Call of Duty: Black Ops Vs Modern Warfare 2 (MW2) – Which is better game?

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It has been a good few days since Treyarch finally released Call of Duty: Black Ops onto the world stage, and after having a good period with the game, what are your general conclusions on it?

Yesterday, we ran a poll asking you if Black Ops was the ‘worst CoD game ever’ in light of the current problems which are plaguing the game at the moment, but now we’d like to get your opinions on the game compared to Infinity Ward’s Modern Warfare 2.

We received some criticism yesterday for calling Modern Warfare 2 a ‘great game’, but we still stand by our initial word. However, you may think differently of course. After playing Black Ops enough to give a comparison on the game, do you think it is better than Modern Warfare 2 overall, or does it not come close?

We’ve already read a few user comments from you stating that Black Ops is the better game, but we’re gonna run another poll to make things semi-official. If you believe that MW2 is still better than Black Ops, state your reasons below.

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  • Pur3n00dl3s

    black ops has zombieez

  • Pur3n00dl3s

    black ops has zombieez

  • stacy marie

    black ops is wayyyyyy better..mw2 is good but not as good as black ops

    • Honey11168

      u r right

  • Niels Schmitz

    by the way you dont know wich game is better it’s your choos the first person loves MW2 and the other loves black ops soooo…..

    all those threads are your own experians

  • Skatersiard

    mw2 is beast. black ops is ok but mw2 is better hands down

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dustin-Randall/100000590230476 Dustin Randall

    Well here’s what I think….
    Campaign:Well Black Ops does have a good campaign but then, MW2 has a even better one and its way longer so i’ll give that one to MW2.
    Zombies:Well Black Ops is the only one with zombies so hands down MW2 is better…JK Black Ops.
    Multiplayer: Here’s the big one, so in MW2, you rank up and you unlock the guns but you have to unlock attachments which is way hard if your not skilled, but with Black Ops,you get to buy them off the bat and it doesn’t take that long to get the money for them so Black Ops wins Part 1. Multiplayer Gameplay: Definetly MW2 because in MW2 if you shoot some one THERE SHOT but in Black Ops. sometimes, and this has happened to me, you will shoot someone and then theres no hit marker and BTW theres a lot of sniper hitmarkers but in MW2 they don,t have that problem so MW2 wins part 2. Multiplayer Maps: I gotta say there both = in maps and areas to play so tie for part 3. Gameplay Quality: I always thought Black Ops had a way good quality but then i played MW2 and it had about the same quality but a little suckish. In this fight, I think Black Ops only beats it by a little, but then again that doesn’t mean MW2 isn’t good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dustin-Randall/100000590230476 Dustin Randall

    Well here’s what I think….
    Campaign:Well Black Ops does have a good campaign but then, MW2 has a even better one and its way longer so i’ll give that one to MW2.
    Zombies:Well Black Ops is the only one with zombies so hands down MW2 is better…JK Black Ops.
    Multiplayer: Here’s the big one, so in MW2, you rank up and you unlock the guns but you have to unlock attachments which is way hard if your not skilled, but with Black Ops,you get to buy them off the bat and it doesn’t take that long to get the money for them so Black Ops wins Part 1. Multiplayer Gameplay: Definetly MW2 because in MW2 if you shoot some one THERE SHOT but in Black Ops. sometimes, and this has happened to me, you will shoot someone and then theres no hit marker and BTW theres a lot of sniper hitmarkers but in MW2 they don,t have that problem so MW2 wins part 2. Multiplayer Maps: I gotta say there both = in maps and areas to play so tie for part 3. Gameplay Quality: I always thought Black Ops had a way good quality but then i played MW2 and it had about the same quality but a little suckish. In this fight, I think Black Ops only beats it by a little, but then again that doesn’t mean MW2 isn’t good.

    • Niels Schmitz

      soo i realy like your comment. i want to buy mw2 our black ops…. soo i realy like multiplayer but a good single player is also 1 require thing for me…….

      by the makers of COD there are always problems our good SP our a good MP MW2 has a good SP and black ops has a good MP…………… am i right?

  • blaaaaa

    BLACK OPS IS WAY BETTER THAN MW2 BY MILES.

  • blaaaaa

    BO is better with the multiplayer maps because the DLC maps and the program is better but MW2 has better graphics but it gets really boring. If treyarch and infinity wardcould stop arguing and try to work together it would be the best game in the world.

