New Xbox 360 Game Needs 3 DVDs: PS3′s Blu-ray would do in one

PS3 rules, they just had mistimed start,
sony will sooon reign the consoles market, they offer the better quality, but xbox 360 is all about hype and so called AMERICAN PRODUCT,
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I have a 360 and if it’s not costing ME more money for those extra discs, then I really don’t see the drawback here. They can give me the game in 5 discs for all I care. This is an issue that Sony pointed out 2 years ago when comparing the 360 to the PS3 but nobody really cared and so 2 years later it’s funny that this article is bringing it up again, must be a slow time of the month at ProductReviews.

Wow, talk about a basic article…

Other games, such as ‘Lost Odessey’ have 4 discs and playing through that wasn’t a problem – it takes two seconds to change the disc and then you get another good couple of hours play. It’s certainly much better than waiting 10 minutes to ‘install’ the next part of the game story (Metal Gear Solid 4), which is no doubt what will be needed on the playstation version!

I personally don’t mind games being on more than 1 disc. I am getting a bit angry with companies because they seem so afraid to go beyond one disc. Look at the big releases on the Xbox 360 and tell me how many of them are on more than one disc. Halo 3, gears 1 and 2 for example. I don’t get it. They could easily put campeign on one disc and multiplayer on the other.

Just like with metal gear solid 4. If ever released on the 360 which it wont be they could put one act on a single DVD. PS3 users have to wait for an install between every act so switching a disc on the 360 should take less time in my opinion. The only reason the PS3 has installs is because of Blu-Ray anyway. The old DVD drive on the 360 is simply faster.

However I will concede that going beyond 5 DVD’s is impractical. With 400GB blu-ray discs on the horizon blu-ray is the only way to go in the future for console gaming. The drives do need to get faster though. 1TB is not far down the road either. I do feel that games becoming as large as they are downloading is goint to be impractical unless we switch to very large capacity ssd’s, say 3TB and and the internet needs to be much faster. I say the switch to SSD’s is important because the amount some gamers use their machines they would kill a hard drive in a couple of years.

Why would it bother Xbox 360 users to use DVD’s? Is having 3 DVD’s that big of a deal? The author of the opinion piece is either a Sony fan boy or someone with absolutely no knowledge of gaming. In the fast, multiple disks have been used and have never been a problem. I remember playing Final Fantasy 7 (what many consider the best Final Fantasy game ever) and it came on a bunch of disks. That didn’t bother anyone. Many thought that it was actually a positive as it gave them more of a feeling of accomplishment when they got through one.

The PS3 can have all the Blu Ray disk space they want but since the reader is only a 2X drive, the more you put onto the disk the more of the disk that will have to be loaded onto the hard drive to ensure the game will actually run properly.

This “article” is a joke.

you know, star ocean’s just a really really big game, dvd drives aren’t a problem yet, in fact, blu ray drives are still quite expensive, which would raise the 360′s low price

I’m totally fine with the dvd format. I get my HD movies streamed on Netflix. I’ve got my media center PC hooked up also. And if you remember, Playstation 1 had final fantasy VII on 3 discs and VIII on four. It’s not uncommon.

I’ve got a better selection of games on the 360, and five out of six of my best friends have a 360. The sixth is trading in his PS3 for a 360 after christmas.

And what about that rumour that MGS is coming to the 360? The PS3 owners can laugh all they want. I’ve got no use for bluray at this time. I can give Sony credit for creating it, manufacturing it, and making it cheaper though. They broke their shareholders backs doing it so we’ll be able to enjoy it in the next gen Xbox.

Must be living in another world. This is nothing new, Lost Odyessy had 4 discs and it came out early this year. Isn’t really anything new from last gen either. Multiple games had multiple discs I don’t really think that prevented anyone from buying those games. Also, since Star Ocean 4 is exclusively coming to the 360 it’s not like there really is another option.

Hmmmm switching a disk every 6 to 12 hours isnt a deal breaker. I would like to ask if PS3 players wish for DVD 9 because of its faster read times than games INSTALLED on the PS3 hard drive? So the 360 is a bit of a pain every 8 hours and the PS3 is a bit of a pain evey load screen. So it depends on where you look or what you choose to ignore. The Xbox 720 will put a end to the DVD 9 but maybe they will go with another format… maybe a ultra modern Nintendo type cartrage with built in memory and almost zero load times. Anything is possible when you get your mind around putting it all on one disk.

