Download Google Chrome Web Browser: Microsoft and Mozilla killer

¨could this be a Microsoft and Mozilla killer¨

Silly you. Obviously, you aren´t very acquainted with ¨open source¨. Mozilla´s offerings are open source, Chrome is open source, that means they can play well together. Anything that Mozilla finds useful in Chrome, they can incorporate into the Mozilla family of browsers. Chrome already borrowed from Mozilla.

Microsoft, on the other hand, may suffer from Chrome´s release. As more people understand what open source really is, they are going to dump proprietary trash that they are unable to alter to their own purposes.

That IS what open source is all about: if you don´t like it, change it to suit yourself!!

“Today you will be able to download the new Google Chrome Web Browser, it is not sure what time the download will be ready, but we will keep you informed.”

Better if I change my Job……….. can’t go on and see sites like this one…..

well, first need to get for i give my opinion =P

Ha Ha April Fools everybody!!!

Are you certain this isn’t another one of Google’s many jokes? Hence the comic book announcement.

looking forward to it, Google makes some high quality software

Runaway1956, Microsoft can benefit for the same reason that Mozilla can benefit. Just because IE isn’t open source, doesn’t mean Microsoft can’t take advantage of the open source Chrome. People aren’t just going to dump “proprietary trash”. Making something open source doesn’t mean that it can be instantly modified by the masses. I’m all for open source but you can’t expect it to correct all problems. Only the smallest conceivable percentage of users would be interested in learning enough to code their own tweaks into open source software.

Think about PCs as an analogy. The information for building your own PC has been around for as long as PCs have. What percentage of PC users, do you think, know how or are interested enough in building their own?

Google browser Chrome is not going to come even close to Microsoft. There is no way they can beat Microsoft in browser technology…..

Just let us d/l it already, the suspense is killing me!!!!!!!

Key,

You’re fired.

Yours Truely

@ coupland: witness the myriad of addons for the Mozilla family of browsers. Show me the equivalent for IE…………

The reason I say another open source browser may hurt IE, is that Microsoft will not open source THEIR browser, so that users worldwide can improve on it. Those people who WANT to hack browsers and make them better, are working for people like – oh, let me think – oh – how about GOOGLE and MOZILLA!! Those people who DO NOT work for Google and Mozilla, but still want to hack a browser are going to work on Google or Mozilla browsers, or some other OPEN SOURCE browser. They CANNOT work on IE. It is proprietary, it is trash, and the people who care can not change a thing about it.

@ key: EVERYBODY beats microsoft with their browser technology! IE is the least standards compliant browser on the market, the most bloated, and the least tweakable.

There are less chances for popularity of IE getting hurt. The reason behind it is that many people do not even know there is any browser other than IE. IE is still popular despite the fact that Mozilla Firefox is way ahead of it.

I just hope we don’t need to write our code to accommodate ANOTHER browser. Please oh please be similar to Firefox!

“Google browser Chrome is not going to come even close to Microsoft. There is no way they can beat Microsoft in browser technology…..”

Great lame quote above. This must be Bill Gates chiming in. Almost everybody I know and almost everybody on the internet feels that IE sucks big time. Even IE 8 sucks huge. IE 8 is only usable if you enable IE 7 emulation. You can bet everyone will download Google Chrome and give it a try. If they like it, goodbye to IE and Firefox forever. I got news for you IE freakin’ sucks!!!

“Google browser Chrome is not going to come even close to Microsoft. There is no way they can beat Microsoft in browser technology…..”

HAHA – are you joking? Microsoft’s browser isn’t even standards compliant for several things. In their almighty wisdom they chose to not include some things which make it hell for the rest of web developers in the world creating cross browser compliant websites a pain in the rear as we have to include stylesheets specifically for IE6, IE7, and NOW IE8!

I HATE Microsoft…. wast so much time on IE crap. FireFox has only really started gaining popularity over the past few years, but one thing that beats IE hands down is the plugin system. Lets see Microsoft release IE as open source then maybe we can have a civilized conversation, yeah?

Runaway1956 you are funny, great entertainment. I love arguments fueled by opinions and not by facts!

@Runaway1956,

You don’t get it! Do you???

