physics, car selection, content. Forza also limits the number of actual cars and blur effects to hide the ugly truth and the environment looks cartoonish due to sub lvl lighting. Also id rather have few but incomparable interiors rather than having all of them look like plastic ripoffs. also wheels suck when used in forza 3.

    By the looks of PS3 exclusives like uncharted series, god of war 3, mgs4, killzone, heavyrain etc. None of the xbox 360 exclusives even came close graphically to those titles. so if you think that forza 3 and even forza 4 will be better… There is something wrong with you. Give me a 360 game that looks better than uncharted 2… Thought so LOL

  • Albyc1nu1

    Hi I have played both and imo Gt5 is better. The handling is just so much more realistic. Earlier posts says GT5s cars all handle the same. This is nonsense. They obviously haven't played it. Gt5 does have it's flaws like the shadows, I think the shadows mess up because they are so complicated, don't laugh, if you carefully watch the shadows on replays each individual branch of tree each lamppost each barrier casts its own shadow according to where the sun is. This task alone is big when some tracks have lots of trees and other things like nuremberg does. You have to give PD credit to go where others dare not attempt. GT5 is a innovator. They never just play it safe, that's to easy. O yeah GT5 has go karts, rally, nascar, F1 not to mention all the road cars and racing cars. What more could you ask for

  • Xstatic Dallas

    Seriously the debate between the Forzas, and the GTs has gotten old.

    I love racing simulators, and I race regularly in real life. I've played both game titles from the start. And I havfe to say…What Polyphony Digital offers….Just ain't it.

    Of course people like the way the cars in GT handle…They are MUCH easier to drive than Forza's. Why is that? Hard to say really. But who ever it was that called Forza "arcade like" has never driven a high power car on track. Sure we all like to think we can "drive" because we dont lose control of our Civic while flat footing it to the corner store. Think again. Driving light weight, high horse power cars at insane speeds, is indeed, difficult. Especially if its rear drive.

    I'm assuming the people that vote GT5 as the winner of this contest prefer…easy to drive cars. Instead of a car that requires skill. Gran Tourismo has never really been more than Need for Speed Underground handling. Ever! In ways like…well a 900 horsepower Viper (gt4) would barely squeal the tires if in 2nd gear turning at full throttle…While in Forza (F2) a 700 horsepower Viper will spin right around on you. Which is true to life. Also….braking…If you nail the brakes a bit to hard…no matter what you do…you're going to slide straight off the track, not the case in GT5. And just one more example…The engine sound effects in GT5 are damn joke! No shift pause….no stutters….back fires….nothing. Just lame sound effects that I'm sure I would've at one time been impressed with in the 90's.

    The debate between Forza 3 and GT5 needs to be debated by real drivers. Coming from this one….it's Forza 3…GT5 doesn't even come close. and is yet ANOTHER pushed back, EXPENSIVE dissapointment from Polyphony Digital. Do they even have car guys working over there? Obviously Turn 10 does….

    • Knightshade

      I drive a civic and still prefer Forza.
      Btw civics are nice.. the cops tend to ignore you instead of pulling you over.
      Even at 105mph for some reason.

  • PS360i5

    Lol ur post stinks of fanboy… How exactly can u claim fm3 is better when u cannot turn off the steering aids or the fact the game has zero weight transfer or lift off oversteer?… My crappy fwd car IRL can get better lift off oversteer at 60mph than any rwd does at 120 mph in FM3… Even GTA4 had better weight transfer and oversteer than FM3… FM is the better polished game, GT is the better handling(by far) Sim..

    FM3 is the better casual game with kid friendly handling, Ricer sticker mods and permanant steering aids.. GT5 is the better "Sim" with 100% driver control and ability to control cars on the edge and not just understeer off the road like in FM3 in 900hp rwd cars… GT5 is if u want decent physics, FM3 is if u want posing fake tan ricer mods thats easy to play…

    Even T10 said they were dumbing down the "sim" aspects to make it more accessible… Which goes against everything you should be doing when making a "sim"…

    PD's aim was to make GT as real as poss without compromise for noobs or people that baww when things are not made easy for them with handholding…

    Sims are only played by a minority and M$ ruined FM by trying to make it accessible to everyone… Still not everyone bought it and only the "sim" hardcore are left playing it with its crippled noob aimed handling and crap matchmaking…

  • jerritt

    I have gt5 I have played forza I must say they are to great racing games but neither get the whole cake they both get 50% of it. Gt5 has better physics and better races and better feel. On the other hand forza has more car customization and more fan favorites, also better background graphics because when I'm racing I'm really thinking about how great that tree looks of to the left. And to adress the damage issue during story on gt5 thee damge is set on gt5 online or free races you set the kind of damage you want I can be realistic or completely fake your choice. But I have to say if your racing for realness get gt5, racing for more casual feel get forza

  • thecars

    forza 3 is a far better game, sure gt5 might have like a million cars but forza 3 gives you the cars that matter i mean the wcr and NASCAR upgrades are cool,but if u want a real race, forza 3 is where its at.

