Far Cry 2 on Sony PS3: Apparently it’s lacking

i wish people on the internet knew what they were talking about, the Xbox 360 version is not true 1080p, its upscaled, you can do that with DVDs, doesn’t make them true HD. The PS3 only advertised 1080p on the box if the game is true 1080p, which there are about 30 something PS3 games and about 3 360 games. If you don’t know what your talking about don’t talk.

Sounds like one of those rumors that is put around by insecure Xbox owners.

BTW: Best true 1080p game is Wipeout… not only is it 1080p its also 60fps…

30 ps3 games at 1080p? Sure keep telling yourself that.

Yeah exactly. So many of these reporters dont have a CLUE when it come to tech. And IF it looks better on the 3fixme is cuz that the system they developed for, then ported to PS3 (lazy devs)!! And DAMN right to the guys above me!! PS3 has a load of 1080p, the 3fixme barely any. ALL their big big games are 720. Takes the piss

true words here guys…..anyway..i give a fuck for a 3fixme…who cares..the time will tell which system will be the winner……..

LMAO

http://n4g.com/News-220773.aspx

What are you taking about, you have no idae. The PS3 has only software upscaling, which means that the PS3 use’s resourses to change the scale from 720 to 1080. This is OK if the game is not that complicated, but with games like farcry is is not possible. But the 360 has hardware up scaling which doesn’t take any resourses. So for the above, get your facts right before add you opinion. This is another reason the 360 is better then the PS3. No look at Fallout 3 this is the same… I think the PS3 has hit the top limit of its power, while the 360 just gets better and better…

I very much doubt FAR CRY 2 is running natively in 1080p on the X360.

Chris you are wrong. you got it all backwards! wasnt it the xbox that recieved a software update to upscale games to 1080p? yuuuuuuuuuuuuup. and microsoft releasng a revised model with HDMI? yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.
I have both machines and the upscaling on ps3 is only done with dvd movies after the update.
bottom line is the 360 does not support full HD, it had to be updated through software to get it that much closer. the ps3 is hardware based and supported full HD since release.

Chris got owned…

No one said the PS3 can’t do software upscaling you moron, I only said what it doesn’t say 1080p on the box unless it is native 1080p whereas the 360 displays it on the box even if its an upscaled resolution.

LOL, what a bunch of clueless idiots…

very few 360 games are 1080p, almost all of them are sub 720p on 360, and use the (not very good) upscaler to upscale them to 1080p.

The PS3 has far more native 1080p games, and the upscaler generally makes a better job of upscaling those games that are not 1080p.

Look at the closeups of GTA IV, on PS3, depsite being slightly lower resolution, the textures look noticably better.

You can tell is close to Christmas, the Microsoft FUD machine is in overdrive….

Yes again, a load of rubbish. I have both PS3 and 360 and all ( Thats is every game) Is better on 360. I got the PS3 free with my broadband and now it is used as a door wedge. I have downloaded demo and both 360 and PS3 and all of them come off worse against the More powerfull 360. And for all you idiots that think the PS3 has games in 1080, thats rubbish too. My TV tells me what the input resolution is and all PS3 games I have or played on it have been 720 and even 526 which is old TV imput size. Also the GTA comment its total Bull, I have played it on both the 360 and PS3 and the graphics are shocking on the PS3 compared to the 360. I know the true hurts but for £129.00 you too can have the better games, better online and to be honest better everything, just swollow you pride and make the change… You will thank me for it one day

Thanks Chris, i’ll do it no rather than one day. And i’m thanking you for making me realise not to listen to your drivel now rather than later….

Chris you seriously don’t know what your talking about.

Sorry Mark forgot to mention, Christmas will not be close it will be a walk over for the 360 as was the last 2. There are only about 5 to 6 Christmas’s in a console life so to win 3 so far and maybe one or two more is a total humiluation of the playstaton brand. This gen, MS have won not because they have sold the most consoles but they have proved that they are in it for the long run and also will make a Xbox 3,4 and 5 maybe. I can’t really see a playstation 4 ( unless you are taliking about the PS4 that will just be a correction of the PS3) as they have lost soooooo much money and there image is not good anymore. Just thought I would mention that too.

Drivel

The problem KRistian I actually do know what I am talking about, I think you are the one that is mistaken.

more drivel

Sorry Rob was looking for your comments “Chris got owned…” thats must make you proud

I am…very proud! i’m in a childish mood today

chris you fanboy! ahahahah
i thought this page was for the difference in HD not console wars!
if you want to take it that way then list the xbox exclusives for the rest of the yea compared to the ps3. i can only think of gears 2 and fable that interest me compared to socom, lbp, motostorm, resistance 2, home although not a game but does look interesting but u can compare that the the new dashboard of the 360 shortly. how about wipeout hd that has ben recently released? even warhawks servers are bigger than ever after a years release.
why dont you just sell ur free ps3 and make some money rather than saying its a door wedge? ill be enjoyin both sides because im a real gamer! hmmm i should be all the above games next month on both consoles lol i do feel sorry for you missing out on such games.

but yea back to topic, i stil go by what it posted earlier and the performance on both systems depend largely on the developers optimisation.

oh and if you are now looking on the internet for a list of exclusives then you should gtfo this site because you should know your chosen console more if you want to start bashing the competition lol

Chris you see what you said there ‘think‘ I’m mistaken, i learnt very young that you shouldn’t generally open your mouth unless you ‘know‘ what your talking about and generally theres very little what I’ve said is based on what i think rather what I know for instance there is a list of native 1080p games in existence I will dig it up for you if you want and you will see the 360s list coming in at a mighty 3, whereas you rely on your TVs input settings which would say 1080p even if it is upscaled. I will provide the list if you wish but other than that I refuse to conversate with someone who is blatantly feeling some ‘buyers remorse’ and feels the need to justify his purchase.

Chris got owned… lol

@Ace.

I was commenting on the HD topic till soemone moved it into a console war. You mentioned a “real gamer” and then a few PS3 excusives and the only 2 360 exclusives. If you are not aware of games like Left4Dead, Nuts&bolts, Lips, At the moves, GTA DL, Halo wars (just 2009) and others. Then you are not a really gamer. Also the PS3 games are a bit weak, Socom( Boring), LBP (2D side scroller, get a Wii), RS 2 ( The first one was shocking), Motor storm (get 8/10 in IGN) and don’t talk about home, it has sex affender writen all over that….. Wouldn’t touch that with your barge pole . Regaring the PS3 and selling I can as if I cancel the braodband I have to give it back, if I don’t have it them I have to pay £300…

KRistian, I also learnt very young that when typeing not to open your mouth spiders can crawl in.

I apologise Chris but i don’t speak Pineapple…

Rob another good and worthwhile comment…

I’m having fun, leave me alone…more worth while than what you’ve been posting!

Sorry to say this chris but YOU ARE WRONG man! These other guys are right! And no im not a ps3/360 fanboy i have a pc. And will always be a pc fan! Use google( and don’t go to fansites cuz that is exactly what they are supportive towards theyre preferd system). It is very handy lol! Oh yeah chris i wont be visiting this post in the future so your comments will be useless to me! cherz!

Thats a matter of opinion

Bring on the trumpets!

KRistian, I see you have left to buy your self a 360.. Good man… You will thank me later… Don’t bother with the list as I can come up with some list that tell a completely different story… Thats the problem with list

shizzle the lizzles

Time to go and play some 1080p games on my 360, I will leave you wishing you were here….. But for just 129.00 you could be….