    • SuperBAMF00

      If Treyarch and Infinity Ward worked together, they’d make an arcade-shooter style Battlefield (No, I am NOT hating on CoD) I like CoD because of it’s arcade run around slayin’ em style gameplay, but Battlefield is more strategic.

      Now, on to the actual article’s topic, I’m not sure which I like best. I love Black Ops’ game layout, but I wish they’d kept the perks the same as Modern Warfare 2. Black Ops has less over powered guns, which is nice, but I think (After playing Modern Warfare 2) it takes a little too long to kill someone. Then again, they ARE slower guns. They will take longer to kill. That’s what I think of online. Single player is REALLY hard to choose, because both have great stories. Black Ops is all about Alex’s previous and current life. In Modern Warfare 2, it does the same thing with Roach, Allen, etc, but in the end, everyone you play as eventually dies except for Soap. They brought CoD 3’s character jumps in, but didn’t do it as well. In B-Ops, it’s a little boring, but I think it took longer (Especially if you played on Veteran) but MW2’s story achievements were harder to get.  I’d have to say  Black Ops by a VERY small amount. They balanced the weapons more (Minus the occasional AK74u or Famas) and balanced previous problems (Noob tubing, lag, etc) by making secondary launchers don’t reload with Scavenger, nor do under barrels. I liked that they separated lethal grenades and claymores. I would say get whichever on preference. IF you like fast paced gameplay with not much challenge other than unlocking attachments, get MW2. If you like a bit slower, but a little harder game, get Black Ops.

  • Guest

    Modern Warfare definitly wins ….. why should you have to rank up…. then pay for a gun…… then buy attachments…… either just win money or experience not both. And last time i checked a dog can not kill you by jumping on you however an stealth bomber can tear you up

    • Daraw02

      Its better buying only the guns you play with and the attatchment without having to do extra stuff to get them like in moder warfare 2. In modern warfare 2 lets say you eant the heartbeat sensor. Youll have to first get the kills with the gun  to get the the grenade launcher to un lock the red dot to unlock the silincer then youll have to get the kills with the silencer just to get the heartbeat sinsor. Its easier just buy the attachments that you use. I dont have a problem with doing this I like both games.

    • Daraw02

      Its better buying only the guns you play with and the attatchment without having to do extra stuff to get them like in moder warfare 2. In modern warfare 2 lets say you eant the heartbeat sensor. Youll have to first get the kills with the gun  to get the the grenade launcher to un lock the red dot to unlock the silincer then youll have to get the kills with the silencer just to get the heartbeat sinsor. Its easier just buy the attachments that you use. I dont have a problem with doing this I like both games.

  • RED

    modern warfare 2 FTW

  • Commenter232232

    ok so this kind of tore mote in two.Graphics:MW2 wins easily in this case BO just good not good enough.Campain:BO wins.MW2 i just felt like there was something missing.Love the gallery(meuseum) though.Online:Srry Black Ops but your guns just suck.Like the currency though.MW2 was great online but BO maps were better and MW2 change to money system.Overall:MW2 just barely wins i found the game more filling but BO was a great game.

  • nyran125

    Its MW2 and Black Ops are still call of duty games… Counter strike owns all of them so… bla lol.

  • FRED

    WE LOVE YOU BLACK OPS WE DO WE LOVE YOU BLACK OPS WE DO!!!!!1

  • PSN: SkaterDudeJared

    I feel it all depends on what you are looking for in a game. Black Ops has a better selection of weapons and Attack Dogs is pretty cool. The graphics are much better in Modern Warfare 2 though. My Black Ops disc cracked a little over 2 months ago so I've been playing only Modern Warfare 2. The perk setup is much better than Modern Warfare 2 in Black Ops. Overall if you want a MODERN fps with better graphics then Modern Warfare is your game. If you don't mind playing a game set in the 60's and like extras like 'Zombies' and a big selection of weapons and attachments then Black Ops is your game.

  • nathanial

    mw2 sucks i have to say black ops is better by far because it doesnt matter about guns if u cant get kills it means u suck. Graphics dont matter either plus all modding warfail is is modding,hacking,camping,tubing,and flat out glitching.If u say black ops is worse because of lag well yeah it lags but mw2 is worse in lag switches and constantly being quick scoped. the only thing black ops is missing is commando.

  • MW2ftw

    Black Ops..