Everything opensource ends up on the list of obsoletes. It’s simple economics…You pay for a product, you WILL get the service. I am no advocate of MS, but we live in a capitalist world. Having been in this industry for sometime now, I know the pain of using an unsupported product. I don’t have time to read through 500 pages to code a fix or enhancement to an open source product. I would rather pick up the phone and call the customer service rep at MS or Oracle and ask for help since I have paid for their product.

Yes, there are and always will be people who flock for freebies and I guess these opensource products are meant for those. But they use these at their own risk

Firefox got tabs = IE got tabs. Microsoft didn’t have to open source IE code to take advantage of developments in open source browsers. The point I’m making is, IE can still take on any changes that are introduced out there. Open sourced competitors don’t make IE weaker. It actually makes it stronger. I use Firefox for the majority of my browsing and I’ll check out Chrome but delude yourself by thinking IE is going anywhere.

Linux was first released in 1991, just 6 years after the first release of Windows. Now, 17 years later and Linux is still barely a blip (like 1% marketshare). Open Source is awesome and useful, I use a ton of it. But it’s like free R&D for Microsoft and Apple. Even Apple (also propretary software) has made larger gains in market share than has other open source competitors like Linux (Mac OS is up to around 7.3% market share).

@Runaway1956:

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with you on the open source angle. In fact, I tend to share a lot of your points about the power of open source, but having said that, I believe that Coupland also has a valid opinion.

When I think of the IE/Mozilla argument, I think of me and my dad. I’m a web developer and software engineer so I value the options that I have with an open source browser like Chrome. On the other hand, I think of someone like my dad who has only recently gotten a new computer and how he will never, ever use any browser except for IE, simply because it was there and available. He’ll learn to use IE and will get comfortable with it.

Is that to say that I’m all knowing and that he’s an idiot? Absolutely not, my father is an intelligent man. But the mass audience of users who pull their pretty Dell computers out of the box will most likely just stick with the browser that they are comfortable with. In most cases, that happens to be the one that is already installed and ready to go on their computers.

Simply put, to people who don’t know the details of browser technology, all it is to them is a neat little window that displays their web site content of choice.

I always find it interesting when little children talk. Runaway1956 if you had any business experience, and don’t tell me you do cause working 5 or 10 years as a hack isn’t business experience, then you would know that open source isn’t always the best. Quite frankly the best use for open source is to get ideas to incorporate into a proprietary system. Once, as a business, you have open source you loose control of your business. People can copy and use all of your ideas easily. Look at Linux. There are companies that sell a version of it but are they as large as MS? Do they even make money? The measure of a successful business is if they are profitable.

Sure Apple uses a version but they run it on a proprietary hardware system. Except for a few thousand units sold a number of years ago no one is allowed to build an Apple. So for them it doesn’t matter if their OS is open source or not, their hardware is.

The bottom line is people feel secure with a large company that produce solid, if boring, software. From a business perspective most companies will not allow anyone to use anything on their system other than approved sofyware that was paid for legally. Shareware and open source is not allowed unless the IT department installs it on the various PCs. Sure you will be able to point to a company that doesn’t lock down their desktops and allows employees to install any softweare they want to but by and large most moderate to large national and international companies will not. It’s safer and easier to support.

So if MS’s browser is behind in functions who really cares except a few geeks and children that have nothing to do all day except complain. As for me, give me a company that will support me when I need it and a product that does exactly what I need, and in this case I need the ability to look up information and do research and that works just fine for me. When the day is done I go relax with a good bottle of wine, a fine meal and my best friend my wife.

When you grow up you will do the same thing but until then enjoy bitching it’s the only thing you can do for free.

Unfortunately, IE will never leave as long as Microsoft is around, which I do not foresee changing any time soon. I doubt Firefox will go anywhere either, because a large chunk of its users are fanboys/girls. Both will improve from the new features, and possibly come out with their own to challenge the new competitor.
As for FirstWorlder’s argument against Chrome, remember that this is not your typical open source project. Chrome is being introduced by the only computer behemoth to actually provide a noticeable challenge to Microsoft. We do not have to pay them for their support for any other applications, and I doubt we’ll have to pay for it with this one, and remember that just because you pay the most for Microsoft does NOT mean that you’re getting the best product. The Windows ’95 legacy code still being used in the current Windows kernels comes to mind…
As far as I see it, because of its open source nature, Chrome will contribute greatly to the browser world, without forcing a dramatic change in power. I, for one, am excited to try Chrome and can’t wait to see all it’s new features, and I can’t wait to see how Mozilla incorporates and improves these features