Oh cmon… switching disks is so not a problem, I didn’t care when playing FFVII on Playstation. People act like it’s a chronic issue to change a disc. Switching discs kind of gives me that nostalgic feeling, and can be used to guage how far through the game you’re getting through.

Plus Blu-Ray disc readers in the PS3 are still slow and not refined yet. Speed up disc reading and we have a conversation.

and… I still feel blu-ray is ahead of it’s time, since I happen to know a lot of XBox360 games still using a Standard definition television, who still feel DVD is amazing lol.

meh.. this commentary sounds like a Sony fanboy rant. Taking 5 seconds to change disks after hours of gameplay isn’t that big of a deal. No one ever complained when they had to do it with Final Fantasy and other rpgs. As long as the games are good, it won’t matter. I have to agree with an earlier post. My problem is gaming companies that feel required to cut content because they have to fit everything on one disk. That’s how really great games become crap and gamers get cheated that way.

Why would you want more than 1 disk it dont make no difference but if i had the option i would prefer a single disk esspecialy since disks aint indistructable but like most of you said who realy gives a f*c* about trivial things like how many disks

Final Fantasy VII and Shenmue II are some of the best games I’ve ever played and they both used 4 CDs/GDs.

the reason why companies care about fitting games on less than 3 discs is that MS charges a fee for extra discs

Yup id love to have a bluray in the xbox! the it absence is probably why its the more popular out of the 360 and ps3(it was released first and is a tried and tested format leading the massive selection of games and also why the 360 is like half the price) unfortunately i cant see an external or internal bluray for the 360 being made so i expect more loading to the HDD and release day DLC! as for the ps3 fan boys please put something half intelligent and useful down (Arsi it not because it American im British don’t like a lot of Americans (some of ya are well cool) i got the 360 on the fact that is the best value, with the most games and most of my friend have one and have met many more online if you want the most powerful games console buy a ****** good PC) the next gen xbox will be blue ray probably very many layered!
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you xbox 360 people are hilarious yes im a ps3 fanboy after i traded my 360 for a ps3 lets see 3 discs on tar ocean ok?> no problem right NOW come on and people who say ps3 disc loading is slow u havnt played the ps3 oviously mgs4 is the ONLY game i know that needs to installl frequently and umm u only need to install ON CERTAIN GAMES I PLAYED COD5 COD4 NB2K9 ROCKBAND 2 AND I DIDNT NEED TO INSTALL ANYTHING. 360 is failing u better belieave ps3 sale rates are more than doubling ps3 lol ps3 is up to 70% of 360′s sales ur joking and it was released a year earlier u guys are a joke when they relese the new final fantasy for ps3 with tons of features and exclusive content and a downgraded version for the 360 because it would need 5+ discs haha u guys are obsurd

i meant to say that the ps3 sales rates are doubling the xbox 360′s*
and ps3 is future, ms is losing exclusives and ps3 is gaiining. haha xbox 360 only released 2 YES 2 LOL GOOD EXCLUSIVES. fable 2 and gears of war 2 what else? um lets see ps3 ***** awsome exlcusives resis 2, socom:confrontation,lbp,dead space,tekken 6, street fighter 5 illl keep listing hmm motorsotrm drift, infamous, need more? getaway 3, gta5,FF13, dont forget the all utimate overrated halo killer KILLZONE 2 haha jesus man u guys got any explantions how xbox is better. lol dude M$ is only for money, exactly why ur paying for online and themes and trailers while me and ps3 users get all that for free and online are similar trust me i played both. man oh yea God Of War 3 is coming out also mannnn u see the graphics on that game i wonder if the xbox 360 can ouput TRUE 1080p nope cant not even elite btw look on cnn ps3 was rated #1 on tech for must have electronics yea its even been called a * supercompurer * with the intelligent cell processor yea well geuss what i gotta go do something like TEST OUT HOME FOR PS3 HAHA LOSERS

There must be a reason why MS hasnt gone blu ray on the Xbox 360 put i dont care if cames go 20 dvds i was getting tired of playing short story games and if they go blu ray i im sure there blu ray player is going to be fast thats why ur xbox dvd player is loud because its fast .