You’ll be back in 10 minutes once you actually realise you don’t have that many 1080p games to go play…

Chirs, you’ll be back in 10 minutes once you actually realise you don’t have that many 1080p games to go play…

I said i refuse to conversate with Chris but Rob, wouldn’t you say this was conceding defeat “KRistian, I also learnt very young that when typeing not to open your mouth spiders can crawl in.” in a conversation about technology?

BTW heres the lists lads:
http://www.geekscribe.com/2007/12/08/microsoft-v-ps3-1080p-games/
http://www.makeyougohmm.com/ps3-1080p-games/
http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/

I honestly love the xbox/PS3 banter, keep it coming! Please allow me to insert my opinion. As a PS3 owner and loyal to the sony brand (which may be pathetic to many) I can not justify purchasing an XBox. I may change shortly as I made an agreement that if my xbox mate purchases a PS3 I will get an xbox (makes me sick because he is getting one next month). But now to the point. I love my PS3 but I am not afraid to admit defeat. Really, fellow PS3 owners, we have been plauged with 2nd rate online options, updates that crash and take forever. Games that look worse (doesn’t matter who made them or the frame rates blah blah blah) and so on. Lets be honest, if xbox graphics were worse on multiplatform games they would never hear the end of it from us PS fanboys and thats a fact. We are now loosing all the once exclusives we had which is heart breaking… Yes, we know we have a more reliable system, with better hardware that WILL stand the test of time and hopefully compete with a possible xbox version 3. But for right now we have A LOT of catching up to do, and are far from winning anything besides reliability which in the grand scheme of things is not that great! So fellow PS guys, don’t hate me too much for my comments, and xboxers don’t get all giddy. Lets just play the great games on whatever system you have and may the best man win. Viva la PS

Playing and really enjoying FarCry 2 on PS3. No complaints from me! Aside from the driving – wow, lots of driving.

lol hahaha @chris your quote(I think the PS3 has hit the top limit of its power, while the 360 just gets better and better…) i`ve never heard something so funny and so much rubbish and plain lies.every developer even the ones that support the 360 say the ps3 has not tapped its full power and the 360 has hit its full potential.haven`t u seen the devs complaining about dvd9.people only make games on the 360 cause its easier to code for the same as pc coding and thats it,lazy developers admit its just too hard or cant be bothered to code for ps3.

the 360 is just the original xbox with an upgraded graphics card oh wait even worse they took the hdd out and you have to pay to play online .ps3is free online play hahaha ps3 owns 360

@ Kristian I totally agree but you’re asking the wrong person. I haven’t talked much about technology, I know he’s talking rubbish but rather than enter an arguement with him took the try to annoy him route. Much more fun IMO

Redmonks, no one argue that some multi plat games were inferior on the PS3, what the argument was that this game is not true 1080p as are very few true 1080p games for the Xbox as illustrated in my earlier post.

look even your so called PS fans are going against you, and to be honest his was the best post on this site with probable the most true to it . And just a point before I leave work on a slow day , if the pS3 is only at 10% or what ever why are the games so crap… It has taken 2 years to get to % and still crap games, can’t wait for the next 30 years when they may get 20% out of it, but it will still be crap… but I suppose it will still be running. Thats why thay make it so reliable , because by the time the good games come out it will still be working 28 years from now. Going home now……

I knew you’d be back….

KRistian, I totally agree, and believe me I am PS till the end. We have more hi-def games at a higher resolution and fact is fact. I’m a latest tech kinda guy so I get a kick out of the highest numbers and so forth, but it all comes to what it looks like and how it runs at the end of the day despite the numbers. Gran Turismo and Drakes is still the best looking games on any console GT being 1080p and Drakes 720p, no converting necessary… and yes xbox can not compete with those numbers natively!

This so called web review actually stopped me from buying Farcry 2 on the PS3 today and I bought DeadSpace instead. After reading your comments I have decided to buy Farcry 2 after all. Its extremely important for Web reviews such as these to factually accurate as they are doing alot of damage to the sales and Repuation of the PS3. Guys great job for keeping me informed and factually correct SAD to say but the Chris’ of this world are needed…….. kind of balance up the argument in a weird twisted way….

Chris, when I’m FORCED to get my xbox, i’ll hit you up and whoop ya a** online And in the meantime remove that dream machine you call a door wedge to enjoy some real hi-def games! lol

BTW off to buy Farcry 2 on PS3 now

i believe when God of war 3 comes out Chris will be sh!@#$% his pants and say on gamespot submitting a question: will this come to the xbox360? and gamespot people reply what a stupid question, NO!…LOL…. Now that would be funny. The Reason why ps3 got crappy grpahics compared to xbox360′s is because they dont give it the bloody time it needs to sort the “graphical” stuff out. If you look at sony’s first party games they blow your mind off and the graphics actually look way more supurb then 360′s. I know for the fact that mostly everyone is looking forward to LBP even myself. If LBP was on the 360 i bet you would bash ps3 fanboys with this but too bad it aint since its exclusive.

Did you know that epic games may be getting bought by legendary pictures thus it may possibly mean that gears of war exclusivity with microsoft may end and may go multiplat <– just speculation

Chris + Redmonk = same guy, lol that guy is geting owned, should have done some research before opening his mouth, and by the way i dont own any console, coz i cant even afford a cheap one, but yes i love games

player2… your comment is hella lame! Grow up, get a job, then go buy a cheap 360 designed for entry level gamers and wanna-be’s such as yourself.

ZzzZZ… You are right! No one can touch our exclusives! Drakes has superior graphics compared to the brown shaded GoW, despite what any xbox fans may think. We still need to get the multiplatforms up to par though!

ace wrote: “bottom line is the 360 does not support full HD, it had to be updated through software to get it that much closer. the ps3 is hardware based and supported full HD since release.”

Wrong ace, the 360 has a built-in hardware upscaler chip. The firmware update was to enabled the use of the chip within the 360, it was NOT a software upscaler solution for the console.

Hence the 360 DOES support hardware 1080p. The difference between the 360 and PS3 in 1080p is that the PS3 supports 1080p to 60fps, whereas it’s 30fps at 1080p on the 360 due to the way upscaling works (upto 60fps for 1080i).

I’m just passing through, but couldn’t help notice what a complete **** Chris is! Get a grip you sad *******.

Chris wrote: ” I think the PS3 has hit the top limit of its power, while the 360 just gets better and better…”

mark wrote: “every developer even the ones that support the 360 say the ps3 has not tapped its full power and the 360 has hit its full potential…”

Please, BOTH of you are wrong . Neither console has hit it’s full potential, and no console EVER hits it’s full potential before the end of it’s normal lifespan. There’s ALWAYS more for devs to get out of the same hardware.

The 360 and PS3 are actually VERY similar in terms of power. The PS3 is better in some areas (more ‘floating point’ processing power in it’s Cell CPU, more space on Blu-ray, HDD as standard) and the 360 is better in other areas (more ‘general’ processing power in it’s CPU, slightly better GPU, DVD drive faster than Blu-ray), but overall, it balances out, which is why multi-format games are so similar between both consoles, including multi-format games which were developed with the PS3 as the lead format (Burnout, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur etc).