    1. The maps are too miniscule (I CAN'T SNIPE?!?!)
    2. Sniping is shit (still shit after 1.07)
    3. Graphics are..blerh
    4. Hit detection is trash (shot a guy first but he killed me)
    5. Zombies is okay, it's just that if the host quits, the entire lobby shuts down

  • TheLeGit$hit

    I would say I like Black Ops better, but only because blops gameplay relies more on gun/aiming skill. I do worse on mw2 because the maps are a lot less linear, more campy. To me, black ops feels more like cod4 than mw2. In both cod4 and blops, I could run around like an idiot and still have a high kdr, whereas if i did that on mw2, I would be food for campers on most maps (except terminal, cod4 map pack). However, mw2 does have superior graphics and runs on a superior engine, even though it is one year older than blops. To me, blops feels like the older game and mw2, the newer.

  • juan

    Is a tool of control both modern warfare games, more so Black ops. Why do you think they call it MOdern WareFAr, Its purpose it for harassem==ment adn conditioning of its players… heres my e-mail shoot me a line.
    4thlink@gmail.com send me a line dont shoot me.

  • awesome dude

    MW2 all the way. black ops graphics are blurry and just unrealistic. Where MW2 everything is great the graphics the guns the killstreaks. It also gives you a way better visual of actual war. i mean zombies aren't even real. its a joke. MW2 u got my vote

  • Ganjaman

    MW2 by a landslide. better guns, attachments, perks, gameplay, graphics, maps, oh and not to mention the fact that i never lag or take 10 minutes to find a match. I started with MW loved it moved to 2 loved it even more….played BO for a few days couldnt stand…..just how fucking dissappointing every match was…and how insignificant it was compared to MW2. And the challenge comes more out of playing MW2 simply because anyone who is decent at the game and actually enjoys it and the vast superiousness of MW2 abandons BO and moves back to MW2 making the pool of people playing, in my opinon…a step above the rest of the noob asses still stuck on BO most likely due to thier 12 year old buddy going DUDE BLACK OPS IS SO COOL DUDE HAVE4 YOUR MOM GO BUY IT FOR YOU SO WE CAN PKLAYYYYY!!!! Ide prefer a few decent players to challenge me versus a bunch of childrren….oh and also the knife perk….if you cant roll with the big dawgs whove learned to master the game and its perks, tough shit bro go play BO

  • didi

    black ops rubbish

  • mw #1

    i think that black ops was gonna be the best game ever but then i played and went back to mw2

    mw2 takes skill to play and that why its better than black ops

    but the only resson i play black ops is for zoimbes

    • MW2 all the way

      BLACK OPS FOR NOOBS

  • eddie

    i think mw2 is a better game i like the maps and the graphics better than black ops

  • DEVIL

    MW2 > BLACK OPS COD4 > BLACK OPS black ops is a bad game PERIOD!!!!!

  • miah

    pussy monster

  • http://deleted jake

    black ops neads goood graphics like mw2

  • PERSON

    these are arcade-like shooters. designed to be cinematic and accessible. Dont even fucking put call of duty and realism in the same sentence. Half the guns in both games are slag in real life. Just have fun for what they are and not what they lack. be glad that you can pretend to shoot people, rather than actually being in a place plunged in conflict.

  • MW2

    I kind of agree with the comment on top of me but MW2 IS WAY BETTER THAN BLACK OPS i hate it when they quickscope me but i still LOVE MW2

  • MW2 > BO

    MW2 is far more superior in graphics, perks, (Because who uses a tactical mask right?) maps(no BO map can compare to Highrise, Terminal, Favela, etc. basically all),killstreaks(Napalms suck ass, mortars are somewhat helpful, and Blackbirds are so overpowering. I'm complaining about this for the other team because me and my clan have had full games of endless blackbirds.) and guns(Compare any of the SMG's AR's or LMG's). Treyarch took all the fun out of not just quickscoping, but sniping in general. The only thing BO has is the ballistic knife and crossbow, which can be pretty fun to use, and wager matches but it's not much because those aren't the foundation for the best game experience. There's no debate on campers because it depends on the players and the lag depends on your internet and host. The best thing about BO is Zombies. That's it. And for people who would say I hate on the game because I suck, I'm actually better at Black Ops, but Modern Warfare 2 is just way funner. Overall MW2 takes a shit on Black Ops and it has diharrhea.

  • Common Sense

    Best Graphics: Modern Warfare 2
    Best Sound: Modern Warfare 2
    Least Lag: Modern Warfare 2
    Smoothest Framerate: Modern Warfare 2
    Best Gameplay: Modern Warfare 2

    I see a lot of you complaining about MW2 being worse because of hacks?

    You sound like Macintosh fans saying that Apple is better than PC because there are less viruses… stupid.

