Exclusive Sony PS3 Games Looking Better Than Xbox 360

wow . . . you’re a moron.

PS3 console design is definitely more well planned than Xbox 360. My company supplies parts to both company for their console. The path of planning that Sony Takes is much more considerate for a system to last 10 years or so. I waited to buy SONY PS3, because of the price Tag. But before that, I bought a Xbox 360 and within 3 days it went RRoD on me. I returned the unit. I always felt that the stratgey for Xbox Qualifications is far less matured than that of PS3. But, then again, SONY have been in the console making business far longer than Microsoft.
Viva SONY…Bravo

Madden, PES2008, Orange Box and PS3 crashing Assassins Creed FTW. I don’t know what your smoking.

I total agree with you I own all three systems this gen (psnid: Highlen xboxlive: Highlen please do not send any invites) i would show my wii friend code but no point.

Any who if 360 ultimate is true it further proves MS just rushed the 360 if the RROD was not enough to prove they did.

But the move want do them any good specially with the built in hd dvd its no way its going to be used for games if it was that would upset me and the rest of the 17 million xbox gamers out there.

With all that said this should be the year for ps3 where can you get gta 4 along side mgs4, ff 13, dmc4, killzone 2, PS home, GT 5, little big planet and free online play, just to name a few.

ps3 is the way to go if you have not got a system yet.

Devise is a huge fanboy

Oh god… can someone change the station!? Blah blah blah blah console war bullshite!

MS just showing they rushed there system
funny they said a few years back all that stuff in the ps3 was pointless now here they go adding similar stuff.

any who ps3 is the way to go this year

why you ask becuase its the only system where you can get these games also huge multiplate GTA4, DMC4

killzone 2
MSG4
FF 13
GT5
HOME
little big planet

Fanboy or not. The Xbox 360 has had the better of multi-platform releases during 2007. Even in the last quarter of 2007 there was more better quality 360 releases. Fact.

PS3 is the best Blu-Ray player on the market. That is about all it can take from it’s 2007 performance.

I dont think you know much about what you are saying!

First off, what exclusive games are you talking about that run better, they barely have any exclusive games? you gotta give some examples!

Second, if the PS3 has only scratched the surface, that also means the xbox 360 has as well, considering the 360 has a slight edge in hardware power.

Third, how much more content do you want? Oblivion has so much content packed in to that regular DVD that I am still playing new content almost 160 hours and nearly two years later.

Any one with commen sense knows that the PS3 is better, in terms of features, price and soon to be games. the games for the 360 may slightly look better. this is because the developers are used to it. it’s been out for a couple of years now.

i gurrantee you that the PS3 will be the conole of 2008 and the futre

Funny how no games are mentioned. Actually “Most” people say the graphics are about the same. Either way both of their graphics are amazing in High Def.

If developers develop games for xbox360 using hd-dvd instead of dvd with the new system, how is the older xbox360 currently using dvd to play game now. They might have to buy the new xbox360 all over again. So here you go => The cost of the ps3 = 2*xbox360.

Microsoft has no imagination, it bought Bungie, a company that publish Mac games, because it saw Halo and knew they would be in trouble. Zune, just another rip-off, and weak too. Vista, biggest joke yet, but that one depends on which version you buy. Now they want to make a better console, should have done that from the start. I buy my hardware with it purpose in mind, my audio and video equipment is from company that research the field. Microsoft just wants the buck. When games require 40gigs (which at some point they will) at lease a blu ray can handle it, and I won’t have to load it to my hard drive. If the 360 had been vendor friendly I would have got it, but its not. My PS3 saw and can use my Apple wireless keyboard, would microsoft allowed that? I’m not a fan boy, I just like to spend my money once. Microsoft doesn’t do that for me.

So, I’m a print journalist in the UK. I review for all formats, and have every machine. Your post is either aimed at sparking debate, or seriously flawed in its outcome.