  • thecars

    my cousin owns gt5 and he wishes he had forza 3,true story.

  • Tschultz

    FM3 is an amazing game.
    Apparently everybody who plays GT5 thinks it is a 'ricer' game.
    If you get into the customization AT ALL, you will realize FM3 has a great physics engine and road feel. Every car feels different and tuning affects the way the car drives. Customization of paint, and different parts such as exhaust, intake, roll cage, tires, aerokits, superchargers, engine swaps, wheels, transmissions, awd drive conversions.
    It is the real deal with dash's for every car and comparable rating indexes for the cars.
    FM3 is a very good game and people are giving it crap, yet I doubt they have even given it a chance.
    Turn off assists and run No abs, no traction, no stability, manual gearbox and it IS a simulator.
    It seems that the people who say FM3 is for 'ricer's have not seen the selection of muscle cars, race cars, super cars, stock cars, and Le Mans cars.
    Hop into Nurburgring or Fujimi Kaido Hill Climb, or Rally De Positano an dtel me it is not a simulation!

  • Fat Stig

    i do agree that neither game is what i would call a fully simulated driving experience.
    how ever having spent much time under the hood of a real car,and have logged some time on a racetrack with said car. i would say that gt5 may be more technicly accurate. however Forza feels more like the real deal.
    the rwd's overstear the fwd's understear and the awd's do a little of both. i have always had an issue with this in the gt series, i could never understand why i could not get my shiny new viper to sidestep and drift a corner. instead it would just understear in to the nearest wall. now i know that most of that you can turn off when you set your car up. but dammit jim im a mechanic not a wizard. the other thing i prefer with forza is the ability to modify. i have an sr20det powered datsun 510 just like a friend of mines car. and when im bored with arcade style simulation i can switch over to painting my cars. i curently have cars dedicated to my Favorite batman characters and an ford mustang shelby that looks like a box of mc donalds frys. preaty cool. oh and props to the good folks who made forza to beating sony at there own game

  • RollerCoaster107

    Gran Turismo 5 is really the better of the two overall. It feels like you're actually driving the car, rather than just playing a video game. That alone makes GT5 the better experience besides many other things. Gran Turismo 5 is The Real Driving Simulator and always has been since 1997. GT5 is about loving cars and collecting them which is why it comes with 1,031 cars. It's for people who have a strong passion for cars, and like collecting all sorts of them. FM3 seems to just concentrate on just participating in races and most of the cars are exotic sports cars, instead of covering different kinds like classics, everyday cars, and ones you've never even heard of before. When it comes to driving and the physics and handling, FM3 just doesn't compare. It's not about customization, it's not about damage, or just driving the fastest possible car there is, it's about LOVING cars. That's why GT5 emphasizes the beauty of the cars so much like in the very well done photo travel and photo mode. GT5's personality and beauty make it better than FM3 alone, and it's downright incredible. Maybe only 200+ cars are premium in GT5, but a lot of time went into each and every one of them, and the standard cars look good too. I'm sure the PD team would of loved to make all 1,031 cars premium, but if they did then GT5 wouldn't be out until the year 2020. My point is, they're both great driving experiences, (even know I've never played FM3 before), but when it comes to the overall driving experience and simulation, and the love of cars, GT5 is truly the best driving/racing game ever created, and it's truly head of the pack and king of the genre.

  • vinnx

    For me the most important to a racing game is the feel, and I would say GT5 feels better. They did a better job of having the subtle vibrations in the controller communicate back to you what your car is doing. I can tell when I'm pushing my car to it's absolute limits in GT5 by just the feel of it all.. but in Forza 3 everything feels a bit more detached. I remember hitting a steep elevation change in Forza 3 and didn't even give a slight controller vibration : /

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Wilson/1315770364 Kevin Wilson

    These are BOTH ARCADE GAMES and you cant compare Forza 3 to GT5 its so old now give it a month and compare it to Forza 4 for a real chance. I also have sneaky suspicion thats why GT5 took so long to come out Forza 3 was released GT5 just wasn’t going to be up to par. 

    Also I agree with Fat Stig u want a sim go for Iracer or Rfactor . But the closest your gonna get on a console to sim is FORZA 3 by miles . There Tyre physics model, suspension physics model, aerodynamics physics, weight distribution and how strong your cars body is all effect the performance of it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Wilson/1315770364 Kevin Wilson

    These are BOTH ARCADE GAMES and you cant compare Forza 3 to GT5 its so old now give it a month and compare it to Forza 4 for a real chance. I also have sneaky suspicion thats why GT5 took so long to come out Forza 3 was released GT5 just wasn’t going to be up to par. 