    Hey everyone lets ignore every feature and quality in a game and instead judge it by some insignificant thing like how many cheaters there are.

    • MW2FTW!!!

      lol or it's like saying MP3's are better than Ipods because you can't jailbreak it =P
      MW2 FTW!!!!!!!!

  • MW2 Easy WIn

    Numbers dont lie, almost 2/3 of gamers agree that MW2 is better.

    And those that dont are just in denial that they spent over 60 dollars on a pile of garbage.

  • Itelligent Person

    All I hear the Black Ops supporters use is bit**ing about glitches, hacks, and nukes in MW2.

    So what, that means a game with extremely terrible lag, horribly laughable graphics, limited system, terrible gameplay, childish sound effects, extremely limited goals, is better because there is support for glitches? Wow you guys arent very smart.

    EVERY single person I know on X Box live and real life bought Black Ops Midnite release and within ONE WEEK permanentally went back to Modern Warfare 2, why? Because Black Ops is an extremely terrible game.

    MW2 had solid player numbers from the day it came out, even today after 50% still play it. Not 1 month after the release of Black Ops, more than 70% of players stopped playing, how do you explain that? If black ops is SOOO good, how come the average 3 Mil players went down to less than 800k in less than one month.

    The truth is, Black Ops sold on the back of IW work, and Treyarch took advantage of the amazing game MW2 and now they are taking credit for selling us the equivalent of Matrix Reloaded.

  • hari

    Call of duty Modernwarfare 2

    * Have great graphics
    * Interesting game play
    * Not having a good story
    * Good sound quality and textures
    *Good wepons
    Call of duty blackops
    *Have good graphics(with good graphics card.Without a high quality graphics crad graphics will be bad.Try nvidia Gts 250 or better for an average graphics)
    *Good story.(Call of duty Modernwarfare 2did not have a good story )
    *Based on a real story
    *Bad textures

  • MW2 Nuker

    ok so many people think black ops is better some think modern warfare two is better but honestly i think call of duty modern warfare two is better. i have played black ops a lot over at my friends house but i can't stand how the graphics for blacks ops are. i bet i could make a better game (sorry black ops creators) i think they are both wonderful games but modern warfare two that's final!

  • mkm

    modern warefare II story is better than black ops, but texture and models is best or better than mw II.

  • haters suck

    youre all just some freaking haters graphic are really good on both if you didnt have an hdmi cable for mw2 it will be some bad graphics, if you get an hdmi cable fore black ops or not the graphics are still good, the only thnk idislike about black ops is that they got the famas all wrong.mw2 sucks move on to a better game

  • Joe

    Right! All of you people saying mw2 is better than black ops and black ops is better than mw2 just stop. It's nothing to start a war about I loved mw2 when it was out and now black ops is out I moved and now I love black ops and the same with mw2 I don't even have the other cods but my bro did and sold them to get it on xbox and when I do play on other cods I'll play on them to. Why can't you all stop being stupid and like all the cods equally!

  • michael

    lol black ops is the best jeh mw2 or waw suck

  • A. nero

    mw2 has too many hackers and it makes the game boring black ops has less hackers. plus mw2 has more noobs and mw2 has more maps that people can camp on. black ops maps are more open and you need more skill even if u r noobtubing

  • hall

    Like these people have said black ops only sucks because you can't cheat fuck you you fucking losers

  • Kmar10

    MW2 Is Much Better!! I'm getting it for my Bday in like 5 days and i bought MW2 and Halo Reach instead of buying Halo Reach and Black Ops. Treyarch sucked at WaW and they still suck. All My Friends said MW2 Is Better and I AGREE!!! BLAck ops sucKS!!!

    • death maker123

      well i think that black ops is best in zomby mode but I have to go with bolth=/and black ops is ok and mw2 is a smig better

  • I Hate Ur Face2

    Well they both suck. Far to many people for the servers to keep up. over 700,000 people playing. That will bog down any server. Glitches and the perks make it easy for the the beginner to whoop your ass. I am a good player like the games and like to strategies that these game can provide. However to many time I re spawn right in front of any enemy, which means these maps are to small. And I get the I shot you first but somehow you turn around and kill me method. To be honest Battle Field 2 is much better and has more realism than a guy knifing you 20 feet away, not to mention the vehicle to get to operate. COD black ops can be fun, but to bad its a mainstream product and to many cheaters and kids will be on it to ruin the experience thanks f@%#$ers.!!!!!