Sure, Uncharted is excellent, as are a few other PS3 games. But framerate, graphics and sound? Come on. If you call yourself a serious journalist, don’t just post sensational claims when they’re just your opinion. This isn’t news, or blogging. It’s a hit bringer. Why did I visit? Because of the title, and my opinion that opinion shouldn’t be stiffled.

Yours, however, isn’t wrong. It’s just misinformed.

The article speaks of EXCLUSIVE games comparison. This does not include multiplatform games (madden, COD4, Orange Box, Assassins Creed).

Exclusives PS3 (with very nice graphics)
Uncharted
Ratchet and Clank
UT3
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword

Compared to

Exclusives 360
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Bioshock

The article is about comparisons of Exclusive titles not multiplatform.

“First off, what exclusive games are you talking about that run better, they barely have any exclusive games? you gotta give some examples!”

Uncharted…end of story. The game is the graphics king. Facial animations there and in Heavenly Sword – another exclusive beat the so called human looking game – Mass Effect. Mass Effect – dumbest AI ever. Lair was a bad game because most people couldn’t adapt to the controls. That’s fair. But graphically it is a powerhouse.

Ratchet and Clank. This is the game that does what Microsoft claimed was back with the Xbox1 showing at CES. Toy Story Graphics.

UT3 is running like butter as well!

I have a 360 (I have had 4 actually thanks – RROD) and I have a 60Gb PS3 with a larger HDD. No contest. Even running Vista Ultimate, the PS3 is my media hub, not my HALO edition 360.

Nothing will change the fact that the 360 has a far superior GPU vs. the old PC GPU in the PS3. It is a fact that the 360 handles more polygons nd the RAM in the machine is easier for developers to use. If anything it will probably be a wash this generation. By the time developers get a grip on the PS3 there will certainly be rumblings about the next gen Xbox.

I couldn’t agree with you more amigo.

Xbox 360 already reached it’s max potential w/ Gears of War. Halo 3…omg had the worst graphics in the world – I mean MGS 3: Snake Eater has better graphics than it! Now PS3′s Killzone 2 looks better and it’s in Alpha stage, Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better and it’s in Beta stage, Final Fantasy XIII looks the best and it’s in like PRE PRE ALPHA STAGE! It’s over for the xbox 360, ps3 has a pretty big future. True developers can’t wait to see what they can create with ps3′s true potential. They’ll soon get tired of seeing their games scratched up and freeze when a stupid plastic console gets RROD.

It’s funny how all the PS3 fanbois say the PS3 isn’t scratching the surface but yet most games can’t even run at 60fps like the 360… if there is all this left over power, then that wouldn’t be the case.

Truth is that developers are pushing the Cell has hard as that can right now. They may be able to optimize there code here and there, but don’t expect anything earth shattering.

There is no visual advantage to the PS3 and there never will be.

Also, the 360 dominated in games in 2007 and 2008 looks just as good.

When will fanboys learn no one cares what they think, if your happy with your system then your the winner. Seriously just because you narrow minded fanboys say that the ps3 is better than the 360 or vice versa, do you actually think the owner is going to chuck it out the widnow, no so shut up.

Ok guys, I have been in the video game industry for over 20 years, it is quite simple. I am not a fan boy of any system, so take that out of your head. Microsoft can release an Xbox360 but it will not be for games b/c millions of other 360 owners do not have and HD-DVD drive. It will not make sense for ANY publisher to make games for the HD-DVD360, because of the limited user base and unhappy non HD-DVD 360 owners.

SIMPLE RULE —> Whenever buying electronics… purchase something for the future, not the present, if not, you will end up with a bunch of add-ons, which, historically speaking has never worked out in the video game market.

BOTTOM LINE—> SONY thinks of the future, not the present and it is beginning to pay off…. as it almost ALWAYS does.

what games are you talking about? I agree with you that the PS3 has underperformed until now.

UT3 isn’t an exclusive.