Why is it a big problem. You play the game for 4/5 hours then you change the DVD.

Doen’t sound too bad to me!

The only time it will become a problem is if every game is put onto more than 1 disc. I can imagine it getting annoying if every game came like that.
this wouldn’t stop me choosing a 360 though.
I have both machines and feel its time to get rid of the 360.
It’s the unreliability, and expense that has driven me to get rid.
I’m up to my 3rd year LIVE subscription and have decided to not bother. Also want to get rid of the 10ft wire running across my lounge (Not spending £60 on wireless!).
Good thing is I have a 3 year old 360 that has all new components after replacing broken ones.
The reality is, if I had bought a full priced PS3 when they came out it would have been cheaper after 3 years. I only realise now when its too late.

I’m not sure how you can consider the PS 3to be the best. If you think some of the things you said some of them just don’t make any sense. For instance the Xbox 360 has spanked the ps3 in the sales department in the last 2 months and probably for the month of December as well. Not to mention that the 360 just had it’s best sales month in Europe ever and in Japan recently when it badly outsold the PS3. I will concede that is probably not to going to happen very often if ever again. Oh and you mentioned the ps3 has sold 70% of total Xbox 360 sales. Think about what you just said. You sound like the 360 sold 100% in its first year and that the PS3 is closing the gap. The 360 has been out for 3 years and so by your reckoning the PS3 is pretty well still a year behind the Xbox 360 in total sales.

As far as great Xbox exclusives go we have Halo 3, Fable 2, Gears 1, Gears 2, and Mass Effect. Not to mention that call of duty 4 played slightly better on the 360.

Honestly some of your great “EXCLUSIVES” are admittedly pretty bad. Take socom confrontation. Also explain how Tekken 6, street fighter 5, getaway 3 are even worth playing. Oh and funny thing I thought Final Fantasy 13 was coming out on the 360. Oh and you are so right, Killzone 2 is overrated.

Can the 360 output true 1080p? Yes but maybe you have been in the dark about this but most games coming out on this generation of consoles don’t even support 1080p natively. It is left to the consoles to up-convert. Take Grand Theft Auto 4. The game actually supported a significantly higher resolution natively on the Xbox 360 than your beloved PS3.

Oh and lastly lets talk about the cell processor. Lets just get one thing out of the way first. The 360 has a more powerful GPU than the PS3 and overall better system. I will concede that the cell processor in the PS3 is far more powerful than the CPU in the Xbox 360. However the PS3 has no system to back it up and therefore Sony can claim all they want that developers can never take full advantage of the PS3. At best maybe 3 or 4 cores may be takes advantage of this generation. Sony is even talking about using the same processor in the PS4 which honestly makes total sense. Oh and this may come as a blow to you. Not even the processor in the 360 has ever been takes full advantage of. In fact it’s never come that close.

Oh and lastly the only reason Killzone 2 might actually have the visuals claimed is because of the space offered on the Blu-Ray disc. Nothing more. The DVD just limit developers in this way on the 360 but there is no reason developers should be limiting themselves to one disc.

Listen guys get a grip, this article is about storage not about which console is better or has better games , blu-ray is better than dvd as it can hold more . thats all its saying .

i did have A 3 FIX ME but it RROD on me so i bought a ps3 , i stil play xbox games on my friends console, its pretty good all my other friends did have x boxes and traded them in to use the media features of ps3 as well as gaming ,

to be fair both have their own exculsives , but every other 3rd party game that sells the most are available on both formats ,

dont get me started about the Wii i bought my 3 year old one and he loves it , the games are crap unless your under 10 years old or a old couple. only sells well as is cheap , and has a magic wand control, real gamers play what they want for me its about quality hardware , future proof and upgradable firmware/feature and good games .

GHWT rules on both consoles

I know what the article is about and if you read my comment I give credit to a console where it’s due. I was just merely pointing some things out. If Sony were to come out with the better console in my opinion I would back that console.