  • ……

    i say mw2 because you can actually snipe…. and knife… lag is gay…. dropshoters should die camping is gay and its too easy to shoot down the air support and the only good thing about black ops is its campaign zombies and combat training (is kinda gay cuz the bots have aim assist and always know where u spawn) spawning sucks maps suck and who cares about people who knife? what r u suppost to do not knife people that are right in front of you and spray then so theres another reason to complain? and only people who r gay will glitch mod an hack… oh and the mp5k wasnt around in the Vietnam war. guns r over powered and none of the guns have recoil.

  • red9For LEON

    Its easy to see that that one game is not better than another. It all depends on the player. If you are a good player who enjoys a balanced game but still likes a little competition from players of an equal level, then you like black ops. If your a complete noob who enjoys noob tubing infinitely, teleport knifing, random sprays from across the map, overpowered perks and weapons, being beaten by kids who have just started playing yesterday, being sniped with smgs, being shotguned with sniper rifles, and huge gay male sex orgies, then MW2 is your game you retarded cock sucking six year old.

  • http://yahoo.com jad

    MW2 voices online "ENEMY AC 130 is here!!!!!!" or "THE BOMB HAS BEEEN PLANTEDD!!"
    Black ops "bomb …. planted" "enemy spy plane is up" k F that Shit i wanna play online it has to be an all out war not a robot talking. MW2 online yes i said online is better but Black ops campaign is cooler and Zombie feature. So plz COD franshise stick to Infinityward caz graphic wise and sound wise even playing wise is better online.

  • Joe Bag

    Black Ops' Nerfed Noobtubes and less campers + MW2 Maps, unlock system, maps, camos, sounds, graphics = Best FPS in the world.

  • http://nathin.com Sin

    hey ahh man iv been wondering and plzzz answer me whos better codmw2 or cod bo .. plz answer me ill be here every day cuz i dont want to buy i suky game and thx all

  • Spanky

    Black Ops owns MW2. There are too many boosting and camping in MW2. They have fixed this in Black Ops. You can camp but usually don't win by camping. They took the tactical insertion out of free for all. The game is less glitchy with less cheating. The only people who like MW2 better are campers or cheaters.

  • Jonathan Wallace

    MW2 Cons

    1. BOOSTING. It is way too easy to boost to a nuke. Its usually easy to stop, but often times they get away with it before its too late. Or they are boosting in enemy territory and you can't easily get over there to stop them.

    2. Heartbeat Sensor
    -ninja? wtf? You are saying to counter the unrealistic attachment, I have to give up perks and use NINJA? Which itself is unrealistic?
    -Promotes CAMPING.

    3. Danger Close
    -An explosion is an explosion. What adding this perk packs more pounds of C4 into a…C4? What? Adds more semtex to your semtex? Increases the size of missiles? Huh? Yeah? Sure it does….sure it does…
    -Most launchers in the game have pretty large explosions already…the RPG and javelin do work, but add danger close onto it and its absurd. I mean, just stupid. Don't tell me you've never watched a killcam of either an RPG, tube, semtex, claymore…ANYTHING that explodes killing you from incredibly far away. All thanks to this unrealistic, unbalanced, noobish, perk.

    4. Stopping Power
    -A bullet is a bullet, stopping power makes no sense whatsoever.
    -You say Black Ops' weapons are "under powered" try using most MW2 guns without stopping power…

    5. One Man Army
    -unlimited ammo, grenades, claymores, ammo, everything
    -gives you access to ALL guns. Sure in that little package you can pack several sniper rifles, assault rifles, sub machine guns, RPGs, claymores, grenades, hottdogs, marshmellows, sleepin' bag, portable tv with dvd player…and so on…
    -allows you to play two claymores without even getting kills
    -allows you to place claymores and then use frags or semtex
    -lets you switch from a danger close class to a cold blooded class as soon as enemies get killstreaks
    -encourages camping, it replaces marathon
    -people in this forum tell you to stop whining about campers, and just shoot them. How do you shoot a camper who is using one-man-army, danger close, noobtube, and killing you from across the map? You literally cannot see them to shoot them…there are kinda buildings in the way you idiots. IF you can get over there through the entire enemy team to kill them, you have to get passed the two claymores they've set AND hope they don't just noob tube you as soon as you find them. Good luck MW2 lovers.
    This perk is completely and utterly unrealistic and unbalancing.

    6. Scavenger
    -gives you unlimited ammo, grenades, claymores…
    -picks up ammo, grenades, claymores, RPGs, regardless of whether or not the enemy you killed was using one of those
    Again, unrealistic.