Couldn’t agree more, the man said EXCLUSIVES not multiplatform games for all you people talking about assasin’s creed, orange box and all that jibberish. I own both systems and uncharted pretty much blew me away graphically, more so than when i played gears of war for the first time. My xbox360 is fun but i have more than enough fps games coming out of it, and as an all in one media my ps3 is king which gets all the love. I don’t understand why people all bitch about which console is better but all are fun in their own way, you pretty much are a 15 yr old with nothing else to do besides bash other people’s choices if you have to defend a system that much. I own all 3 and my wii colelcts dust except for the occasional mario galaxy, but the ps3 gets the most bang for my $$ in terms of what it can do.

up until about a week ago i thot the ps3 was a challenge for the xbox 360, and that sony’s eperience and history of the market had produced a fantastic console, even though i didnt like to admit it. However my m8 bought the 40 gig ps3 and not only was the hardware quality poor(wobbly ps3 logo and the cheap feel in general, lack of memory card reader and reduced no. of usb ports), but the software is no where near as powerful as the 360 dashboard system, its enlarged version of the psp, and the internet was rediculous to connect as u wer bombarded by unnesescary questions. It was so poor that i convinced him to return it and purchase a top spec Xbox 360 elite for less cost and at the highest spec, it is a fantastic media extender and gaming system.I really dont think sony did anything but develop blu-ray over te last few years, and if the ces announcement next week is an ultimate xbox 360 then it will thankfully be the final nail in the coffin for the overpriced, over hyped system that is the ps3, Sony ur outa the game, u had ur chance, now that Microsoft do the job right.

I don’t think there can be any doubt at all that the PS3 is a more capable platform, at least not from anyone that has seen Uncharted or Ratchet & Clank which look better than anything released on the 360. There are games which run better on the 360 but that has nothing to do with the PS3 not being as powerful, its because the coding was done lazily. The best looking 360 game (gears of war) was released over a year ago so it looks like the 360 is pretty much on its limit while developers are only still learning how to use the PS3 yet are already graphically beating its rival.

I have all 3 systems, and lately I haven’t touched the Wii. My 360 is a great system, but I had to send it in for repairs, yes I got the RROD in November. Because of that I ended up buying Call of Duty 4 on my PS3 and enjoyed it so much, I ended buying a lot more games for my PS3. My fear is that my Xbox will still fail, therefore I am beginning to invest in the PS3 about 80% more. Unreal Tournament, Uncharted, COD4, and Assisins Creed were all purchased for my PS3, and I am very happy with all the games, (in my opinion) the PS3 is really gaining momentum, and this is not good for Nintendo or Xbox. I would like all 3 systems to stick around though, it is good for the consumer.

I am so pissed that MS for pulling crap like this, you know how many people own more than 1 Xbox 360 console? Do they except people to go out and buy an upgrade version? I just bought the elite and now I feel like I got a 2nd had Xbox 360. It really shows how much Microsoft cares about their customers. Why couldn’t they have this SKU? Sony appears to have the right idea from the start.

“However my m8 bought the 40 gig ps3 and not only was the hardware quality poor(wobbly ps3 logo and the cheap feel in general, ”
I have no idea what you are talking about. My ps3 logo is fine. The casing is sleek IMO.

“lack of memory card reader and reduced no. of usb ports),”
Well you bought the 40 gig. The 360 has no memory card readers period and only 3 USB ports. The 80gig has memory ports and 4 USB slots.

“but the software is no where near as powerful as the 360 dashboard system, its enlarged version of the psp, and the internet was rediculous to connect as u wer bombarded by unnesescary questions.”
When Home comes out, the PSN will be competitive with XBOX Live without having to pay $50 a year ($150 after 3 years to play games like CoD4 that are otherwise free on the PC and PS3). Unnecessary questions? The only “questions” that came up when I first got my PS3 were the questions asked when registering for the PSN and the OPTIONAL survey. No idea what you are talking about.

“It was so poor that i convinced him to return it and purchase a top spec Xbox 360 elite for less cost and at the highest spec, it is a fantastic media extender and gaming system.”
Less cost? XBOX 360 elite is $50 more expensive than the 40gig. Add another $100 if you want their wireless adapter. Hard drives are cheap for the PS3 and are easy to upgrade.

