Little Big Planet Levels Deleted: Sony PS3 Gamers How do you feel?

Do they delete the levels on your machine or can you still play them?

I’ve read that each time you create a level, before you publish it create a duplicate copy elsewhere on your moon.

You do have a copy of the level on your moon.

My levels have not been delete so I don’t know if this is true but may be possible for MM to delete that level too.

Hee hee hee I knew that this would be a ****** game! Rofl…….why do people always follow the crowd???…..Hmm beats me. Erm, anyways Resistance 2 will be coming out VERY VERY SOON GUYS!!!! Time to start saving money

F’ing lawyers!

I can see how people would use logos and what-not which is against copyright law.

But, why would a company want to remove what is, essentially, free publicity?

Am I surprised? No. Would I be mad if my level was deleted? Yes. Would I get over it (after boycotting the complaining company)? Yes.

My level was deleted – without warning – with no explanation – and all I had was a picture of a poiticians face that was public domain. I can not access my private copy, or the once published copy. In fact, the level was deleted AFTER I took it offline.

MM do not understand copyright laws. They are simply deleting levels where grief was reported, and there is ANY way that it doesn’t fit the EULA, whether in reality it does fit or not. A public domain image does not violate ANY EULA – and in fact there are MANY other levels with the same image out there that has not been deleted – which I am told by Sam from MM is because grief wasn’t reported.

So if you don’t like a level, or your friend, etc. just report it using Grief mechanism and watch the levels be deleted.

So much for their saying use your imagniation to create anything you want. Liars.

Come up with something original!

Be original and they’ll be no infringement.

Superdynamite,

You have no idea what you are talking about – levels, including mine, were deleted for much less than any possible copyright infringement or not being original. Someone simply didn’t like something about them and rather than taking a little time and notifying and working with the level creator who has spent many many hours designing and creating levels as was encouraged by MM, MM and Sony simply deletes your level without any recourse.

So don’t mislead people and tell them to be original and they will be ok – that is not what is happening here. Unless you had a level deleted, don’t comment on this, because your conjecture will be poor at best.

Michael,

I’m sorry your level was deleted, but there must have been something in your creation that was originated and registered by another party other than yourself. The law is very clear.

Sorry SD,

Again you have no idea about levels deletion – they are not in the right here, as much as you want to defend them. This has nothing to do with copyright – it has everything to do with them deleting levels that other users find somehow objectionable, without reason, without notice, without warning, without recourse.

There are many levels online now that have what you call copyrighted or unorginal work online – but haven’t been reported.

A person from MM told me in a private email they are only deleting levels that people have reported using the grief mechanism.

It is very similar to the political correctness they followed with the song that delayed LBP. One person complained, and they pulled every copy of the release delaying it a week or so.

Unless you work for MM/Sony or have had a level deleted – I am afraid you are not in a position to make a comment with a solid foundation. It is just poor conjecture on your part.

I’m surprised i didn’t see this coming, it was a rootkit infection and Sony’s aggressive stance on DRM that stopped me buying a PS3, or any other Sony product for that matter.
One thing i’m confused about though, do Sony actually own Media Molecule? as i thought i read somewhere that they helped form the company in return for 3 exclusive games and after that they were not bound to any one console.
Anyway my heart goes out to anyone that has spent days creating a custom level just to get it deleted unfairly, i know what that’s like from when my HHD has died in the past.

Wow, Michael, Mr. High and Mighty.

Let me throw in my poor conjecture here- All I know is that from what I have heard, read and seen, levels that lots of people have been putting many hours into creating are being deleted from the servers, and access is being blocked on their own machines to re-edit them. This is FACT. Myself, and many others, are now very hesitant to put forth any effort or time to make any cool levels for fear of having all our hard work thrown down the toilet. As anyone who has been playing the user created LBP levels can attest to, MOST of the user created levels you have to sift thru are complete wastes of time. I usually have to play thru at least 10 crappy levels to find 1 that is even mildly entertaining. Unfortunately, because of this modding, the people who have the creativity and drive to make amazing levels are going to be put off for fear of losing all their time and hard work. It is not safe to assume your level will be protected just by not including any trademarked or copywrited materials in there. Chances are anything you create yourself is going to resemble ‘something’ that is questionable to someone.

Now lets sadly watch the LBP community spiral away into mediocrity. Media Molecule and Sony better address this problem soon and alleviate our fears, or huge chunks of the LBP community are going to be lost. I myself am at the end of the rope, after the rocky start with censoring a song, bad server problems, ect.