    7. Noob Tube
    -when using either scavenger or one man army you have an unlimited supply. You can literally win games, get all killstreaks, get the nuke, without ever firing your weapon

    8. Commando Perk. I've spawn killed entire teams, and gotten up to my chopper to get my nuke, just by using this perk with lightweight, marathon, and tac knife. With commando you lunge SOOOO FAR. Its so unbalanced. Unless you know I'm coming, I WILL KILL YOU.

    9. Hacked Lobbies
    -unlimited clip lobbies
    –AC130 fully automatic big boom shot-smoke literally filled the ENTIRE MAP
    -crazy fast running lobby
    -nukes in carepackages lobby..

    10. Hacked weapons
    -weapons with attatchments that don't exist…lazer pointers

    • Jonathan Wallace

      11. Glitches
      -Javelin Glitch, whenever you died with the javelin you EXPLODED. If someone with a javelin was too close to you, you could either stab/shoot them and die in the explosion, OR choose not to kill them and let them stab you. This glitch took at least a month to be fixed (on 360).
      -Unlimited care package/emergency air drop glitch. Constant air support for those gay enough to take advantage of the glitch.
      -Elevators. Let you run around outside the map, or hovering way above you, sniping.
      Has there been anything remotely similar in Black Ops? NO THERE HASN'T.

      12. Patches to fix glitches took weeks to months to be released.

      13. After months some glitches still NOT FIXED

      14. Unbalanced Maps
      -certain territories much easier to defend than others.
      -some maps almost REQUIRE you to use a sniper, which encourages entire teams to camp with their snipers…

      15. Unbalanced Weapons
      -sniping with SILENCED UMP and even P90 (though UMP was much better) across the map. I can easily use these guns to kill at close, medium, and long distance. Should not be possible.
      -ACR, SCAR, EBR no recoil
      -blast radius for RPG, Javelin, most explosives WAY to large
      -Crazy range on shotguns, models (still pretty crazy even after the patch), and the spaz
      -machine pistols….raffica aka "mini handheld dual M16s"

      16. Shotguns as secondary. I don't know why they let you do this in MW2 while you couldn't in MW1 but you shouldn't be able to carry a shotgun as well as your primary…

      17. Overpowered Killstreaks.
      -Chopper Gunners and AC130's allow MASSIVE SPAWN KILLING. Sure you can shoot them down while using coldblooded. But all too often you die IMMEDIETELY. No chance to switch to the stinger, lock on, and shoot them regardless of your cold-blooded perk.

      18. Lack of Perks
      -nothing to counter nube tubes (blast shield does NOT counter anything nor is it worth it, impaired vision, takes away radar, has to be activated, takes place of equipment, and you will still get killed by danger close nube toobs)

      19. Nuke
      -ends the game, turns all modes (CTF, DOMINATION…) into deathmatch
      -games ending in under a minute
      -turned games into the great nuke race
      -Encourages BOOSTING.
      -We've all been in a game where someone got a lucky multi-kill in the beginning that either put them straight into a predators or harrier, which sometimes got them an easy nuke. That is just unfair, not to mention unbalanced and flat out gay.
      spawn killing at beginning w/ noob tube

      20. Stinger's NOT SHOOTING DOWN KILLSTREAKS, three consecutive shots going through air support not damaging them
      -I was once killed by a stinger missile that went straight through a harrier and continued down to the ground to kill me.

      21. Being pulled into private matches while in matchmaking
      -groundwar on rust…this sort of thing lasted for months…

      22. Hacked leaderboards….Sure its in black ops too, but on MW2 hundreds of thousands of spots are hacked. Stupid.

      23. Killstreak kills count towards killstreaks
      -makes getting ANY KILLSTREAK WAY TOO EASY, INCLUDING THE NUKE.
      -Encourages camping
      -Even if you get your first killstreak legit (no one man army danger close tubing) you still can use that ONE killstreak to get all others.

      24. Hiding in a corner with one man army riot shield and C4 or a throwing knife.
      Riot shield-makes you invulnerable to gunfire. Will never ever break.

      25. You can use one-man-army with danger close and a noobtube and get a nuke within several minutes of the start of a game WITHOUT EVER BEING SEEN BY THE ENEMY OR PERSONALLY SEEING AN ENEMY OR SHOOTING YOUR GUN!

      The worst part about Modern Warfare 2 was not the hacks or glitches, but the uncomparably unbalanced online gameplay. Just go into a game and listen to all the nube tubes. Count how many killcams you watch of someone switching classes with one man army, then tubing you from across the map.