“I really dont think sony did anything but develop blu-ray over te last few years, and if the ces announcement next week is an ultimate xbox 360 then it will thankfully be the final nail in the coffin for the overpriced, over hyped system that is the ps3, Sony ur outa the game, u had ur chance, now that Microsoft do the job right.”

Its actually a “screw you” to the people who bought the XBOX 360 elite along with spending MORE money for the HD-DVD player thinking it was the best XBOX system. This is Microsoft’s way of imitating Sony with the “integrating a HD disc format” game. The difference is, MS will not be taking advantage of the HD-DVD technology for their games, because that would screw 90% of the 360 users. And people complain about Sony confusing people with their many SKU’s.

Once MS has their RROD problem completely fixed (the rate they are going, it may take a bit. It still seems happen on the elite), I may get a 360 for some of the game titles. Until then, I am sticking with the PS3.

Framerate…wow okay thats y madden looked so great runing at half speed on the PS3- 30 fps on PS3 and 60 fps. I am not going to even finish reading this article because it sounds bias and there are falty facts in its introduciton. Re-word you thesis and i might come back to actually read this.

Guys, guys, guys…cool it will ya. I love my xbox 360 i would love to have a PS3 and i would love to have a wii.

Xbox 360 was built for gaming
Ps3 was built to be a media centre
wii was built for fun

simple…

PS3 dont have better exclusive…. UT3 is coming out for 360 soon. MGS4 is coming to the 360 a year after Sony MSG comes out.

josh. have 2 say u are def 360 fanboy.

if ur m8 bought the best ps3 in the first place the u wouldn’t have much in the post would you.

i have had 7 360’s and the only thing better on the 360 is the community on live. its fair to say what graphics and what exclusives but 360s are on around 8th 9th gen games ps3 on around 2nd 3rd and u say the gamesare matching that of the 360 already so no one botherd on your oppinion by the sound of it you didn’t like first impression and sed get rid so if u still into ur games in the following year and your sat there with your shiney new ps3 remember the forum an see how wrong you really were. UNLUCKY FANBOY!!!

I agree that Uncharted is the King!! Exactly what I bought the PS3 for. I have been impressed with releases by Microsoft such as PGR4 which has nice graphics, but there are some serious fun issues from lacking in the game. Unchartered really got me by the scruff of the neck and I enjoyed the game alot, aswell as drooling at the supreme graphics…brought me back to the best PS2 days and the real reasons I play games. I’m getting a little sick of MS’s emphasis on online gameplay…it can get a little too serious. I was number one in the world for a couple of weeks on a track on PGR3 – how long did it take me? About 3 hours of unabashed boring repetition. I was addicted!! Not my idea of fun anymore I’m afraid. ICO, God of War, MGS1 + 2, Final Fantasy VII (PSone), Gran Turismo, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank … these are just some of the games which I have fond memories of. Xbox?? Great, but all I remember from it is getting really frustrated trying to get a better time or beat some irritating tw@% online.
Anyhow – Sony did their groundwork and with the inclusion of a Blu Ray player I cannot understand anyone who would turn their nose up at it…apart from the fact that there are not enough games for it yet…guess I’ll have to play the awesome Uncharted again – shame (not).

The PS3 logo is well designed to rotate 45degrees so will be staight when upright or flat.

Exclusive games will only run on exclusive systems. Are you people on crack? There’s not a multiplatform game out there that looks/plays better on the PS3. This article is propaganda. Be real. Just because you wish it were true doesn’t mean that it is. PS3 fanboys keep hoping. Look at how the 360 is beating the PS3 with DVD-9…can you imagine how much worse the beating would be with HDDVD?

I disagree with your comment about the 360 lacking because Microsoft may now be adding an HD DVD drive. If Microsoft rammed HD DVD down our throats like Sony did with Blu Ray, then both consoles would be sitting on the shelf, and I would be playing a Wii with your grandmother.