I have not had any levels deleted yet, but I am not willing either to put forth anymore the 30+ hours I have spent in the past designing levels just to have all that time and energy thrown away for nothing. Way to let us use our limitless imaginations, guys…

I always thought this would happen. Sony has taken a big risk with its open stance on PSN content. It was praised when it allowed UT3 players mods and maps.

But this is essentially a game thats going to be played by a LOT of young kids. Judging from the amount of idiots on XBL, im pretty sure there are a lot of people waiting to post some pretty awful stuff that they have created on LBP. If they dont keep strict regulations on the content of uploaded levels, they are going to get a massive amount of complaints.

MS are very strict when it comes to user content, which i find suffocating but understand how complicated such issues can become

Well I feel for people who have spent hours creating content only to have it deleted without explanation. I’m now hesitant to create my own levels. People can be spiteful, jealous or just malicious and if a level lives or dies because someone submits a complaint, then this is bad if there’s no investigation.

LBP is good but short but the whole philosophy is now create and share and make the game infinite, this isn’t going to happen if Mm and Sony are suffocating their devotees.

It’s one thing removing levels from PSN but it’s a disgrace levels are blocked on creator’s own machines. Sorry Sony, I thought it was me that invested a large sum of money buying your overpriced console and it was me that purchased the game – how dare you tell me what I can store and create on my machine.

This is dangerous ground they’re entering here, I thought this was 2008 not 1984.

Yeah. This whole thing is going to affect LBP community and the longevity of the game.

Theme based levels are really cool to play. Such as Batman, Ninja Warrior, Sonic, or WipeOut.

We now have to be even more creative concerning our levels.

An official explanation from either Sony but mainly from MM would be VERY VERY VERY nice.

ummm havn’t had any levels deleted yet….

Just hope no one finds them offencive.

I do have to disagree with the lamo Pete.

Alot of the levels on the user created side are actually quite interesting. maybe none as interesting as the ones he has created (doink). But i just thought i would set the record straight and give more credit to all my fellow level creators.

Thats a shame though that they are deleting the level from your moon. Just take it offline, I think that would be enough. I will say this though……and with caution I sy this because I love my LBP….If they delete my rock n roll level from my moon, that I spent 14 hours working on. I will trade that game in to gamestop tomorrow.

but until that happens I’m going to laugh at all the people that talk smack abnout this game but have never even played it. it’s a cupfull of fun.

if your scared that your level will be deleated, make one level,and befor publishing it, copy it on a different cator in your moon and name it something else with somthing, probally small, in there that the other one doesnt have like a random block or somthing. so if the one you publish is blocked, then you have a back up to work on.
im not 100% sure on this because my levels were not deleated but it seem very logical, right?

I had a level deleted not that long ago and it didnt have any sort of copyright infringement, and for that matter it used one of MM’s very own templates that i added a bunch of things on to, and for some reason it was deleted i dont think it had anything that was at all offensive. The only thing i can think of is that it was rather challenging so i wonder if someone didnt complain about it because it was to hard for them. In which case i think that MM should check your level and talk to you about what it is that is bothering people so tha ou have a chance to fix it. Not just straight up delete it.

Oh and people it might not be the smartest thing to tell people how you are hiding your copies of the levels if they are that intent on getting rid of them they will probably still delete them, and you are telling them how you hid them so now they can probably find them.

My level was moderated after being published for 3 days. I was so upset because for one it took me a week to create it and it was my first level. The thing that bothered me the most is that they didn’t even notify me or give me a reason why the deleted my level. As far as I know there wasn’t anything offensive or copywrittable on it. I am done with LBP and have deleted all the saves off my hard drive. I will support Media Molecule no more and come tommorrow I am going to trade this game and hunt down some locust and chimera.

Again – don’t buy into the Sony propaganda that this is about copyright and only a handfull of levels were affected – its a lie.

The truth is they have not dedicated personnel to truly investigating, notifying, and helping to fix levels that were SOLEY REPORTED BY THE USER SNITCHING MECHANISM called GOOD GRIEF.

What instead follows are mass deletions. Sony and especially MM should be ashamed. Evidence of this is that people are requesting Sony for help to get their levels online again – but with NO HELP. Simply the levels remained DELETED.

If ANYONE doesn’t like your game on LBP – you run the risk of it being deleted simply because ANOTHER USER – NOT Sony or MM – but ANOTHER USER reported something they didn’t like about it.

