Killzone 2: Should Sony PS3 developers change expectations

Competition (and lazyness) is the fuel for innovation. Along with money and greed.

So the answer to your question is “yes”. Developers will be able to see what really is capable and attempt to mimic this.

I’m a long time Xbox 360 owner and bought a PS3 two weeks ago because of Killzone 2. While I have little doubt that Killzone 2 will set the new bar for shooters and videogames in general, the sales will be the ultimate factor in convincing other PS3 developers to put as much time and effort into their games as Guerilla did with Killzone 2. There is absolutely no excuse for Killzone 2 to not match the sales of Gears of War 2. In order for Killzone 2 to be viewed as a success, it absolutely must sell AT LEAST one million copies on day one. Killzone is an older franchise than Gears of War and should already have a larger install base off the bat than the original Gears of War. Sony must do EVERYTHING it possibly can to market Killzone 2 and hype it. The two or three reviews that have been leaked indicate that Killzone 2 is the real deal. Sony must put its best efforts behind this game. If Killzone 2′s sales don’t reach the 2 million mark within the first couple of weeks it could almost be deemed as a flop, and developers will have no reason to work so hard for a console that can’t sell millions of its flagship title.

studios are greedy now,its all about the money.unless the ps3 gets a price cut and boosts install base then devs will still make multi plat games.if studios made games to push the bar then the 360 and wii wouldn`t be touched.shame its all about money cause they could make amazing games just for high end pc n ps3 n just make less profits but the games would be better.

P.S. I think it’s a huge marketing mistake for Sony to release a demo of Killzone 2 before its release, or ever, period. As a gamer I can’t wait to try the demo but from a sales perspective I think Sony will lose sales that will be generated out of pure curiosity and by the mystique of what is supposed to be the best-looking, most technically advanced shooter on the market that’s going to show off what the PS3 is truly made of. A lot of PS3 owners who aren’t real fans of Killzone or the genre will be willing to spend $60 just to get a taste of Killzone 2, for the same reason that a large portion of PS3 owners bought the PS3- for bragging rights that they own the bleeding-edge product, even if they don’t particularly care for it. I think part of Gears of War’s success is due to its mystique. Epic released tons of gameplay footage that looked amazing and people just wanted their hands on the game, and the only way they could do that is by buying it.

Killzone 2 has been over 4 years in development, with huge amounts of resources behind it. Hence it should raise the bar for consoles FPSs for that reason alone.

Of course, setting the bar higher gives others something to aim towards, but let’s not get carried away by implying other devs are lazy for not reaching that bar, because that’s unfair and unjustified, or assume that it sets the PS3 apart from the 360 in terms of power (since both consoles are similar in this respect).

That said, I do look forward to the release of Killzone 2.

I really was not trying at all to call developers lazy. Some have not taken the time fully learn what the PS3 is capable and it’s hard to blame them. They have a business to run so they have to release the game before it is fully optimized.

If you have a enough time and money, you can get an awesome game. This what Guerilla was able to do. Sony was backing this game.

I don’t think that it will sell 1Million the first day but It should definitely sell that much in a month, at least. A lot of people are into this game. I know three people at work that are going to get it.

I am going to buy day one, but I might play until a few weeks later. i am working on my 10K for R2.

Give any game that budget, sliding deadline, resources and support from the platform holder and it will look as good.

Developers are NOT lazy, they are pushed for resources. Not every game can be Killzone 2 in regards to graphics or scope.

Do you ever write your own articles? Change a few words, re-arrange a few sentences and you post someone else’s work. Here’s the original article text:

“Killzone 2 is only about a month away from launch here in the U.S. and has already made an enormous amount of buzz around the internet. People cannot wait to get their hands on the game that is supposed to finally show the true power of the PS3. With this new found power that Guerrila Games has managed to grasp from the system, I ask developers: Is it time to change your expectations of the PS3?

We all knew the system was powerful, but nothing truely set it apart from the XBOX 360 as for gameplay it self. We had a mere glimpse at the power with MGS4 but it still never made the PS3 a more powerful system. Now with Killzone 2, things may begin to change. They have managed to raise the bar on the graphical and physical design of a game developed for the PS3. Developers will begin to see what Guerrila has managed to achieve and will strive to do just the same if not better. As we move into 2009 will we finally begin to see a difference between the 360 and PS3? Or is Killzone one of its kind?”

when i try to add my m8 in game in call duty worl at war on ps3, i get message saying my playlist is more updated than theirs, i wont be able to play them till they update their playlist, do u have ne idea how he updates this?

From your comments….”Other developers will be able to see what Guerrila Games have done, and will aim to do the same, if not better.
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After more than 4 years in development and over $100 million spent, it should be obvious what the real trend in PS3 titles has become. Sony, which owns guerilla, will spend and lose tons of money for games in the hope of justifying their expensive Blu-Ray/Cell Trojan horse. Other game developers need to make money on the games they produce, so everyone will get more of the same glitchy, sub-360 versions of titles released on both consoles.

PS3 is slowly killing the greatest brand in gaming history, and taking Sony down with it. Sony needs to throw in the towel and launch PS4 ASAP!

@Drunken

If you want you saying has any merrit. What would be the point of release the PS4 when they have not figuered how to correct the issues with the PS3.