BDev
This is only true of games ported ‘too’ the PS3
Games ported ‘from’ the PS3 are superior to the xbox there just isnt many yet,
all multiplatform games are designed to be as close as possible performance wise across the systems.

Very biased article. This review was already one sided from the beginning so this shouldn’t really be a review site at all. Ok so ps3 finally discovered that it can play games but if blu ray fails ps3 overall fails. This is not a gaming console but a blue ray player that likes to compete as a console.

Are you kerazy?
Almost every dual format 360 title has performed/looked better than it’s PS3 counterpart and the ones that actually run better have had a cutback somewhere else important, whether that is the screen resolution or shader effect.

The question is:

WHY WOULD MICROSOFT UPGRADE THE SYSTEM IF IT IS ALREADY A SUPERIOR SYSTEM!!!

the reality is that if xbox 360 is a superior piece of hardware then Microsoft would not consider any upgrade at this early stage of the race, that is very clear, 2 years into the race and Microsoft already aknowledge that it will be out of the race if they don’t make xbox 360 closer to what PS3 is.

I have both systems and like both, but there is no doubt that PS3 is a superior hardware system.

To the point of xbox 360 releasing better games in 2007 I will like to add that releasing xbox 360 a year earlier than PS3 has a lot to do with that, it just take time (about a year) to develop a good game on any platform.

On the xbox 360 ultimate, if true, it will be a nice upgrade that will get the 360 closer to PS3 but still not there.

I really hope the fan noise is addressed on the 360 ultimate and wireless internet connection is added, if so I am buying.

I think if ultimate is release it just reafirms that PS3 is a better.

Owner of both systems. Doe’s anyone notice that most games on the PS3 runs slower?

He is talking about over hyped games that might look as good as the movie that they show. There isnt any games that look that any better right now, and he knows it.
Xbox got all of the multi-plat games first in 07. Why? Because there are more people who own the console.
Fan boy shit will never end

Have you ever taken an English class?

I own both systems and with respect to graphics ports from the 360 to the PS3 are horrible (i.e. Rainbow Six Vegas).

PS3 IP (Drakes Fortune) are stunning and showcase the power of the PS3.

I am currently on my 7th 360 (I have the replacement plan from Best Buy) and I feel any consumer electronic device that has such a high failure rate can never be called a success.

I enjoy certain games on the 360 and others on the PS3 they both have their fanbases.

PS3 graphics are alright but the library of games is a joke. For now the 360 is way more fun.

I bet over half the people here bitching about graphics on either system don’t even have a hdtv….

Exclusives on the ps3 have cleraly better graphics than 360 exclusives. An HD-DVD games on the 360? not likely unless they plan on pissing off everyone who bought the 360 already.
It’s the games that count and I think the ps3 is really picking up momentum. People say the ps3 had a rubbish year for software, but what did the 360 have after a year? GOW that was it, I’ve got these exclusives Uncharted, HS, MS, Ratchet and Clank: TOD, Warhawk, UT3(timed) pretty good for one year. The 360 had a good year but the only games for me worth playing are Mass Effect and Bioshock. Halo 3(yeah way to go Microsoft ur stupid ad campiagn for a game about shooting aliens with a rubbish plot and bland characters has pushed the idea that video games can be considered art back along way, hopefully MGS4 and the next project from team ICO/SOTC will set things right), Forza 2 and PGR4 where bland and boring. And have u seen the 360 2008 release schedule? they are in serious trouble, especially compared to ps3′s: MGS4, FF13, Little Big Planet, Home, Haze, Killzone 2, White Knight Story, The Agency, Wipeout HD and even RFOM 2 and MS 2 are rumoured to be out before the end of the year. The 360 has alienated to many people with focus on online play for games that should also have good single player. Sony got it right by developing great single player games and online only games for people who want to play online like Warhawk(do u need any other online game?) and the awesome looking the Agency out this year.