@ gamerfeed

Thanks for the info

either way theres not much difference at all. The real difference is when yout HDTV exceeds around 47″. I have a 50″ HDTV that only reaches 1080i but i leave it at 720p and my friends is the same size but 1080p. We recently compared wipeout HD wich is 1080p at 60fps and it does noticebly look alot better.

its realy down to the devs

ace wrote: “…its realy down to the devs”

Exactly.

what a stupid nob

I love consoles…I love it when my friends say that PC´s are it, you have to play all Rpg´s and FPS on a PC, that´s the only way. But I love even more being able to put in a game, on my 360 Elite, PS3 or Wii…and it works;) No hardware or software upgrades required:) But I gotta comment on what Chris said many posts ago, about PS3 reached it´s potential and 360 gets better… Like I said..I love my consoles, and lately I baught more games for 360 then my beloved PS3. Games like PES 2009 and Far Cry2. I would consider my self a PS3 guy over 360, but as it is today, 360 has better graphics, better contrast and all around crisper and clearer image. And you don´t have to install a game wich takes alot out of your demo, photo, music or video space. And if you own a 360 Elite or just big HDD, then you have even much more space than on PS3, and you don´t have to fill it up with some stupid HDD installs for a game. And the thing I hate most about it, to install on my PS3….is that the games still are not as good looking or smooth as 360…and we also have bluray which should give PS3 the edge in those things….but no…….But….Chris said PS3 reach it potential…and 360 has not……False…360 Is much closer to be fully tapped then PS3….One of the first big games that launched to 360 was Gears of War. Good looking game and all, but personally i was dissappointed. Short game, very very very repetitive…run…hide behind a wall, run to the next wall….and so on and so on…and even the main guy at Epics said that they had to use almost every ounce of power on the 360 to make the game so good and shiny…Which led my to think about PS3. Almost all developers say that PS3 is incredibly difficult to work with…very complex, and not very user friendly for gamemakers. Others say that they don´t have the time or money, or even the courage to take on that beast. Despite all those comments, FOM was a launch game on most complex game system ever. Not as shiny as GOW on 360, But much better storyline, much longer game, semi destructable environment, at least more interactive, and lot´s and lot´s of guns. Not only the chainsaw gun….And developers said that the used not even 20% of the PS3 Potential……other game for PS3…Uncharted…visually stunnig, fantastic, and those guys behind that game said they used about 30% of the systems Potential. With all this said…or written, it´s save to say that 360 almost fully tabbed by one of it´s first games, and PS3 is very far from being there;)

PS. hehe my initials;) But really PS. they say that the main reason for 360 being graphically superior so often, is because it has up to 70-80 mb more for the graphics than PS3, because if the CPU on 360 doesn´t need all that 256 mb memory for computer proccesing, it hands the rest over to the graphics. While PS3 has only and always only 256 mb for graphics and 256 for CPU…and if CPU wouldn´t need to use all that….then it´s just many mb down the drain:(

Peace to you all and greetings from Akureyri, Iceland;)

Petto, my username on PSN….and PettoSveins on 360….need more friends;)

Sad fact is that when coders get around to the quad core thing Microsoft will drop the 720 on our laps. Its still years away. Trust me that them moment Sony has a obvious leg up Microsoft will step in and say…. You aint seen nothing yet! Our quad core Xbox 720 built with middle of the road 2010 parts will be twice as good as the almost 5year old PS3. No sunshine for Sony!
If the quad core 720 is able to run the full 360 cat with no issues….. Sony will have to release the PS4 in responce. Then and only then will both machines be the same… my guess 3 years.

Chris your such a sad muva fuker. Your not a fanboy yet hate the other system for pethetic reason. Someone picked out exclusives for PS3 and you basically said they suck, however all the 360 exclusives are great, a fanboy opinion. Switch all the exclusive around and you’d be saying that gears 2, fable 2 and halo wars suck on ps3 but R2, LBP and Motorstorm are brill on 360.

FarCry 2 is the same for both 360 and PS3, they score identical on gamespot with them giving both versions 8.5 with no mention on any version being inferior. PC version tops both in visuals and less pop-ups. So article = fake

Im a glad owner of both consoles, Ive been a ps3 fan boy since playstation first came out. Though i must admit when a console proves to be more entertaining and more worthy of playing, and my favor goes to the xbox360 only because it has a much better interactive online experience. Since when do i have to quit the game to message someone on ps3, where xbox i just pop up the window type or even send a voice chat while the game is paused and i can private chat any time i want not go back to the dashboard like the ps3!
Big dissapoint so far with the ps3 but i havent given up because theres no reason to, Ps3 releases that are sure to make the ps3 rise to fame is the HOME online experience where its a mini world instead of a boring dashboard like every console has which is free to download so i heard. If these games turn out as good as theyre hyped up to be then i will favour the ps3.

. Killzone 2 ( I hope it doesnt dissapoint) Its taken them so long to figure out the ps3 coding!
. God of war 3 ( I hope microsoft dont buy this company otherwise they might win overall)
. Tekken 6 ( Should be stunning as always!)
. Gran Turismo 5 ( Should be stunning as always!)
. Socom 250 player online experience i dunno much about this game or if its even socom but i have heard we can play 250 people in one server! I hope it dont lag out otherwise all the hype for nothing.

Though it makes me wonder why hideo Kojima was furious saying Sony lied about there graphic capabilities, Metal gear solid 4 was only 20% of wat he wanted for graphics, other then that he was very pleased with the amount he can fit in. But Graphics are a big thing for me damn itt!!!!! why ps3!!!!!!
The only game i have seen that looks better on ps3 is soul calibur 4, it looks absoloutely stunning on my tv. And my mate has the same tv and dont look as good on 360.

it’s true, the 360 is better at playing games than the ps3. but i don’t think it makes a huge difference, not like a 8800GT and a GX280 side by side playing crysis.

i think the thing with teh PS3 is that it uses the cell, which can process alot of functions the 360 can’t. games on both consoles will usually be made for 360, the traditional way, so in those cases the games will look better.

but ps3 exclusive games will have a tendency to look better. drakes fortune, first gen game, pretty impressive on it’s launch. mGS4, pretty impressive. new naughty dog games coming out claiming drakes only used 30-40% of the PS3 true power for exclusive games using it’s on api’s or wotever.

you are really going to find these days, consoles are going to have to bring out updateable features to improve memory and graphics memory if they want to stay competitive, and program games to run on a bare bone system. but to be also programmed to run much better on an updated system. that would mean an average joe can have an upgradeable system, plays latest games at high quality, is easy to use and plug into tv etc. i know id support being able to buy a new xbox or ps3 that comes with say 1024GB GDDR3 card, but has a special buse connection that could support GDDR4 or 4 memory for upgrades with a a simple plug and play, like a server component, slot in and out.

its a fact of life that PC hardware is growing faster than it has before, and now consoles loose out as from design to release the hardware can be a few years old, ps3 was based on 2×6800 ultra cards, at the time were awesome. when it released, I’m pretty sure 8800s were just coming out. and since then, 9800s, and GX series. 4 gen of video hardware old now :S

should also say with the upgradeable component consoles. lots of people don’t run their 360 or ps3 in HD, they would be happy with barebone system.

then the hardcores, would be interested in the upgrades so the consoles compete well with PCs, but yet still have the traditional console feels with controllers, basic plug in play, boot up no OS loading or bluescreen errors etc.
it could really take off if sony or microsoft got behind it.

i got this game on the relase date for the ps3. but found that 1. the game kept freazing and locking up my ps3 could not even get the menu upuntil 30 seconds after pressing the button. the grafics looked far better on the internet videos that what my game looked what is set up on 42″ hd plazma with hdmi lead. then when i tryed to move around fast it was like someone else was controling my player its was lagging that much. i mean dont get me wrong im sure its a good game but took mine back after 20 mins. Did anyone else find this problems with the ps3 version?