Some users are simply going around and reporting them for fun now because Sony mass deletes the levels.

Lazy bastards.

You idiots. What do you think would happen? Don’t use copyright material, that’s all.

The game is still the best new game for the system.

cd drive…..

they aren’t idiots if it’s not copyright matierial they are deleting….

can’t you read??

how to put prices in the end of your own made levels??
in my first 1 i could put prices in, but now it won’t work no more
(btw play starway1 en stars little puzzel land and tell me what you find of it

to put prizes on you level, press square on the score board and put your prizes

Its not an issue of copyright infringement or being too pornographic or even being offensive. Its an issue of freedom of expression( which sony and MM try to market the game as the game with the greatest expression of all time) i think this type of censorship is going to destroy how great this game could become. Now to all the PS3 haters, go give microsoft an entra $100 a year for your LIVE! Idiots your main reason for not liking the 3 was the price. Right? you know it and i know it. mY free online service is awesome and am happy that five years from now, you suckas will have paid way more for your sub-par console with an outdated HD DVD player. HAHAHA. ohh the woes of spending thousands on a console and games and accesories and then having to validate them to your friends and strangers and anyone else who laughs in your face. For the record i want a 360 just to say i got all 3 new gens. also i rank the consoles like this
1) Wii no contest
2) PS3 cons- poorly marketed and not showing signs of getting more popular
3) 360 pro – a large online community
4) N64 – the greatest games and the greatest past generation console
5) Caleco Vison ( spelling?) Donkey kong JR and Mario bros. need i say more
6) NES – the first of many gens that will continue to dominate
ok so i threw the vision in there cause it was my first console. i was 4. anyways i don’t care if LBP online is being run by karl Marx lets build a level and offend some bitches.

ball-sac you forgot Sega! I loved Sega Master System and then after that NES and SNES and Mega Drive and then Playstation 1 and 2.

Anyway, I’ve had a 360 for years, always thought the price of the PS3 was way too high so I never got one, also got the Wii when it came out, and now recently I’ve been thinking about getting the PS3 mainly for Little Big Planet but also kinda for Metal Gear Solid and Resistance 2 but now I’m hearing about this level deletion stuff it’s kinda putting me off! Little Big Planet was like the main reason I wanted to get a PS3 and now I don’t know if I want to if my level is gonna get deleted…

Well – I really don’t see the problem – why delete?

Sony or MM has made it possible for the public to post new levels – just like facebook does with their applications. It’s not Sony or MM who is violating copyrights – its everybody.

Like in all community based websites/games/whatever where content is user generated – it’s almost impossible to upheld copyright laws – just face it – you cannot change the way the internet is evolving.

facebook cannot check every image or text posted for content violating copyrights – it’s impossible!

If someone don’t want to share an image – keep it analogue and hide it – for god sake – hide it.

Somebody made a level called “Batman” – so what! It only means that person propably likes the product and is actually marketing it for you – FREE!

meh..who cares.. the game rocks

Mike says “meh…who cares”

Well I think the people who spent many hours, days even, creating a level to have it deleted and unplayable even on their own machine would care.

You know I sometimes wonder about this kind of practice on Yahoo Answers, YouTube etc. You contribute so much time and effort to better the community then one mod can have a bad day or you make a stupid mistake and boom all your hard work is gone.

You make a mistake, you may not even know you have made and it’s all gone (On Yahoo Answers they even delete other peoples questions if your answer was chosen as a best answer if you get suspended. Yes this has happened to me because I posted a stupid YouTube video I guess. They didn’t tell me what I did, but I contributed a lot of good helpful answers and spent a lot of time helping people. So it just goes to show you how much they really care about the community) And if you get banned on YouTube all your videos are gone. (I’ve never been banned from YouTube but I have seen channels and videos disappear and the people contributed a lot of good work to the community).

I know it’s not the same thing but in essence it is. A lot of hard work and time and effort wasted and you don’t get any notice, you don’t get any reason, it just happens and that’s the most sickening part about it, they don’t give a damn about what good Answers or Videos or Levels you have created and contributed they just hit a button and it’s all gone.

Dam Them they deleted my level yesterday, it had 3000 plays and 40 hearts (my first level that was a success), they never even told me why, i did put a picture on from stewie from family guy though lol, ive re-published it so if you want to play it called, Flamin Nora the Floor is Falling, also my PSN is Satutu.

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