People don’t seem to understand that the programming environment between the PC and the 360 are very similar. Admittedly, the PS3 doesn’t use Microsoft packages for it’s development process, for obvious reasons. So if you’ve been using technologies such as the DirectX API, it’s going to be a completely different process. But as developers get more experience with the platform, the current issues will continue to improve and we’ll start to see that untapped potential.

I own both systems and have owned most if not all of Microsoft XBox 360′s and PS3′s exclusive games that have sprung out so far. I can not tell what system has the better graphics or look better cause they are all different games and the art is unique on each game forboth systems. I can say Uncharted is a beautiful game, but so is Halo 3 // I can say Ratchet and Clank is crazy nice looking, but so does Bioshock. In reality, I think that it all depends on the time spent by the publishers on a particular game to make it look really good. Unfortunately, a few are rushed for sales and are not as polished as they should. My conclusion, none of the games from either system look a lot better than the other.

In the first year of launch the 360 had
Project Gotham Racing 3
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
COD2
Dead Rising
Oblivion
Lost Planet
DOA4
Rainbow 6 Vegas
GRAW

which in my eyes is a considerably better haul of titles than the PS3 has seen in it’s first year. Sure it has had good titles, but the main bulk of the PS3′s first year has been technically inferior multiformat games.

@LogicPTK

There’s 90 degrees between upright and flat, get your facts right.

I’m off to trade my 360 in for a PS3 now because my logo does not rotate… hey wait a minate if i rotate my console 360 degrees it’s straight again and it even says 360 on the case!

Wow think i’ll keep my 360, it’s 270 degrees better than your stupid PS3.

Why are people upset about Microsoft making a new Xbox 360 that will play the same games as the old xbox 360 at the same speed and the same quality as new ones? There isn’t any reason to by a new Xbox unless you want HDMI which you don’t need. You weren’t ripped off or cheated you got more than two years worth of gaming in before those who are buy one today. How much would people pay to have the next generation of Xbox planned for 2012, today? More than the cost of a new Xbox 360 I’m sure.

On the whole, Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD vs DVD thing. None of it matters.
Blu-Ray is slower than HD-DVD which is slower than DVD which is slower than the Hard Drive which is slower than solid state memory. Sure you may someday need more than one DVD but if they work with the Hard drive as an option then neither size or speed is an issue. Running a game entirely off of an optical drive doesn’t make much sense to me.

@John

Quit drinking the XBox360 cool-aide they are serving up on the XBox forums. MGS4 isn’t coming to XBox360.

I own both systems, and either you work for Sony, you never actually owned both systems and are just saying that, or you’re a complete moron and possibly partially blind.

Give an example of an exclusive that’s better looking than Gears of War or Bioshock. Where do these people come from? I’m looking forward to future PS3 titles that will better tap the power of the machine, but anyone that says the PS3 is currently exceeding the xbox on virtually ANY level is mildly or full blown retarded.

Like many people, I am fanatical about researching a product before I committ to buying it. I work as an audio engineer in the music industry and have always been interested in the latest gadgetry and technology, So when I made my mind up that I was going to buy a next gen console about 6 months ago I was not biased to one console versus the other.
First off, the Wii was out for me. I had messed around with my friend’s for a few hours and where as it was fun, the games do appeal to a younger audience and the novelty of the motion sensing controller does eventually wear off.
That leaves us with the PS3 and the Xbox 360. I had played both consoles before but had not throurghly researched the prices of both to that point. I’ve always followed one rule of buying electronics: if i decide to buy something, make sure its top of the line otherwise you will end up right back where you started in a few months or buying add ons etc. So that narrowed it down to Xbox 360 Elite and the Playstation 3 80 gb. On paper it would seem the 360 has the price advantage without a doubt. it has 120 gb hardrive and comes with 2 games for $449 to PS3′s 80 gb and one game it its bundle for $499. I found these prices to be extemely misleading upon further examination so i’ll break it down.

XBox 360 Elite $449 – added expense of HD DVD player 179.99. added expense of WiFi 99.99. This completely negates the value of the 2 games being even in the bundle. So I was looking at $730 before tax.

