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65nm Jasper chipset for Xbox 360: end of RROD

By: Daniel Chubb | May 8, 2008 | 22 Comments


If you combine the stories you hear about the Xbox 360 RROD and also my own personal experience of the so called “red ring of death”, the Xbox 360 was for me so loud you had to turn up your television sound to hear it and it would even heat up the room. We have heard for a long time that the better 65nm chips were coming out, it has been very confusing for many console owners, some even thought the new Elite Xbox 360’s had this better chip, but then after hearing Elites getting the RROD…that cannot be the case.

Today we are hearing that this August should see the release of the new 65nm Jasper chipset for Xbox 360 and if that’s the case, we could see the end of RROD once and for all. Most people will agree the 360’s drive noise, excessive heat and impression of eating games is all to real.

This is what we know so far:
Its being reported that Taiwanese companies are taking contracts for the new 65nm chips; these new chips should pump out less heat, use less wattage and be out by August 2008. The fun does not stop there, we are also hearing that Fall 2009 could see the rumored Valhalla chipset and that version is meant to combine the GPU and CPU into a new super-efficient chip.

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  • Harman

    Just to let you know, the 360 has gone through 3 motherboards so far:

    The Xenon – launch until mid 2007 – this was the launch model motherboard. It had a 90nm processor and graphics chip. It was way too hot and sucked. This is the reason the 360 has become notorious for the RROD.

    The Zephyr – March 2007 to August 2007 – this first appeared in the Elite, and then transitioned into the other models in July. It added an HDMI port, changed the heatsink on the GPU to a better one, and added another heatsink. It’s way better than the Xenon, because it runs way cooler. I’ve had this model of the 360 since August, and I’ve had no problems.

    The Falcon – August 2007 to now – this changed the processor to 65nm, but the graphics chip is still 90nm. It runs a little cooler than the Zephyr.

    The Jasper – August 2008 to unknown – is in development and will end the RROD. It will have a 65nm graphics chip in addition to a 65nm processor.

    Basically, from the Zephyr and onwards, the 360 isn’t going to fail that easily, and is almost as reliable as Wii and PS3. With the Jasper, it will be just as reliable as the others. Don’t believe those people who talk about the 33% failure rate of the 360 because that only applies to the Xenon 360s (in other words, if you bought one before July last year).

  • jaime

    hey harman …
    so the xbox 360 my cousin bought and die early in 2008, was it …
    hheemmmm …
    whats your answer?

  • Jai

    Your not helping Jaime

  • Harman

    @jaime,

    I said that from Zephyr and onwards, there are less chances of RROD; I never said there is no chance. The Falcons are good, and the Jasper (which is what the new Xbox’s have) is likely just as reliable as PS3.

  • Axileas

    The Box from the xenon and after was more realiable but only by a bit.My Falcon one RRODed to me after 10 months.I managed to fix it with the towel trick….and as of now i have the case completely dissasebled so it wont RROD to me again.Unti i exchange it with a new Jasper one…

  • Joe

    Jamie,
    Isnt it possible that the shop was just selling old srtock and you bought an old motherbord and yeah nice article he definitely said less cahnce

  • C-Dawg

    Well i just came across this article and read Harman’s original comment…
    that seemed to have been the general school of thought, but for X-Mas last year i purchased an elite that was manufactured in November with the newest chipset, the Falcon chipset… and the other day, the 17th of November, it got the RROD right out of the blue as soon as i turned it on. I had no problems with it whatsoever prior to that, and i was always careful with it, dusting it at least once a month and keeping it in well vented areas away from sources of heat. And even with the new Jasper i don’t think it’ll be entirely RROD proof, because there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to the RROD’s occurrence (my friend still has his 360 originally purchased in April ’06 and no RROD yet, and he plays a helluvalot more on it than i ever did on mine.

  • Harman

    @C-Dawg,

    Yeah, the RROD tends to be unpredictable. You never know when it’ll hit you. But the main reason it happens in the first place is because of the excessive heat. It’s not so much the chips being too hot themselves, but that Microsoft didn’t put in proper cooling. In that much heat, there is so much pressure on the processors that the pins that connect the CPU and GPU to the motherboard can actually break. When they break, your 360 get the RROD. A lot of the times though, when people’s 360s freeze, they reset it and it gives them the RROD. But when they wait a while, the processors cool down and the pins actually reconnect with the motherboard. So when you turn it back on after a while, it works again! That’s why the Towel Trick worked for the above user, Axileas. The 360 was purposely overheated so the pins resoldier themselves.

  • giovanni

    i don’t own a 360 but would like to do. but having some doubt! i hear alot about RROD in the u.s the 360 arcade cost $200 but in my country it cost $375 and that’s one month salery and it would suck if i got RROD. P.S I LIVE IN SURINAME

  • Jasper

    My first one died within two weeks. My second one lasted almost a year which I believe was a falcon chipset. I just bought my third xbox 360 around september 2008 and hopefully it be my final til the next one comes out. Never had a problem with the ps3 or the Wii or with the old xbox (…wait, I changed the dvd drive on that one and it works fine ever since except in the cut scenes in some games) and I got em since they came out. Xbox 360 is cool my prefered gaming console the best graphics I’ve ever seen…shiny, and tons of games to choose from but it’s just too unreliable for me and the warranty takes up forever though I haven’t tried sending it. If this one breaks sure I’d probably buy another one then they’d be making lots money (it’s too much for gaming budget).