Clearly, people who think they “get it” are the ones who really don’t get it. Probably all closet Bill Gates asskissers no less. We are talking about a browser, not some overly technical gizmo that needs 200 pages of written instruction on how to use. You need the support of a Fortune 500 company to use a browser to surf the internet and to do basic internet activities? So you would feel better if your browser was backed by a huge corporation? And who said Microsoft will be done in by Google or that IE will be finished off by Chrome? At least have the ability to be honest rather than just blindly suck up to Microsoft products. Most people hate MS products because they suck. It’s not some bizarre envy or jealousy. Their products absolutely are horrid. And for people who work at an office, unfortunately MS and PC are necessary and unavoidable evils. Most people begrudgingly use them because they have to; not because they feel that they are superior. Mozilla engines and Apple products are superior; not Microsoft and not PC. And again, we are talking about a browser. Nobody cares what you eat, drink, or do with your wife. Make a relevant argument that clearly is not biased. And the only people who speak highly of MS products are people who seldom use the computer or have any technical experience or has a job that is heavily reliant on computers. Nobody is complaining against IE because of lack of trivial functions. People complain against it because it sucks.

I tried it and I’m still laughing. No matter what url I tried to visit all I got was “Connecting…” but never connected. Even Netscape 1.0 had more features than Chrome has.

@ Dwight L. Stegall
I’m using Chrome right. I think it’s barebones on purpose. Perhaps as they mentioned or perhap they’re collecting data (related to their collection of ‘usage statistics’ as indicated in the options)
I have used browsers since Windows 95 and each version of IE has, unfortunately, been too problematic for me not to try something else. And I am a software whore and have no problem switching to the best software pimp (lol) to rid myself of a flawed product.
Speaking of flaws, why do these developers not take privacy more serious? I’ve always used something called sandboxie, a file shredder, and truecrypt to sandbox my browsing, encrypt the temporary files and etc. and when done, I shred the sandbox contents.
The ‘In Private’, ‘Incognito’, etc. should have been priority years ago… oh, and being able to save sessions as in Opera would be VERY good.

Haha !!! I just tried the google browser … they must be kidding … what tragic trash.

Dwight,

How do you know that “private” mode shreds its temp files? Google only says it “erases” history. What does that mean? You are correct, no one takes privacy seriously. They can’t even use the correct terminology. Will someone who has looked at the source please post what precisely is happening.

Lee, Lee, Lee

Seems that all you can add to the discussion is “Most people hate MS products”. Have you taken a survey? Are you including just your friends? Are you an apologist for Apple? Who really cares what you think? The fact is that no major company will use Firefox or Chrome. They don’t let their employees use the Google toolbar. There’s a reason for that which is obviouly beyond your pay grade so let me take a minute to explain.

First, corporations determine what software is purchased and therefore what gets used. Outside of the gaming and porn industries which are hugh in revenue no one uses or pays for software like corporations. Most people who respond to sites like this are freeloaders and only want to use software that doesn’t cost them anything. So it’s not surprising that you hate MS. You have to pay to use their products. You don’t if you use Linux.

Back to why companyies use MS products by and large. They do so for standards reasons. The same reason that many that took the time to write their opinions here mentioned. Open source is great but it has no stadards. It can’t be purchased with support and it may not be around next week. As much as you don’t like MS, and as much as I don’t, there is no other good option.

What you don’t seem to understand is it not just the browser. Many have come and gone. Remember Netscape? It was the domenant player and got blown away by MS. Why? It’s because companies want an integrated solution thatis easy to support. They don’t care about innovations. It’s just a browser. It’s purpose is to get information from and through the net. Who cares if it has tabs or ribbons or other wonderfully new features. It’s just a brower and for business that’s what is important.

A perfect example is Quicktime. QT is so much better than Windows Media Player. We use it in out our company that produces Interactive Multi-media. Our biggest problem, which has been so for over 12 years, is most major corporations do not install QT as part of their basic installation. This is the same with browsers. It the reason that QT is still not a major player in the corporate world. Why install two pieces of software if one that comes with the OS is there already? I’m not saying that this argument is a good one just a realistic one. No different that betamax vs VHS tapes.