LOL, turns out that dude Quaz51, king of the pixel counters have been at it again, and it turns out the PS3 version runs at a MUCH higher native resolution that the 360 version…

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPendingCom-220773.aspx?CT=2&Page=1&Page2=1#C1661922

Quaz51 – the guy from beyond3d forum who found the native resolution of GTA4 (PS3) and Halo 3 (X360), confirmed that the PS3 version of Far Cry 2 is running at 960*1080p as opposed to 1280*720p on X360.

See the links below for the native resolution of PS3 and X360 versions

PS3
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p…&postcount=952

When asked if the x360 version runs at 1080i too , QUAZ51 replied :-

X360
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p…postcount=1134

Seems the 360 version is the low-res gimped version…

@jody My PS3 version runs fine. My 360 version killed the console, It’s back for repair (again).

Just an FYI… I have FC2 and my Samsung LCD and ps3 are running it on 1080p.. suXBOX owners need to do their homework. And quit hatin on ps3. Cell processor rapes the Xbox

chris u are like an octo throwing ink to run away before u getting in flame war get fact the 360 everybody knows is good not better their is a big difference between consoles hardware wise .the one thing u said that the ps3 has reach full potential dude im verry sure u saw killzone2 it only used 4spe’s ps3 can even run crysis can also match dx10 by softwares and the reason 360 is looking a bit better when ps3 lead and about 1080p 360 has proven again and again that cant aim that high reason why ps3 can only do 720p because 360 potential in exclusive ps3 RULES but multi cross 360 gets the best cut last thing developers say ps3 and how ps3′s growth it’s been tie up because 360 hardware can handle that mush but it easier to program

Mark wrote “LOL, turns out that dude Quaz51, king of the pixel counters have been at it again…”

That info is wrong Mark.

Quaz51 posted that BEFORE the game was launched, and it was based upon MOVIES of Far Cry 2, where because one of the movies appeared to be 1080p, he assumed it was probably the PS3 version.

As it turns out, he was wrong, it was the reverse, where it’s the 360 version which goes up to 1080p, and it’s the PS3 version which only goes up to 720p, as also confirmed by the info printed on the back of the game boxes;

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=944400&topic=46121686

“look on the back of the game boxes, ps3 hdvideo output 720p, 360 hdvideo 720p,1080i,1080p”

Mark wrote “@jody My PS3 version runs fine. My 360 version killed the console, It’s back for repair (again).”

I doubt you’re being truthful here Mark, since if you had both versions, you could see on the back of the boxes that the PS3 version supports up to 720p and the 360 version supports up to 1080p.

I had a 60GB PS3 loved it until it broke which surprised me i thought it was xbox with problems, i had ninja game in 1080p looked amasing but the only game i really played was cod4 and after playing it on xbox i got one, with the rumble it just made the experience that much better.

ps3 first party games >>>> xbox360 entire game catalog in technical aspects.

As far as i can say is that i understand what you are sayin,but if we bought a ps3 or xbox thats our choice!I’ve all ways been happy with sony playstations and lots of friends have them and some have 360 but they r all great cons but they should have made more evert to make them as good as ever b4 selling them to us!!Money Money Thats all people ever think about!!!Let’s hope that if any others ever come out ps4 or xbox460 that they do there homework first and make theese as good as they r mean’t to b,in stead of bring them out to early and just bigin them up which is just bollocks!But i as many of others r happy with our cons..farcry 2 is a gta in bush land and lack realism!!!Bring on call of duty5 and killzone 2 , r f m 2….LETS PLAY!!!! THAT’S WHAT THERE FOR FUNNNNN!!!

^^^ If you say so Jason. I’m so happy for you.

A game like Far Cry 2 shouldn’t be played on anything except a fully loaded PC running DirectX 10. PERIOD!! As for consoles, I had my choice between PS3 and X360. I chose the PS3. Sorry to all you fantasy-lovers out there. It’s simply a more robust, versatile, and all out powerful machine. Even Hideo Kojima himself said that Metal Gear Solid 4 ISN’T POSSIBLE on the X360, and look at what kind of score that game got. So X-Boxers….silence. Your point is moot.

I hope everyone knows:

1) The 360 puts every game in 1080p by just upscaling it, which you can also do on PS3 from the settings

2) 3.5gb install isn’t that bad and even if space is tough you can upgrade to a higher hard drive capacity than the ps3

3) 360 version of Farcry is freezing for some owners, why? nobody knows and Ubi don’t want to admit it

Chris, the Xbox360 isn’t in it for the long haul you idiot, the PS3 is, the PS3′s life cycle is 10 years as the 360 is only 5 years or so, then microsoft need’s to make another console.

And the PS3 hitting it’s limit? Rofl where the hell did you get that information from, that’s absolutely BS that Microsoft fanboys probably shoved down your throat. The PS3′s % that it’s using is around 30-43% somewhere around there it has along way before it hits it’s limits. The 360 on the other hand.

The 360 probably won’t even last over a month if your lucky, it’ll probably last a couple years.

Rob wrote: “I hope everyone knows: 1) The 360 puts every game in 1080p by just upscaling it, which you can also do on PS3 from the settings”

WRONG!

The 360 has native 1080p support. That’s a fact, and has been since the update in October 2006. Two years laters certain gamers still don’t get it.

The 360 has a built-in HARDWARE upscaler chip, which besides handling all the upscaling needs of the console, converts the two 60fps 1080i fields (odd and even lines) into one 30fps 1080p field. Hence at 1080p at 30fps, is EXACTLY the same on the 360 as it is the PS3, and it’s ALL hardware based, not software.

The downside is that this limits the 360 to 30fps max at 1080p, whereas some PS3 games can run it at 60fps at 1080p.

Derek wrote: “Even Hideo Kojima himself said that Metal Gear Solid 4 ISN’T POSSIBLE on the X360″.

Actually, Hideo simply says it *may* not be possible because it was coded specifically for the PS3, not because the 360 isn’t powerful enough and couldn’t handle it. He say it would be difficult. The fact is, in terms of overall power, both consoles are similar, with the PS3 having a *slight* edge and more capacity per storage disc.

If MGS4 is ported to 360, it wouldn’t be done by the producer (Hideo) and his team, but by another team within Konami.

Lao wrote: “The PS3’s % that it’s using is around 30-43% somewhere around there it has along way before it hits it’s limits. The 360 on the other hand.”

I’ll repeat my reply to Chris and Mark above….

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…Please, BOTH of you are wrong . Neither console has hit it’s full potential, and no console EVER hits it’s full potential before the end of it’s normal lifespan. There’s ALWAYS more for devs to get out of the same hardware.

The 360 and PS3 are actually VERY similar in terms of power. The PS3 is better in some areas (more ‘floating point’ processing power in it’s Cell CPU, more space on Blu-ray, HDD as standard) and the 360 is better in other areas (more ‘general’ processing power in it’s CPU, slightly better GPU, DVD drive faster than Blu-ray), but overall, it balances out, which is why multi-format games are so similar between both consoles, including multi-format games which were developed with the PS3 as the lead format (Burnout, Devil May Cry, Soul Calibur etc).

I’m only going to say one thing here,

@ Chris, about your TV and relying on it. Your PS3 will default to 720p after (can’t remember which one) an update. If you remove uncheck this in your system settings you’ll see in fact that you’re PS3 is the only machine capable of running true 1080p. Xbox for as many good games as it may have, is not quite up to par with PS3 in terms of power specs. I’m not going to disagree with you and say that there aren’t games that look better on xbox than ps3, but please keep in mind it’s been the lead platform for developers since it has been out longer. The ports are getting much better, but I’m sure you’re going to pull that out from under the door when KillZone2 makes you S**t your pants and probably change your tune. Just a bit of foresite.