You make now sense what so ever. What will the PS4 bring to the table to correct the PS3 issues. A New SDK? More standard Hardware?

The PS4 will most like have a similar architecture to the PS3. Meaning that (if rumors are true) it will have either two or four CELL Processors with about 4GB of RAM and a kick a$$ video card.

The SDK will be very similar to what developers are using now. If not better.

These are just my guess as to what the PS4 should have.

why worry about sales personally i also have both frankly the game is not score by sales the ps3 is wayyyyy better sys then anything in the market right now but the final call is up to developers not sony or ms fanboy just don’t get it since the begining they said that ps3 will come out to shine and 360 fanboys all they talk was about specs and how the xbox unified memory the truth is here and is way different verdict as far as gears i also own both part 1and 2 ,not to be compared but graphics gears don’t have nothing on killzone2 or any other exclusive thats coming out and for the records alan wake has nothing on killzone2 heavy rain is waiting ask any developers now rage,red faction ,etc developers are saying that 360 has thats so call gpu MAXXED and have to change version stop makkig the 360 bigger than what it is

I wish I had a PS3 to play Killzone 2, but I have decided to stick with my PC (mostly for the controls, and because I like being able to upgrade when I feel like it, and I also like the snobbish feeling of having more power in my gpu alone than the entire PS3 or Xbox 360).

But, like others have said, Killzone 2 will shine because of its excellent backing and resources. Sony probably hasn’t made a mistake by spending so much because one major title can become a real system mover if it shows off the system’s capabilities. Gears of War did wonders for the 360 because it showed that the system had balls.

Anyway, I wouldn’t get to ahead of yourselves by claiming that Killzone 2 will raise the bar for all shooters, etc. It’ll probably be a great game, by I think Crysis and Crysis Warhead are already ahead of whatever Killzone 2 will offer in terms of technical performance (I’m talking overall graphics, physics, etc.). If you’ve ever seen Crysis Warhead cranked up with some settings on enthusiast, then you’ll know what I mean. Really, what sets Crysis games apart are their physics and the realism of the individual soldiers, which are unbelievable. The jungle settings are cool, but seriously, taking entire buildings apart piece by piece. If they can do that in Killzone 2, then maybe I’ll be a believer. /end_PC_Snobbism

@pcnob crysis and killzone2 are total different games but now that you mentioned i get the filling that you are a crysis and pc fanboy but personaly i think that killzone will be more fun than crysis. further more crysis is overhyped as far as consoles the bar has been lifted by the developers taking advantage of ps3 unique architecture something that 360 with all the balls that has cant handle killzone 2 do to slow processing that right slow processing this also apply to high end pc including my so my post is a fact ps3 or say sony doesn’t need to claim anything the best graphical games are all sony exclusive, i also own a 360 with 24 games including gears 1,2 but i’m not going to say that because the online on 360 is better that the in the graphics too answer NO. people (FANBOYS) often say that in compared multicross the 360 has better graphics or gpu chip poor developments have lead to fanboys to believe that 360 hardware is better NO and NO as for the part you said believe in killzone2 nobody its implying that you should

Take a writing class. Your writing is mostly incoherent.

You, obviously, are a PS3 fanboy. I, on the other hand, think the PS3 is an awesome system, but I’m not going to exaggerate Killzone 2. It’ll be a great game, but I’ve already watched gameplay footage, and it’s already behind what’s available on the PC. Sorry, but your precious PS3 with it’s gpu that is the equivalent of a geForce 7950 (or thereabouts) is not going to touch the processing power of the PC. We’ve already had the 8800, 9800, GTX 260/280, and GTX 285/295 cards come in since the 7950 (which is about the gpu power that your precious console has). Not to mention, you have 512 MB Ram total in a PS3, compared to a typical gaming machine with 4GB+ system RAM and 512MB to 1GB video RAM.

personally killzone2 has a league of their own and maybe just maybe developers will start working hard to reach a higher level so us gamers will continue to experience on which ever console you own great games graphics,gameplay as far of sales i think that sony schooled big ms last time now this time around 360 has had full year to their benefit with out comp now yes ms is ahead but i don’t think ms can afford another cut after custum new jasper chip so eventually sony will pull it off remember the race just getting started and ms has suffer lot of issues can he still do it we’ll see but definitely killzone2 will sell ps3 lots of ps3

{@pcknob]

I see that you’ve posted a comment towards Bandolero about your pc specs, frankly you’ve misunderstood his point. The point about Killzone is thats it’s on a league of its own and guerrilla has lifted the bar for FPS and your point is that pcs are way stronger and have a better GPU than the PS3. You have one of those right which is GPU, the other one about your CPU is inferior to the cell processor in every way. You posted your specs without taking inconsideration that pcs have more available RAM as well as better cards. Now the cell processor assists RSX for graphics rendering. N.E ways, i don’t think bandolero wants to know your specs and neither do I. Last thing, with all the mighty specs you have. your pc can’t handle Killzone. It’s like this, short no cell processor, no Killzone2 and the 360 isnot more powerful than the PS3, [Take off your goggles!]

Cant u tell me why they created the game on 720p n not 1080p can someone tell me this cause i can smooth thats why .
why does sony create a game so big put cant create the game on 1080p.
25g game n 720p is the answer thats my question what happended there sony.