So grasshopper, the leason for you to learn today is not what is better but what decisions corp IT people make. They take the road of least resistence. As long as this road is MS it really doesn’t matter if you think MS sucks. It irrelavent. If you learn this lesson today then I have done my job of passing on my wisdom to you.

BTW, if you saw my wife you wouldn’t say “Nobody cares what you eat, drink, or do with your wife”. She’s Hot and if you are lucky enough to have a good looking women then maybe you would stop being so angry.

Have a great day.

Zog,

You either a) haven’t really tried it (installing and loading up a generic home page doesn’t count as ‘trying’, b) work for Microshaft, or c) have no relevant experience with browsers at all beyond how well they load up 50 myspace pages of underage boys.

On a more productive note however, I did like that the firebug features were enhanced and included with chrome. Has anyone found an option to include the frame in the browser window the same way firebug acts on Firefox? I use this plugin notoriously, and I’m definitely excited to see what chrome has to offer in terms of web developer tools. We are still ages away from having to test our layouts in multiple browsers before live-site releases, but Chrome seems to be a browser that can help us isolate slow loading pages and crank out some seriously high-performance websites regardless of the browser.

I think it will be most reliable browser,Bcoz it”s google’s products

So,Hurry up
&
gets a lot fun with another google products

Thanks google

hmmm…i guess it wont be easy for chrome to replace monoploy of IE in web browswer..First in the era of this compettion IE stands taller alone..second i don think chrome is like miracle..it is just another browser with some new added feature..like the status that google have as search engine same thing is also apply for IE as web -browser…moreover it will be highly interesting to see how does google prove itself in the field of web-browser…finally it will be foolish anticipation to see launch of chrome as downfall of IE

Its not just the browser specs that make up a “Competitive browser” today. Do any one knows the name of browsers such as Amaya (Educational one)? Google will be able to provide more and MORE of features really (the widgets, picasa, youtube, gmail, g chat, calender, docs etc), Even the FF3 browser identifies phishing site using Google’s POWER only, The GEARS technology should be much improvised in their browser, the google desktop might be in sync with their browser., widgets number will obviously be more and useful. Overall it is going to eat out the browser share very significantly.
I just would not compare this to IE, coz its already proven to be THE MOST VULNERABLE browser on earth.
Google – Will you come up with a OS also soon !!??

Nobody has mentioned anything about its speed. The difference between single threaded page loading (IE/FF/Etc) and multi-threaded style page loading (Chrome only so far, unless someone knows of another no-name browser that does it). The built in task manager is just the coolest thing as a dev.

@Mike Young

For the most part I was listening to your argument and slightly agreeing with you (regardless of your condescending attitude) until I got to this quote:

“Back to why companyies use MS products by and large. They do so for standards reasons. The same reason that many that took the time to write their opinions here mentioned. Open source is great but it has no stadards. It can’t be purchased with support and it may not be around next week. As much as you don’t like MS, and as much as I don’t, there is no other good option.”

If we’re talking about the browser only, IE has never been standards compliant. Never. The W3C has had the standards for web development posted and updated for over a decade now and not once has IE ever made the effort to be compliant.

On the flip side, Firefox and now Chrome are standards compliant. Because of this, my job as a Web Developer has been workable. The research that you claim to need is only there because I was able to do my job.

Otis

I don’t agree with you about my condescending attitude, however that’s ok it’s what you preceive and that’s what counts to you.

As far as standards it’s important to distinguish what a group of people setup vs what the business world accepts. Firefox and Chrome could be so standards compliant that evryone loves them and that it makes it so much easier to do your job. That just doesn’t matter for large companies. Again remember my premise that they have hugh IT budgets and by default they drive what eventually gets bought, outside of games and porn which have their own large following. If I am correct, and I know I am having spent years on both sides of the table, selling and buying IT related services, then there is no way that any standards that do not match with MS have a chance of making an indent into sales of MS products. As soon as IE came out the IT world moved to accept it and all of it’s faults. Why, because it made it’s life easier. One installation and complete integration. Other browsers add unneeded complexity that requires extra effort and dollars.

One also needs to ask why Google created Chrome. My understanding is to challege MS in MS’s basic business, selling software. They want to be able to sell alternatives to Office and other MS dominant products. Their concept seems to be that people would rather pay a little at a time to use web based products than buying software that is installed on stand alone PCs. Seems logical but I’m real confident that it is misplaced for a number of reasons.