Its all about costs. To keep the cost of the Xbox down, they had to go with DVD. If the Xbox would have started out with Blu-ray (back then when then when there wasn’t a winner) it would have cost them more in the end.

Today there might be a need for the Blu-ray, but it isn’t to the point to where EVERY game is going to be 3 discs.
Even now if they do a blu-ray drive, they still would have sale the DVD version of the game? Also I wondering which costs more to make, to put a game on 3 dvd’s vs 1 Blu-ray.

If there is anything to complain about, complain that Wii can’t even Play DVD movies! They did that for the same reason to cut costs!

well max, if you haven’t noticed, price plays a major role in what systems get bought, for example, when the ps3 was 600$, much fewer were bought

cutting costs is often to make things more affordable

and actually, 3 dvd’s is cheaper than 1 blu ray

and this is basicly a ps3 vs 360 article, why bring up the awesome wii?

its a shame that there are so many of you u who clearly know fuck all about computers or sales fingers and are to raped up in your fan boy ways to realise!!! i am farley neutral when it comes the consoles (i do lean to wards the xbox) i think the ps3 is grate in many ways and crap in others i love the blue ray and cell cpu free online play but lets face it the graphics chip isn’t up to it! it less powerful with much less stuff than the 360’s chip! The 360 is far closer to a pc in set up and is much easer to program for! The lack of games which make me want a ps3 is blatant mgs4 and lbp omg i mush get one! the last thing is the price at £300 odd it way to expensive much rather put the money to a high end pc (gtx280 going fot less than 300 now) ! if it was £200 i would be much more likely to buy the thing! I said i would buy one at a later date when the price dropped! but the gpu is going to be so out dated i just don’t see it happening!

I’ll take 3 discs over 1 disc that REQUIRES an install.

I will take one disk and a one time load (most of the time with all games except mgs4) lol… over scratched disks that’s right ms is getting sued for it too… Don’t put xbox360 on it’s side my buddy bought 4 copies of oblivion because of that crap… and if that’s not enough the 3 rings of death too. All in all 360 has excellent properties just unreliable and cheap construction. Just my opinion. Oh and what happens if disk 2 of 3 doesn’t work? Lol…

I don’t want to go off topic too much, but my 360 I’ve had from launch and it’s been on it’s side for 18 months (until recently, when the aquisition of another console forced it verticle) and never had an issue with scratched discs. I do however find that games and DVDs lent to friends that are not as categol as me do get scratched. Human error me thinks!

I’d like to say ‘categol’ was intentional but alas I did mean ‘careful’

Dude do u actually think ps3s are good. They suck. Look at how much more expensive they are. Oh and speaking of exclusives who is getting The extra add on for GTA IV definitely not ps3 users. Xbox rules.

Y’know I’ve been repairing 360′s for quite a while now, and still class them as a better console than the PS3 – if only for the backing from major game companies.

Don’t get me wrong, every pc in my house is Linux, I’m not an MS fan, and never even owned a standard Xbox – PS, PS2′s were my consoles until the 360 changed my mind.

RROD? You know I’d say that 90% of the time the OWNER causes them, not the 360, though a case mod in order to stop people blocking the bloody vents would be handy – maybe a built in angle grinder that shreds anything that gets too close to the grill… Keep your vents clear and follow the basic instructions (i.e if your box scratches a disk report it to MS who’ll replace it or its drive for free and even send you a new disk!)

For now the 360 still stands high above the PS3 in my opinion, once the games industry (I don’t just mean developers) fall into place behind it as they did the 360 then I’m sure MS will have some work to do – but not just yet.

(Incidently I own both and a Wii – in fact there are 4 – 360s in my place – one for each male in the house lol)

Putting blu ray in the PS3 was mistimed. The PS3 couldn’t compete because it was overpriced. Not many people care to upgrade to expensive blu ray for movies even now.

The RROD was an issue with the first 360 consoles ever produced… its been years now since it was an issue.

We’ll be on to the next generation of gaming before the PS3 could possibly reach the heights of the 360s user base. The PS3 is by no means a total flop, but Sony definitely won’t be king this go around.