Bish wrote: “. If you remove uncheck this in your system settings you’ll see in fact that you’re PS3 is the only machine capable of running true 1080p.”

Both the 360 and PS3 run true 1080p Bish, as I’ve stated (and shown) above, including Far Cry 2, which is up to 1080p NATIVE support on the 360 (not upscaled) and 720p on the PS3. The only difference is the 360 is limited to 30fps at that res compared to 60fps on the PS3. It seems you and gamers like yourself are in denial over the 360 capabilities just like Chris is in denial over the PS3′s capabilities, only you’re on opposite sides of the fence.

@ gamer

Yeah I guess if you have the xbox with the HDMI then you’re right, but if you’re still running Component then there’s still an debate to be had. Really though you missed my whole point above, which was, that Chris was relying on his TV to show him the output. I’m just informing him on a simple correction to make to the PS3 to resolve that. Beyond that, I really don’t care what the xbox can do, they have an extensive game library, with over a 17% failure rate………………… need I say anymore. Dosen’t really make any difference on what it can output if you’re waiting on your fourth xbox to arrive.

first ps3 is native and xbox is convered if that would be a lie then from the start 360 would be 1080p 60 frames over 30 frames at the beginning there is not a difference but if u are used to native 1080p u can tell anyways i think the word (lacking) shouldnt be used here the fact that dev haven’t been doing there work or finding the best port or mid point of the different architectures so call tech’s will keep adding there 2 cent where they dont fit and the fanboys will never drop it farcry2 first sucks dev try to fit in cosoles ver and didnt work now i asured u that this game would be built from bottom up on either cosoles not porting we all know that ubi soft sucks at porting then results are different this goes to the journalist blue ray won that war due to space , visual, audio,and quality over dvd9 and i think it stupip to criticised ps3 or blue the lacking word goes to developers that a fact no other way around

sorry gamer but far cry 2 is not a native 1080p on either system. Mr. Gates doesnt like to tell people the truth with most titles being upscaled to 1080p. Maybe he figures how ignorant some of his followers are cough (chris) and knows that they can put 1080p on the back of the box and gullable dumb asses will make a comparison with the ps3 with no real factual knowledge. Im tired of all this fanboy bs. with all that said they both have their advantages like others have stated so far. Xbox does have a better online but it should being that you have to pay for it.. There are some great exclusives for both systems but I have yet to see any 360 game that is as visually stunning as jakes fortune, or any ps3 game for that matter. I considered buying the 360 before i got my ps3 knowing that most the multi plats look better on the 360. however the difference in those games was not huge and ported games will never look as good as on the system they were created for. Im a tech junkie and in the end i went with the ps3 because it is more superior in that respect as well as the high failure rates for the 360 being a big turn off. With that said if i had more time I would probably buy a 360 as well because both systems have some great games. All of these people out there can take opposite sides of the fence but anyone hating on the other is just going to miss out on some great titles.

by the way if anyone wants to play far cry 2 or cod waw my psn is unfazed420.

read ps3 is the only native 1080p fanboys cant take it and gives excuses about 360 only beeing 1080p 30 fps first the xbox is not 1080p is been converted but every ignorant forgot that xbox in 2005 was lunch with out hdmi do some homework i’m a true gamer and there is a diffrence between 360 vs ps3 and hd vs blue the fact that dev could get the best results dont mean jack sound like the journalist got some homework to do res are not graphics 360 also lacks this to sys are different and the are not the same hardware or graphical display

J wrote: “sorry gamer but far cry 2 is not a native 1080p on either system. Mr. Gates doesnt like to tell people the truth with most titles being upscaled to 1080p.”

Yes, I don’t own the game, so I’m only going by what I’ve read, but with further checking I believe you’re correct regarding FC2, it is 720p native for both, so I stand corrected on that particular game. However regarding 1080p on the 360, the denial by some of the 360′s native support for 1080p by claiming it’s ONLY achieved through upscaling is getting a bit tiresome now.

BTW, I find EPIC’s Gears of War games as impressive as anything I’ve seen on the PS3, despite UE3 not being built from the ground up on the 360.

Bish wrote “Yeah I guess if you have the xbox with the HDMI then you’re right, but if you’re still running Component then there’s still an debate to be had.”

1080p is still achievable for some over component Bish. Yes it’s more difficult and it’s not going to work on all TVs, but it is possible and therefore numerous 360 gamers are running 1080p over component.

Reliability is a totally different issue.

@violento – Sorry, I think I know what you’re trying to say, but I’m not up to trying to work it all out.

@J – I forgot to add, THANKS very much for correcting me on FC2. I always like to get my facts rights, so it’s great when someone points out my errors.

hey ripten 720p vs 1080p 30 fps no difference now the output of any game is dev job 360 has been developers choise because one first to arrive two similar to pc third easier to port from pc ps3 has proven day after day that ps3′s technology is way suprior.the 360 been out for almost three years and no 360 exclusive has match uncharted the only true 1080p is ps3 not 360 .its been converted converted it’s been proven 360 is not 1080p in many games and ignorant forgot that 360 was lunch with no 1080p look it up and ps3 can run 1080p all day at 60 fps

I had to step in after reading about 25 emails of peoples responses to 1080p on xbox.
Sadly to the stupidity of Microsoft my xbox doesnt run hdmi ports, on the other hand i played the same game at my friends with his hdmi console and the difference was noticeable. Im glad they could upscale games to make us think its 1080p but the truth is it is missing that stunning look to most games.
Sony never seems to disappoint with graphics, its hdmi input with a great game like soul calibur IV or Heavenly sword, and i was really shocked on the difference between a wanna be high definition console comparing to a true high definition console.
Whats great we can expect so much more with the future releases of Ps3 cause they barely tapped into it’s full potential, As for xbox360 i have about 20 more games on it and always play it over my Ps3 because of the online experience, But anyhow rumors are its reached it’s maximum potential on gears of war 2.
So if people are getting console for graphics and hardware then of course id say Ps3 hands down, but if your looking for entertainment then i said it before, i favor the xbox360 on this one. I hope Ps3 get there online fixed cause its terrible so far.
If your in between and don’t know what to pick, Then the ps3 has surprises coming up for its owners so we can expect much more games and a better online soon .

i like to say that who ever keeps saying that 360 is maxxed out is dome gears 2 or gears i think people has mis interpret pushing the bar dev are barely getting used to this consoles and comments like that makes for custumer get to flame wars when reality is that all take this generation graphics over ATARI any day wheather is 720p or 1080i,1080p

virgel) the xbox has more games because it’s been out longer but custumer makes the last choise to me and a hole lot of gamers not custumers 85% of 360 titles they suck plus the best titles ps3 has them exp gears 1, gears 2 , mass effec , halo 1,2 not 3 pretty much the rest are on both the reality pound per pound it’s hard to choose but in the long run mark my words the results would be ps2 vs xbox = where is the first xbox and where is ps2 and is not hardware . it’s just ps3 alone offers to dev better view of tomorrow

Virjel wrote: “Whats great we can expect so much more with the future releases of Ps3 cause they barely tapped into it’s full potential, ….But anyhow rumors are its reached it’s maximum potential on gears of war 2.”

And this has been one of the major problems for the PS3 Virjel, which is gamers like yourself buying into the hype of an untapped PS3 which is much more powerful than the 360. The reality is that overall, the 360 and PS3 are about the same, with the PS3 having a SLIGHT edge due to Cell, but in many cases, the 360 achieves equal or sometimes better results.