Many companies have tried this business model. Specifically companies like Citrix who sell Thin Clients. Great idea but not one that has taken the business world by storm. Biggest problem is all of your PCs are out of service if the server goes down or if there is an interruption in connectivity. Google will face the same problems. In addition why be held hostage to a company that you pay for services forever? One other import point is many companies still use win95. You would be amazed how many still haven’t made the change to 98 or XP. The main reason is what they mostly have to do runs on 95 just as well as it does on 98, 2000, XP, Vista or any Server based software. Why change or upgrade?

I realize that I have ramblled and may not be on target but the bottom line is standards are what most accept as standards. Doesn’t matter if something is better. We all know of products that were better but the most comonally accept products were the ones that set the standards. Just look at Betamax vs VHS or the IBM’s Micro Channel Bus vs the standard PC bus. MCA was superior but it came with a price. The PC bus was free. Now I know you will use this as an argument for Chrome. But it isn’t. Chrome is not free for a company. There are costs associated with it’s installation and support and most everyday people are familiar with IE, they use it at home and it makes the learning curve easier. Training and support cost are much larger than the initial purchase cost and that’s why companies will stay with IE for the near future.

Because of this, my job as a Web Developer has been workable

Thank you, Otis.

@ Mike: You are alright with corporate America deciding what is best? Awesome. You have some concept of life, I must say. I HATE to bring politics into this sort of discussion – but you should visit the New American Century´s homepage. Basically, corporate America envisions everyone in the world working to make a buck for the Wall Street crowd.

Not my idea of Utopia, at least.

The point is – what is best for Corporate America may not be what is best for you, or for me, or for the kid down the street, or for the generations to be born.

Ultimately, Microsoft´s legacy to the world will be that they delayed development of computer science. And, Internet Explorer is part of that delay.

Look at Java. MS switched horses in the middle of the stream multiple times on that. First, it was unimportant, then it was terribly important, so they worked with outsiders. Then, it was so terribly important that they ¨developed¨ their own. Finally, a case was won by Sun, and Microsoft´s Java machine was abandoned.

It would have been BEST for MICROSOFT if the case had gone in Microsoft´s favor, of course.

Ho-hum. Way off track, but pertinent to your arguments.

very good

@Runaway

It’s funny. I much preferred Microsoft’s java client. It wasn’t some kind of nagging annoying software that refused to unload from the system tray. It loaded from Internet Explorer when it was needed and that was it. There was nothing to support. Working in tech services, I can tell you that it’s been annoying for novice users and they’d rather not deal with it.

@Mike Young

I’m not disagreeing with you that the standards that most people use (business and personal) are those that most people will find easier to both adapt to and implement. IE has 65% of the market share simply because it is build with Microsoft Windows in all of it’s incarnations, and because of this reaches the most people worldwide. As I’ve said before, I think of my father who uses IE because it’s there, it’s intuitive for him, and it’s simply a window to the internet.

However, we’re talking about 2 different types of standards. W3C standards are those that explain the coding involved in creating web sites and what should be supported by all browsers. In this way, the same code will work for IE, Firefox, Netscape, Opera, Safari, and now Chrome. From a business perspective, when you want to inform potential customers of your products and services, it would be in the best interest of that entity to be able to present that information to all members of the market.

This is IE’s shortfall. Microsoft has been consistently lacking in being standard compliant, and that is MY issue specifically with IE. The business reasons for supporting IE as a large portion of the market is definitely there, and I agree with you for the most part in that portion of the argument. However, for a browser who basically controls the largest portion of the market share to be non-standards compliant is not only detrimental to those who wish to find services and products to buy, but ultimately costs those corporations more money in general to develop those services to be accessible to customers using IE.

The standards set by the market is definitely well defined and I have no arguments there regarding choice of browser.

However, even Microsoft has agreed to follow the standards of the W3C since just about every other major competitive browser developer has also done so. The fact that they haven’t is both tragic and detrimental to not only those corporations that support it, but also those customers who use it.

google chrome is the best

I am so very pleased that Google understands browser Hell. I look forward to trying something new! Hopefully responsive and less selfish or manipulative than others. I must be sending 5 or 10 error reports a day due to browser failures. Did defreg, clean-up, freed up 1/2 the space on the hard drive, increased vrtual memory size and still get slow service, freezing, etc…. Sad when you pay good money for a high speed server and get grappy service and manipulation from browsers ….