      • Jonathan Wallace

        MW2 Pros

        Graphics. Though the graphics aren't THAT much better to make up for the absurdly unbalanced gameplay.

        Sounds (not really a pro cause its more of an opinion, i like the sounds of both)

        Intensity? Lots of people say this about MW2, but the only reason i think this game was more intense, was due to the frustration level of all the game's absurdities, and because of the race to get nukes.

        • Jonathan Wallace

          Black Ops Cons

          1. RC Cars (though you can use flak jacket, or just shoot them)

          2. Can't run through claymores (though unless you get a resupply in a care package you only get one claymore a life, unlike MW2's one man army gayness)

          3. Motion Sensor-it encourages camping but having hacker perk counters it.

          4. Getting pro perks is stupid (but still not that big of a deal)

          5. Stabbing System -very inconsistent but at least not overpowered like MW2's lightweight, marathon, commando, tactical knife combo

          6. Attack Dogs? So many people on here complain about attack dog being overpowered. But really? I've used them before and got anywhere from ZERO to twenty or more kills. Whats the difference? The intelligence or experience of the enemy team. All you have to do is kill them, or get to ground where they can't get to you. If they kill you anyways, hey I mean whoever got the dogs deserves it. They got ELEVEN KILLS without dying WITHOUT KILLSTREAKS to get them there.

          Nearly EVERY negative thing about black ops has something to counter it. Claymores and motion sensors can be pretty gay, but you can use flak jacket or hacker against claymores, or just hacker against motion sensor. Sure there are still noob tubes and RC cars, but hey you can use flak jacket without hampering your own ability to kill.

          Black ops Pros

          Played since game's release, still never been into a hacked lobby, or seen any MW2 glitches/hacks like the javelin glitch, care package glitch. I've barely seen any legit cheating whatsoever, while in Modern Warefare 2 I would experience some sort of cheating nearly every day I played.

          Hacks in general much less common

          Bugs, and hacks fixed quickly

          Game designers LISTEN to players and QUICKLY act to fix things

          Balanced perks
          -flak jacket, sure there is still tubing on Black Ops, but now you can fight it…

          Can no longer have unlimited noob tubes or claymores.

          Can no longer have both nube toob AND another weapon attatchment.

          Can no longer get multi kills with noob tubes from across the map at the beginning of games.

          Has a reporting system where you can quickly and easily report players for cheating or boosting.

          Requires much more skill to do well. Instead of getting 4-5 kills on MW2 that lead to your chopper/AC130 or even nuke, you must continue to personally get kills in order to get killstreaks.

          Zombies, Wagermatch. Hey and if you don't like either one, MW2 still doesn't have it.

          Money system. It makes much more sense to be able to unlock attatchments in the order of your choosing.

          Tactical Insertion made easier to spot and HEAR. Sure it doesn't belong in the game, but its better than MW2's version of it.

        • Jonathan Wallace

          Both MW2 and Black Ops

          Noob Tubes. Exists in all COD games and I believe should be removed entirely, for in real life its not commonly used…and even if it was, it hinders fairness and happy, fair gameplay. But AGAIN at least Black Ops took measures to prevent there misuse.

          Camping. This exists in every shooter game ever made. Though I personally believe that there is LESS of it in Black Ops due to the absence of heartbeat sensors, nukes, killstreaks counting towards killstreaks, and one-man-army.

          Host migration and lag. I'm not proud to say that I've no-lifed both MW2 and Black Ops. Both games have about the same amount of lag and host migration problems.

          Quick scoping/hip firing sniper rifles….this is in both games and is unbelievably unrealistic. In real life its unrealistic to fire a sniper rifle like the barret standing up much less while running around like an idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2S7IqrVLHY&NR… how massive that gun is. Do you honestly think its realistic to quick scope someone with this gun much less hip fire? You…WILL…..MISS.

          Spawn killing/dying-Both games have this, both games try and solve it, yet it will happen in every COD game no matter what. It was much worse in MW2 simply due to nube toobs, and how common killstreaks like chopper and AC130 are in the air.

          Tactical Insertions. Both games have it, doesn't make any sense, but at least Black Ops made it easier to see.

          Small map ridiculousness. Sure Black Ops' Nuketown is a bit stupid sometimes, but so is the map, Rust on MW2 and similar tiny maps on MW1. They are in every game. Get over it.