The problem with this “untapped power” idea is that whilst many hardcore gamers (fanboys included) hang on to the belief of a super powerful PS3 waiting to unleashed itself upon the world, the vast majority of gamers couldn’t care less about which console has slightly better anti-aliasing or slightly better physics or slightly sharper textures or slightly better lighting or slightly higher resolution etc, they are not interested in the console’s so-called “potential”, they’re only interested in what the console can do NOW and the games available for it NOW.

So this false belief has actually helped the 360, because many gamers have completely under-estimated the 360′s capabilities, expecting the PS3 to wipe the floor with it, but instead they see the 360 more than holding it’s own, and therefore it’s been a surprise for many. In contrast it has hurt the PS3 because the non-hardcore gamers keep hearing about how much more powerful the PS3 is suppose to be, but they are just not seeing the difference in the games.

Hence ignore the claims of GeOW2 reaching the 360′s maximum potential, because that was EXACTLY the same claims made about the first GeOW upon release in 2006! Besides, this is with a game engine not built from the ground up for the 360 (unlike the best PS3 exclusives), and a game engine which the PS3 runs no better than the 360, as seen with Unreal Tournament 3.

Right now, the PS3′s biggest strength are the groups of talented devs from the PS2 years who have always been able to push Sony hardware. Hence put the talents of a developer like Naughty Dog to work on the 360 and you could expect equally impressive results.

Just to add, when I said “Hence put the talents of a developer like Naughty Dog to work on the 360 and you could expect equally impressive results”, I know this is not going to happen.

I’m just saying that the results we see on the consoles is not just about power, but also about the talent of the developers, the resources available to them (financial, manpower, technology etc) and the time taken to create the game. So when it comes to exclusives, the PS3 has an advantage over the 360 in this respect.

GamerFeed you have great facts and i believe you when it comes to the 360′s power. Though many developer gamers who’ve made games for the ps3 said they didn’t even come close to the power they could’ve used, which one of them quoted 40% of its power was used on heavenly sword.
Though the Ps3 has potential to be godly, its the developers who are lazy. If killzone 2 doesn’t really go over the border on graphics and gameplay then i will keep my mouth shut on the ps3.

Virjel. Thanks for that. But just a few points;

“Though many developer gamers who’ve made games for the ps3 said they didn’t even come close to the power they could’ve used, which one of them quoted 40% of its power was used on heavenly sword.”

Never take “percentage used” figures seriously, because they are meaningless, and is a common trend amoungst those developing games on Sony consoles. Hence last gen, numerous devs gave “percentage used” figures for their PS2 games, and when you look back at them, they really told us nothing we didn’t already know, which is that devs will ALWAYS find ways to push consoles harder. In fact, Naughty Dog were so fed up with percentage claims last gen that they said on their website at the time;

http://www.naughtydog.com/jak1/20Questions.htm

“Q) What percent of the PS2’s power are you using?
A) People think of systems as glasses and ask: “how full is the glass”. Unfortunately, that isn’t how it works. Any developer who gives you a “percent of system used” answer is blowing smoke.”

Sadly, someone from ND was “blowing smoke” when talking about Uncharted this gen, but that reply from ND last gen is as relevent today as it was back then.

“Though the Ps3 has potential to be godly, its the developers who are lazy.”

To be honest, I think it’s unfair to always blame the devs for being lazy. The reality is, game developement is VERY difficult, and there are many factors which will determine the end result. What we have seen however, is that for multi-format games, whenever they develop the 360 and PS3 version seperately (COD4) or they make the PS3 the lead format (Burnout, Soul Calibur, DMC4, Mirror’s Edge), the 360 and PS3 version are still on par with each other, with the PS3 having a slight edge in a few cases, just as the 360 has a slight edge in others.

“If killzone 2 doesn’t really go over the border on graphics and gameplay then i will keep my mouth shut on the ps3.”

I’m sure Killzone will deliver. It ticks all the boxes I mentioned above, which is a highly talented developer, with all the resources they need (thanks to Sony), and it’s been 4 years in the making (and counting).

You’ve done it again GamerFeed!
Out of all these posters you got my thumbs up , i can always tell when someone is talking crap or doesn’t know what his talking about but your not one of them.
Its true though, Game developing is probably one of the hardest jobs but i do have a question as to why some games look ridiculous on ps3 and yet stunning on 360, i have heard of the 360 having a better graphic card but have you seen the comparison? Its shocking! Thats a perfect example of developers being lazy and not coding it correctly. Yet they charge more for the ps3 version :S
I hope your right about killzone, , 4 years in the making and probably most of it because of the difficulty of making a good game on ps3, apparently its much harder to make games on ps3 then it is on 360.
When you said lead format and quoted some games like dmc4 and soul calibur 4, do they actually look better on the ps3?

@ gamer

Never said it wasn’t possible for 1080p over component . Any way, I’m going to make this short too. I personally own a PS3, out of what I consider to be a better buy and a longer life cycle. That said, I don’t believe that 360 is close to being “tapped out” of power. This really does come down to the developer. Each developer has their own ways of manipulating systems to get the results that they STRIVE for. Strive is key here, cause time and time again especially on the PS3 we’ve seen a mediocre performance by developers, be it bad ports, or any other host of issues. I do believe that we will start to see the PS3 pull away here shortly, in terms of graphics and the size of games. There has been a lot of debate about exclusives lately, and I would be curious to see if an exlusive is only deteremined by the size of the game. Would the 360 be shorted x # of levels, as not to sacrifice quality, and the PS3 have extra content? Would it be delieverd to the 360 via DLC? Would a game be broken into sequals or multiple disks for the 360? Or would MS be looking for other way to even the bar? What I’m getting at here is that these are 2 powerful consoles, they have their differences, and it will either be up to the parent company, or the developer to get the maximum out of both consoles, and hopefully without sacrificing quality for either one.

Brilliant. Very funny banter at the start of this but got a bit tiresome… sorry to say.

Anyway, I just wanted to say I bought FC2 on the PS3 last week – looks great to me.

@peto iceland and to many ignorant / fanboys the consoles come equip to run their product as far as 360 getting better looking games isnot due to ps3 maxxed none of the consoles can be maxxed ignorant consoles got limits just like pc ps3 and xbox both are 512 no matter how to look at it xbox has two kind of ram usage , ps3 has three xdr,gddr3,sram the ps3 doesn’t need to unifed for total access ps3 get it via (eib) anyway xbox gpu is faster for a reason 360 is separate from cpu so it needs to be faster to transfers data on time to make( short ) ignorant will start posting false statements to be pretenders true tech they wont tell you dev work with what they got dev are doing poor with ps3 if u know what im saying between ps3 and ps2 is that 3 is 40+ so in others words there is no excuse if u dont belive look it up as far as games now ps3 are looking way better than 360 STOP beeing a fanboy just like alot of u

hey gamerfeed i think that u shouldn’t come sides ways dev are responsible to deliver now the only way porcentage is measure is by poly count that shouldn’t be the customers bussines gear is not in anyway better than uncharted u are just a fanboy 360 has nothing to answer to killzone 2 yes 360 can do it but it wouldn’t come out like ps3 due to hardware pluses that sony got over MICROSOFT u post like bill gates in the end u are wrong the 360 has ner been underestimate in anyway ignorants like u are try to make people believe that the 360 is superior hey im gamer for all and ??????????????

Violento ‘wrote’: ” hey gamerfeed ….u are just a fanboy 360 has nothing to answer to killzone 2… in anyway ignorants like u …”

Violento, the purpose here is to have a DISCUSSION. If you disagree with points I’ve raised, fine, but please act like an ADULT and put your viewpoints across in a mature manner.