  • Harman

    @Jasper

    Really? You bought a new one instead of just sending it in? I’ve heard it can take a while sometimes, but usually you’ll get it back within 3 weeks.

  • chosenone

    @jasper and Harman

    Microsoft is now actually fixing (or giving a new 360) the rrod. and like Harman sated it is so much cheaper if you send it in to Microsoft instead of buying a brand new one. or just buying those stupid pointless replacement plans the retail stores offer. Since you will never need them *rolls eyes*

  • JoeAnderson

    My X box360 arcade that I bought in Jan 2009 was surely a Jasper. Compared to the previous falcon it runs cooler and functions pretty well. However, I got fucked this month by it. Jasper had turned her back on me. It didn’t RROD but gave a irregular sound and the screen showed up the strange numbers and letters. And After I plugged it off and turned it back on therre is no response. It Lasted for more than a month so rejoice for the creation that Microsoft made. I should have gotten the PS3 only. Why did everyone hail 360′s dick? I got decieved and had my money fucked out from my ______. Everyone listen! The online for360 was good and 360 gave me a good feeling but this joy wont last for long. If you dont care about spending your money it’s ok but you see, I spent about $1200 for the cunt box 360. You claim PS3 is expensive? Give me fucking break! I bought Resident evil 5 for both of them but I prefer PS3 graphic cuz it’s just refine while Xbox360′s graphic is clear and good but the particles of the pixel is not meticulous enough. Well but overall X box is still good but only the hardware problems I do not like.

  • JoeAnderson

    Look, I got a Arcade that had flash memory in-built and was a Jasper and it malfunctioned within a month and a week. I tell you Jasper is not the savior. Better stop expecting good from Microsoft. How come they cannot fix the problem? MS is a billion dollor corporation,actually they can solve the problem within a matter of month ,however, they want customers to drain money. MS knows that the customers will be in a permanent bondage if they line up a lot of fun games and happy happy X box live. Their net-income basically comes from Membership card and from the hardware itself. They want to take advantage through making customers buy their hardware. Game disks themselves dont make that much of a income because some percent of the share will go to the company that produced it. Guess most of the public doesn’t know but the truth is that Microsoft’s head branch does the inspection check for Windows reliability. They are good at detecting mulfunctions and particular prblem within the condensers storage. You civilians better be wiser and realize the scheme of Giant corporations. But I still think X box 360 has good graphics and games. But thats how you get raped up.

  • Harman

    Yeah, because we all know that just because it happened to you, it’s gonna happen to every 360. /sarcasm
    A 360 that dies but didn’t get the ring of death? That’s a one in a thousand chance. Just about every 360 out there that has failed got the RROD. The odds of getting anything else are really, really low. Everyone I know with a Xenon or Zephyr 360 has had it RROD in about one year (1 made it 2 years). The 2 people I know with a Falcon have not it fail on them yet. And if they do fail, it’ll be RROD. The Jasper pretty much eliminates the RROD because it runs so cool compared to before. So while it won’t RROD, it still may get other weird errors, and the chances of getting those are the same on PS3 and Wii. RROD was the worst thing ever, and screw over many people. Microsoft knew that the problem existed before launching the 360, but thought that they could fix the problem in a few months. Turns out, it took a few years instead, so meanwhile, they tried to brush off the problem. Anyway, what I’m saying basically is that you are unlucky for buying that 360. I’m sure any other one would not fail on you. Send in your 360, it’s still under warrenty, and it’ll be back in a few weeks, a month at the most.

  • Mairaj

    I want to buy Xbox 360 Jasper – but how can I recognize that it’s Jasper not Falcon
    please help me out

  • Keoni

    My Xenon unit, purchased in December of 2005, just got the RROD error. Unfortunately it is 4 months out of the new warranty. I guess in lasting over 3 years, I was one of the lucky ones. Anyway, a new Elite is on the way and I am hoping for the best. Good luck all.

  • tony palmer

    I bought sony 60GB PS3 loved it cod4 great it stopped playing any disc,s sony did send me a repaired one as they did not make that model new anymore. I got rid and bought a new 60GB xbox360 jasper model playing cod4 again looks great in HD and the added rumble so much better, the xbox is a games machine at the end of the day the ps3 is a glorified expensive dusty box.

  • CJ

    This is a pretty outdated thread. I got the jasper. And it works great. Now what worries me is the noise. but thats an xbox for you right? anyways other than that Its great!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Sadler/539953082 Amy Sadler

    the jaspers power output will be 12.1a. check the label at the back. If its not 12.2a its not a jasper!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Sadler/539953082 Amy Sadler

    your wrong buddy, i have a jasper on every day all day and never ever even gets warm! never mind rrod.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Sadler/539953082 Amy Sadler

    your wrong buddy, i have a jasper on all day every day and it doesnt even get warm never mind rrod. Your were sold a falcon in jaspers clothing lol