    Also I agree with Fat Stig u want a sim go for Iracer or Rfactor . But the closest your gonna get on a console to sim is FORZA 3 by miles . There Tyre physics model, suspension physics model, aerodynamics physics, weight distribution and how strong your cars body is all effect the performance of it. 

    • scope240sx

      you sir, are incredibly wrong and ignorant.
      I can tell you don’t own a standard transmission car just because of what you said. GT5 is the better game by miles upon miles upon miles. The game actually SIMULATES driving. If you think Forza does that than you have never pushed a car to it’s limits. GT5 is the ultimate driving simulator. 

      • Skylinegreg

        now u sir are incredibly wrong. want me to make a list? forza:better graphics. u can look inside of every car, there are more aero parts and rims,better crash graphics,better tuning,better driving physics and more game modes online. gay turismo -5:more smoke,better pits,only 200 cars have good graphics and look have cockpit,cant put designs on ur car no damage ect. forza features a storefront and auction unlike boring GT5. now decide which u like better. say gt5 then ur an idiot.

        • freddo

          idiot!! you have never played gt5 have you. you tool!!!!

      • Skylinegreg

        now u sir are incredibly wrong. want me to make a list? forza:better graphics. u can look inside of every car, there are more aero parts and rims,better crash graphics,better tuning,better driving physics and more game modes online. gay turismo -5:more smoke,better pits,only 200 cars have good graphics and look have cockpit,cant put designs on ur car no damage ect. forza features a storefront and auction unlike boring GT5. now decide which u like better. say gt5 then ur an idiot.

    • scope240sx

      you sir, are incredibly wrong and ignorant.
      I can tell you don’t own a standard transmission car just because of what you said. GT5 is the better game by miles upon miles upon miles. The game actually SIMULATES driving. If you think Forza does that than you have never pushed a car to it’s limits. GT5 is the ultimate driving simulator. 

    • scope240sx

      you sir, are incredibly wrong and ignorant.
      I can tell you don’t own a standard transmission car just because of what you said. GT5 is the better game by miles upon miles upon miles. The game actually SIMULATES driving. If you think Forza does that than you have never pushed a car to it’s limits. GT5 is the ultimate driving simulator. 

    • scope240sx

      you sir, are incredibly wrong and ignorant.
      I can tell you don’t own a standard transmission car just because of what you said. GT5 is the better game by miles upon miles upon miles. The game actually SIMULATES driving. If you think Forza does that than you have never pushed a car to it’s limits. GT5 is the ultimate driving simulator. 

  • Skylinegreg

    9 comments say gt5 so far. 20 including my comment say forza is better. these are not counting replys.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000122436073 Collin Mckinney

    I played both GT5 and F3 well demo’s anyway. I owned GT3, GT4, GTPSP, and F2. And I believe that both games are on the same level. They have their strengths, and their weaknesses. I believe that GT outmatches Forza in different ways and Forza outmatches GT in different ways. Both games can learn from each other and become better console sim racers. But if you had to twist my hand and forced me to pick it would be GT5 because of my experience with the series. But both games are on the same level in my opinon. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000122436073 Collin Mckinney

    I played both GT5 and F3 well demo’s anyway. I owned GT3, GT4, GTPSP, and F2. And I believe that both games are on the same level. They have their strengths, and their weaknesses. I believe that GT outmatches Forza in different ways and Forza outmatches GT in different ways. Both games can learn from each other and become better console sim racers. But if you had to twist my hand and forced me to pick it would be GT5 because of my experience with the series. But both games are on the same level in my opinon. 

  • Irfanbhaskara

    First Of All.. GT5 Is NOT a RACING Game. I repeat, NOT a RACING GAME. It’s a DRIVING SIMULATOR. So, they simulate the driver in they’re own position as the Player. On the other hand. FM 3 is a RACING GAME. It’s a different genre. FM3 Is a disappointment to me.. Mostly coz i sucked at it. But it fails to simulate what’s really happening. So now i’m telling you. You can’t compare these two game. B’coz it’s totally 2 different Genre of games. 

  • Ivanltw

    My cousin bought forza3 than burn the whole console the moment he saw the gameplay…..the next day he bought a ps3 with gt5 and a halo start appearing on him..

    • Ivanltw

      true story…

  • Dksk5907

    Gt5 blows

  • Kierandinsdale

    I am a touring car driver and i can easily say that GT5 is the most realistic this is because it is a sim and not a game, but because it is more realistic i would choose GT5 over F4 any day, the only down side to GT5 is that the standard cars dont have a detailed interior but i have heard that the are putting out an update so that all of the cars will have a interior.

    • Cracker

      I agree. I am also a professional Superbike rider and part time car racer. Gt5 is more realistic.

    • Paul Roche850

      yes stand ed cars now have simplererfied  cop pit views im saving up it now also have an new track and car pack including in door cart track