It’s people like you who often spoil forums because instead of discussing points in a sensible way, you ALWAYS seem to be looking for a fight, and therefore you insult/attack others.

Therefore I’m not going to lower myself to the level you’ve shown here by responding to anything you’ve said, but instead I’ll respond to those who’ve shown they are capable of holding a discussion, even when they disagree with some of the points being raised.

Virjel and Bish, thanks for the replies, you’ve raised some interesting points. However, it’s late at the moment and I have to get up early for work tomorrow, therefore instead of typing out a quite reply, I’ll return here soon when I have enough time to offer a proper response. (Ok, that’s it …time for bed…….. Zzzzzzz).

has giving? just give up on writing.

wana a cookie for post the so call discussion well said is so people say their opinion and respect the others u been posting stupip reply from the start the fact is that you are a fanboy and when you are blind by that word other get off the handle anyway you don’t want a discussion you just wana post your opinion and false statements and try to make believe that your SMART the level that i’m in the way you act yes you are not in my u right

Virjel, keeing in mind the difficulty of game developement, and the fact that the PS3 is known to be more difficult to develop games… think about it this way, if you put two seperate teams to develop the same game on 360 and PS3, which verison is likely to be in a finshed state first? Wouldn’t you say the version on the console which is easier to develop on? And add to that the fact but because the 360 offer a ‘nicer’ developement environment (accodring to devs) and has a larger user base, most multi-format games lead on the 360, which means the PS3 version will lag behind.

So when the 360/PC version of a game is near completion, devs often find the PS3 is behind the 360 version for one or all of the above reasons, and therefore have to decide if it’s worth delaying the release to get it up to the standard seen on the 360. Often, it doesn’t make financial sense to delay, therefore as long as the PS3 version is good enough, then the game will be released.

Those devs who have enough resources can put two seperate teams onto each version, as happened with COD4 where they put their best programmers to work on the PS3 version;

http://play.tm/wire/click/1615468/

“We had our best programmers on the PS3 [version of Call of Duty] and it shows”

And it did show, since both versions were on par with each other.

For games that lead on the PS3, you have a similar situation to that mentioned above, except this time it’s the PS3 version ahead and the 360 version lagging behind. Hence for those games, the 360 version is either on par with the PS3 version or slightly lower (but not by much). As time goes on, more and more devs are beginning to realize that to get the best out of both versions, they need to either lead on the more difficult console (the PS3), or have two seperate teams on each console.

Hence my point is, it’s rarely due to laziness, it’s usually due to the fact that the PS3 version lags behind the 360 version during developement, and therefore it often doesn’t make financial sense to delay the finished game to spend months improving the other version in a way which most gamers wouldn’t notice (or care about) anyway (unless they play both versions side by side), meaning slightly worse PS3 versions of many multi-format games.

gamersfeed need facts ubi is not the best that just for pc and on every game multi that is has fail when porting the 360 has only has the edge on some cross format i pesonaly would recommend to keep your mind open on circumstances all your posts have been bias not taking in considered the true facts like for one 360 came out first ,dev wanted easy , you can port from pc ,cheaper ok .ps3 has to make short new technology add came a year later and it not a walk in the park to dev for but as time goes ps3 has come from way behind and match and surpass the 360 in textures , audio ,visual . and games example most multi cross has been ps3′s way 360 has been lacking in many areas but fanboys only post when leaning torch their benefit read again your bias post and read mines i recognize 360 strong points that why i bough it but fanboys need to realize that ps3 in the long run we’ll run the 360 aside like it’s doing now games this generation are growing rapidly in terms of space and graphics if you are a REAL tech then

Bish wrote: “What I’m getting at here is that these are 2 powerful consoles, they have their differences, and it will either be up to the parent company, or the developer to get the maximum out of both consoles, and hopefully without sacrificing quality for either one.”

That’s right, I couldn’t agree more.

Anyway, you’ve effectively answered your own question regarding those differences. Both the PS3 and 360 are superb consoles with advantages and disadvantages (despite certain gamers here who seem to think one console only has advantages and the other only has disadvantages!), and therefore each console will have it’s strengths and weaknesses.

However, for every weakness (less space on DVD compared to Blu-ray, slower Blu-ray drive compared to DVD, less RAM for games in PS3 compared to 360, less floating-point power in 360′s CPU compared to Cell etc) there are multiple solutions and workarounds available, and therefore the situation is rarely as dire as some people say. Hence when you look back at some of the worse-case predictions made about the 360 and PS3′s ‘weaknesses’ in the past, they tend not to be the huge problem some made them out to be.

@ gamer

You’ve got it all wrong. This is a comment page, you’re supposed to disagree with everything i say. Then we proceed to flame each other. Now look what you’ve done! You’ve effectively taken all the argument out of everything.. For this I hate you, how are we supposed to conduct proper comment flaming fanboy abuse??
=)

@ Bish

Yeah, you’re right, I just wasn’t thinking.

Oops, I’ve done it again, hehehe.

hey bish i don’t know where did you got that info ps3 has 512mb just like 360 in fact ps3 is way faster and more powerful anyway there both good consoles i give you that but top end ps3.now a fanboy will say ignorant comments that aggravate people there thousands sites with false statements so call tech predicting the ps3 and so far all been wrong and i for one own both and online i prefer 360 but graphics ps3 all the comparisons on the web most are fake cause i’ve all multi cross anyway this is now and developers need to work a bit harder , look at uncharted witch holds the graphics king i think that developers should spit out in term graphics no quality plus people dont wanna pay money on a game that has glitches all over like fallout3

@ Violento,

I don’t know where you got your information that I posted that, cause I didn’t. I could go on a rant here about how you keep posting fanboy comments, but I won’t. I suggest that you take the time to re-read my posts.

I am a PS3 owener, and I would suggest to you to get off uncharted’s nuts as it is not ( from what I can tell from your translations) Graphics king.

@bish my fault for the future next time don’t be gansta and as far as uncharted it is is not mgs4 or any 360 title its a fact but i can tell u know s…t do some homework

I rest my case.

Violento, right now, I’m about to go out to meet some friends, however later, and just this once, I will respond to some of the false information you have posted here (opinions aside, since you’re entitled to those).

@violento

…………………….. First I would like to ask you what your deffinition of ignorant is. Second, either post in your official language so that I can find a program that does better translation, as picking through your translation is damn near useless. But what I can gather from your last statement is that you’re saying that I don’t know shit, and that I need to do homework… On what? On the fact that when Uncharted came out that it was one of the best looking games? We all know that, it was is a great looking game, I’m simply stateting that it’s not graphics king.

Then you tell me not to go all gangsta….

So let me get this straight, and you can tell me if I’m right. You are the CONSOLE GOD, everyone bows to your almighty wisdom of console knowledge. Your opinion is defines the age of technology. Everyone else is “ignorant”, and you know best ( even though your translation does not imply this).

So in short I’m assuming that your published.. GREAT THEN LET ME SEE SOME OF YOUR REVIEWS, CAN’T WAIT, I”LL MAKE NOTES, and hinge my whole purchasing of games/consoles on your devine knowledge.

p.s. I’m assuming that everyone here understands that my typos are direct jabs.

Hmm, looks like my comments didn’t post before. Well heres what it said in short.

Violento, you’re a F**king idiot.

It was nicer than that but I don’t feel like wasting my time rewriting a sugar coated statement when I could just skip to the point.