          In the end looking at this list and playing both games WAY TOO MUCH, Black Ops wins hands down. Just try and argue with all these points I've made against Modern Warfare 2. Just try. I'd love to win the argument.

        • Jonathan Wallace

          So in case you don't want to read everything I posted, just know without a doubt that Black Ops is by far better than Modern Warfare 2

  • Jonathan Wallace

    MW2 Cons

    1. BOOSTING. It is way too easy to boost to a nuke. Its usually easy to stop, but often times they get away with it before its too late. Or they are boosting in enemy territory and you can't easily get over there to stop them.

    2. Heartbeat Sensor
    -ninja? wtf? You are saying to counter the unrealistic attachment, I have to give up perks and use NINJA? Which itself is unrealistic?
    -Promotes CAMPING.

    3. Danger Close
    -An explosion is an explosion. What adding this perk packs more pounds of C4 into a…C4? What? Adds more semtex to your semtex? Increases the size of missiles? Huh? Yeah? Sure it does….sure it does…
    -Most launchers in the game have pretty large explosions already…the RPG and javelin do work, but add danger close onto it and its absurd. I mean, just stupid. Don't tell me you've never watched a killcam of either an RPG, tube, semtex, claymore…ANYTHING that explodes killing you from incredibly far away. All thanks to this unrealistic, unbalanced, noobish, perk.

    4. Stopping Power
    -A bullet is a bullet, stopping power makes no sense whatsoever.
    -You say Black Ops' weapons are "under powered" try using most MW2 guns without stopping power…

    5. One Man Army
    -unlimited ammo, grenades, claymores, ammo, everything
    -gives you access to ALL guns. Sure in that little package you can pack several sniper rifles, assault rifles, sub machine guns, RPGs, claymores, grenades, hottdogs, marshmellows, sleepin' bag, portable tv with dvd player…and so on…
    -allows you to play two claymores without even getting kills
    -allows you to place claymores and then use frags or semtex
    -lets you switch from a danger close class to a cold blooded class as soon as enemies get killstreaks
    -encourages camping, it replaces marathon
    -people in this forum tell you to stop whining about campers, and just shoot them. How do you shoot a camper who is using one-man-army, danger close, noobtube, and killing you from across the map? You literally cannot see them to shoot them…there are kinda buildings in the way you idiots. IF you can get over there through the entire enemy team to kill them, you have to get passed the two claymores they've set AND hope they don't just noob tube you as soon as you find them. Good luck MW2 lovers.
    This perk is completely and utterly unrealistic and unbalancing.

    6. Scavenger
    -gives you unlimited ammo, grenades, claymores…
    -picks up ammo, grenades, claymores, RPGs, regardless of whether or not the enemy you killed was using one of those
    Again, unrealistic.

    7. Noob Tube
    -when using either scavenger or one man army you have an unlimited supply. You can literally win games, get all killstreaks, get the nuke, without ever firing your weapon

    8. Commando Perk. I've spawn killed entire teams, and gotten up to my chopper to get my nuke, just by using this perk with lightweight, marathon, and tac knife. With commando you lunge SOOOO FAR. Its so unbalanced. Unless you know I'm coming, I WILL KILL YOU.

    9. Hacked Lobbies
    -unlimited clip lobbies
    –AC130 fully automatic big boom shot-smoke literally filled the ENTIRE MAP
    -crazy fast running lobby
    -nukes in carepackages lobby..

    10. Hacked weapons
    -weapons with attatchments that don't exist…lazer pointers

  • lol

    black ops just wins hands-down.

  • dagaoscura

    all the way with MW2

  • jaime jimenez

    Mw2 is king,superior ,the big enchilada ,al[ha and omega , cod is not a bad game but its not as good aS mw2,FACT – it is easier to have some thing good that is already made like MW2 ,and copy it and try to make it better ,..but for some reason as much as they copied a good existing game and tried to improve it ,they did a horrible job. cod is still a good game but thats because they copied mw2.if not i garuntee u this game would have sucked that much more.infinity ward got a bag of flour and baked a good cake,,,,treyarch borrowed the cake in an atempt to fix it -make better and ended up ruining it ,,totaly took away thewhipped cream, treyarch needs to step back and let infinityward how them how not to just make a good cake better but how to make it from scratch….MW2 rules …MW3 should only be touched infinityward, please …………

  • Italianswag

    modern warfare 2 is way better. Theyre are little places to camp, better guns and better killstreaks. Black ops has wayyy to many campers everywhere and the gaymores are annoying as hell. Also the maps in BO suck. IW make MW#