Playstation 3 80 gb $499 – has every componant already in its bundle that the xbox did not. You also want to consider the issue of the current format war between Blu-Ray and HD DVD. Blu-Ray is currently outselling and has more titles thatn HD DVD by a 3:1 ratio. Did I really want to purchase a slowly regressing format.
Anyways thats my shpiel. Hope it helped some people who haven’t bought next a next gen console but it really is simple when you look at closely. PS3 has more bang for its buck and some really amazing games are starting to roll out. Also Bioshock is not an exclusive either. It was ported from PC.

I like how everyone claims that PS3 has better graphics than anything the 360 has. I don’t think you can beat Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Plus, CoD4 runs at 60 FPS. PS3 can’t match that. It’s also clear that this article was written by a fanboy with nothing better to do, in response to the fact that Xbox is going to release something even better. There is a reason Ps3 is losing the console wars, even to the Wii.

I currently own both systems, only recently getting the PS3 and i think ur judgement is absolutely correct i much prefer the Playstation and ive only owned it for a small length of time but it simply is better then the 360, i own the core version and its not good enough, Microsoft made a mistake when releaseing the Xbox 360 with no Wi-Fi or HD-DVD drive so it gives Sony a big enough technical advance to be able to regain the lead on the Console War only if Wii can be brought down.

I picked the console that has and will have the best games. Call me crazy but, isn’t that what a GAMES console is for?

Call of Duty 4 is identical on the PS3 and XBOX. Don’t pull crap out of your ass.

i agree totally, and those of you calling this guy a moron are a moron yourself. some guy up there was mentioning the orange box, madden, and pes. all of those ARE NOT EXCLUSIVES!!!!! they are made around the 360, and sh*ttly ported to the ps3 with little optimization so it can run and sell. look at the exclusives, i.e. unreal tournament 3, etc, and they defiantly take the cake. the microsoft xtrabucks 3sh*tty is a pure example of a moneymaker if i ever did see one. sony cares more because they need too with theirs costs and being behind. i returned my ps3 for scratches, citing a non-existant display error, nd it was returned in 3-4 days. an xbox takes almost a month, and the old ones are dieing left and right these days. and halo 3 was ugly, boring, and lackluster. how could anyone believe microsoft put eorrot into that? it was going to sell no matter what, because those buying 360′s are ignorant. the ps3 is 50 bucks shy of a 360, and comes with wifi, bluray, and memory card readers. wtf? really?

Every single part that is rumored to be upgraded in the xbox 360 Ultimate is already offered in the PS3 80GB, isn’t it?

but what if the rumors are not true, the fanboys will be very dissappointed.

I own all systems and based on the xbox 360 record of hardware failures the BB PRP program is a must for 360, I had to get it, but didn’t not get it for WII or PS3. Why did I get it for XBox 360?
I based my decision on the experience of friends that had the 360 since release date, I got mine 6 mo. ago.

Microsoft should offer extended warranty.

On titles the best graphics I have seen in both systems are in Drakes Fortune’s PS3 exclusive.

On processing power I think the number of characters moving smoothly at the same time on Ratchet PS3 is impressive.

But good games are good games on 360, PS3 or WII, it doesn’t matter what system if the games are good.

i owned both systems just bought ps3 recently i must honestly say the ps3 is much a better hardware then the xbox 360. the ps3 is so damn smooth running compared to xbox360.. no more noises when playing games or watching movies. gave away my xbox 360 to my brother. but i missed playing halo3 on the xbox.. im no fanboy but halo3 is an awesome game better then cod4. theres is no fun factor in cod4. all these people saying that halo3 is crap because i bet u 95% of them are ps3 fanboy. they just wish to get their hands on halo3.. got to give credit where is due, stuff this fanboys bullshit.. sony or ms is not giving u any $..

I own all three systems. Except for Resistance, Ratchet & Clank and a brief stint with Motorstorm, my PS3 doesn’t get a lot of game time because the games just aren’t that great. Played the demo of Uncharted. Good but not really next gen gameplay decent, but pales next to titles like Bioshock, Assassin’s Creed and Ratchet.