Don’t call me a gangsta, don’t tell me I need to do my homework, your word is not the divine intervention that everyone seeks. Umm what else did it say… Oh yeah, in the future either post in your official language so that I can find a program that better translates, becuase picking through your paragraphs is about as useless as me impregnating your mother for a better future of your families genes.

In short, get off my case, nothing was ever directly related to you, I really don’t like when people start personally attacking me. If you would like to open pandoras box, fine, one more forum ban wouldn’t affect my sleeping patterns.

Gamerfeed
It makes sense since the ps3 is a harder console to make games on. Though the comparisons are sometimes very obvious comparend on high definition Tv’s. In conclusion i will stick to the console that produces better entertainment, so far the 360 is in the lead by a longshot. My ps3 is dusty and unused, i only use it if i want to watch blue ray movies

Playstation 3 Video Review at :

http://www.techreviews4u.com/?p=2246

Violento, here’s my response as promised….

Before I start, wading through your difficult to read English, you appear to say neither the 360 nor PS3 are maxed out, and if that’s what you’re saying, then you’re correct.

Anyway, you said “uncharted the only true 1080p is ps3 not 360″

True 1080p as you call it is 1920*1080. Uncharted runs at 960*1080 (half the horizontal resolution), where the PS3 upscales the horizontal resolution to 1920. So no, Uncharted is NOT TRUE 1080p as you claim.

http://www.gamebrink.com/blog/2007/11/15/most-hd-game-resolutions-not-even-720p-let-alone-1080p

“Uncharted (PS3) 960×1080 in 1080p”

It’s an interesting article, but feel free to search the internet if you’re still in denial

Also, you regard Uncharted as the “graphics king” this gen, however did you know that all the cut-scenes are pre-rendered? They were created using the game-engine on a PS3 devkit, but they are not running in realtime on your PS3 as you play the game, those are just videos! From what you’re saying here, I can only assume you actually believe the cut-scenes in Uncharted are realtime graphics!

http://rr.ps3.ign.com/rrview/ps3/uncharted_drakes_fortune/812550/79802/

“The times when this game looks its best are in the cutscenes, which unfortunately, are pre-rendered. It stinks because they pretend to be real time but there is a clear distinction, especially by the end of the game, between the pre-rendered stuff and the real time stuff.”

Still don’t believe it? Then listen to the devs, Naughty-Dog;

http://www.psu.com/PSU-talks-Uncharted-with-Naughty-Dog-Co-Vice-President–a0001851-p1.php

“Talking about movies, I wanted to mention they are pre-render using our engine on the PlayStation 3. The only reason we did this was to eliminate any loading time before or after a movie and make our memory management easier.”

During gameplay, the jungle enviornments are very nice, and I love some of the little touches like your character’s clothing getting wet, but the gameplay graphics are nothing special by today’s standards. Hence I find games like MGS4 to be more impressive, especially since the cut-scenes in MGS4 ARE running in realtime (unlike Uncharted), and therefore are technically more impressive!

Also, you said “ps3 and xbox both are 512 no matter how to look at it xbox has two kind of ram usage , ps3 has three xdr,gddr3,sram”

You’re distorting it a little there, if you’re talking about 512MB RAM in the console, then generally speaking, it’s 512MB GDDR3 on the 360 for both the CPU (Xenon) and the GPU (Xenos) and on the PS3 it’s 256MB GDDR3 for the GPU (RSX) and 256MB XDR for the CPU (Cell). Other memory within those consoles have very specific uses, such as the 10MB of EDRAM within the 360′s GPU and 256KB in each SPE within the PS3′s Cell processor. So let’s not mix those up with the 512MB of memory for the consoles. But more on the memory later….

You said “the only way porcentage is measure is by poly count that shouldn’t be the customers bussines”, the percentage used is NOT determined by the number of polygons being pushed within a period of time. It’s a crude estimate based upon how much certain devs believe they are pushing the CPU and GPU and on how much more they BELIEVE the CPU and GPU may be pushed in future. At best, it’s simply devs making an “intelligent guess”, but that’s all they are, i.e. guesses, NOT facts.

“hey bish i don’t know where did you got that info ps3 has 512mb just like 360″

Yes, that was ME not Bish, and I clearly said “RAM for games”. Not all of 512MB is available for games, the operating system (OS) of BOTH consoles needs to take some of that memory for it’s own use. The 360′s OS requires 32MB for everything, leaving 480MB for games to use. The PS3′s OS requires a minimum of 72MB, leaving 440MB or less for games to use. Hence that’s one of the problems facing devs when porting from 360 to PS3. The good thing is, it’s improving on the PS3, since the OS used to required 96MB, but it’s still more than double that of the 360.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rearview-mirrors-ahead/sony-adds-new-features-to-ps3-sdk-lowers-memory-requirements-292956.php

Search/google the internet for ps3+360+memory+footprint for more information

You also said “ps3 is way faster and more powerful ”

Actually, they are both similar, with the 360 probably having a slight edge with it’s GPU, the PS3 having a slight edge with it’s CPU, and overall the PS3 having a slight over the 360 (for devs able to take advantage of the hardware).

Long post I know, but I had a lot to say.

Hmmm, well I had responded to you violento, but maybe the post was deleted for being too long? Perhaps I’ll try again later (with a shorter version).

^^^^ Ah, there it is.

Ok, I see how it works now. My long post should appear above after it’s been validated by the mods, which hasn’t happened yet (at the time of this post).

*watches tumbleweeds as they roll by in the strong winds*

Just thought id say for the morons who are making shit up about 1080p n s***…..

Upscaling is a method used for games what only support 720p and obviously upscale the graphics to make them better . This doesnt mean Xbox doesnt support 1080p just loads of game devs cant be botherd to make them its a waste of there time they must think.
While i am and always will be a ps3 since i would like to point out and most probably now chat some shit about the ps3 seeming as everyone else has done

PS3 supports blueray – Xbox doesnt (you have to pay for a HD DVD reader , messy , and isnt as good as blueray still.

ALLPS3 Disks have a special coating making them some what scratch resistant
not alot tho.
PS3 modders are delighted the PS3 accepts 2.5″ hardrives the same one what could be in you laptop right now. At the back of the PS3 anyone could take one out and replace with a new 1
I CANT BE ASSED SITTIN HERE ALL DAY LIKE MOST OF U DO (CHRIS) AND CHAT S*** BWT WHICH IS BETTR

PS3 IS FUKIN BETTER 360 IS OLD AS S*** NOWWW
F*** U IF U DOUBT ME

@Rob H

You were going so well until those ‘PS3 fanboy’ remarks at the end.

The fact that you prefer PS3 makes the PS3 the better console for YOU, but that doesn’t make it a better console than the 360. I have both consoles, I enjoy both, and it is clear to me that neither console is better than the other, but instead each have their strengths and weaknesses, and therefore each have a lot to offer gamers.

Strange coincidence how I just so happened to take a look at this topic shortly after you posted, but anyway, have a happy New Year.

360/ps3 – who knows which is better. ps3 is statistically WAY more reliable and has arguably more creative/experimental games, which appeals to me.

i am definitely a fanboy, so i’m going to take a moment to clear something up -
someone posted earlier in this area.
someone said something about the ps3 processor operating like a P3 750 mhz?!
shocking how baldfaced a troll can be. no, there are 6 available spes to developers running at 3.2 ghz. the technology is newer than the p4, i’m pretty sure, so, yeah. why do people even bother with the lies?

@chris wtf are you talking about both have the upscaler chip retard now 360 is better why cause is ms. get real the 360 isn’t true 1080p and the only sys being maxxed out this are true facts from top developers that have made 360 as their favorite advise leave the spec out of your head ps3 have proven the real cangri