My 360 is played almost non-stop. I had a launch system and never had any RRoD problems. I bought an Elite and my teenager bought the Halo edition 360 (sold my launch system to a friend) and all the systems have had no problems despite a LOT of play-time. There are literally more fantastic games than I can find time to play, which is a really strange thing for me because that’s never happened before on any system including PC.

My gripes:

PS3:
- The controllers seem to lose sync with the console occasionally, at which point the game doesn’t pause like you’d expect, you just keep moving in the direction you were going until they re-sync. Very annoying near cliffs in games.
- Only one headset supported on each system. Very annoying when you want to play Warhawk online in split screen. 360 supports 4 headsets why can’t PS3?? At least it uses standard Bluetooth headsets which is a great feature
- Game selection still sucks. Little Big Planet will probably go a long way towards solving that problem but now they’re saying OCTOBER 2008??? RELEASE IT SOONER PLEASE, SONY!!!
- Runs as hot as the 360 (but a lot quieter fan)

360 Gripes:
- It’s loud
- It’s hot
- I can’t install my own 2.5″ hard drive like I could with my PS3. I’m shocked that Sony (who is normally very proprietary minded) allows this and Microsoft (who is supposed to be standards driven) does not. At the VERY least they should let me use an external USB storage device as if it were any other hard drive.

Wii
- Controller is not very precise. Motions have to be exaggerated and still sometimes mis-reads. Fine for simple motions like Wii Sports but when you play something like Tiger Woods, Madden, or Call of Duty you realize that it’s pretty inacurate.
- Graphics are HORRIBLE on my 56″ DLP. They should have standardized on 720p from day 1 and it just goes to show that Nintendo was more concerned with console profit than making a next-gen experience.
- Online experience is HORRIBLE. You have to punch in a 16 digit numeric “Friend Id” and then wait for them to also punch in yours before you can even send messages. WTF was Nintendo thinking?? Reminds me of a worse implementation of early Prodigy or AOL. No, it’s far worse than those. They need to throw the whole online experience out and redo it around the Mii, which is very interesting (but an offline feature). Make the Mii have a real-world age and a gamer tag like XBox Live and PSN (along with billing information, parental controls, etc) and then you’ll have something with a potential future.

The author of this article said, “In my opinion and also many other gamers would agree, the exclusive games coming to the Sony PS3 are looking better than any other Xbox 360 game in terms of graphics, framerate and sound.”

The issue is the way the games look. I have both systems myself. Currently, I have not noticed a difference in graphics at all. PS3 has boasted about how much better their machine will be, but there hasn’t been a difference. Infact, most experts have said that the 360 has been better on certain games, not even just equal…Madden 08′ for example. I will say, however, it is possible that future games for the PS3 will look better, but then again, anything’s possible for either machine. However, right now, there’s no basis for the author of this article to make that original statement. I do like the PS3′s features more, especially blue ray, but I like my 360 hd-dvd add on just as much. I only rather that it was included in my system like PS3′s. But, I like my 360′s games more, and XBOX Live.

Its true multi-plat games run identical, expect for the orange box Otherwise lesson to the wisdom of the past. Each platform will have must have games, wii=super smash brother, mario cart, mario, xbox 360 = halo, bioshock, gears of war, ps3 rachet and clank, dranks, and metal gear solid. The best thing to hope for is for games to keep goin multiplatform, multi=bigger $, which means more room for production costs = best game possible.

i got my Ps3 in late 2007, the 80 gig nd dont have a HD TV yet and i am very satisfied.
PS3 is avery good console especially if u want to multi task-
Play Games. Blu Ray. A good pc feature with linux (which i have). And a good, decent and improving not to mention free Play Station Network.

PS3 is very good in my opinion and it will do better than the other consoles in 2008, and those that say Xbox 360 has better hardware are bullshitting because if 360 had better hardware than you would not get problems like RROD

Why are people still arguing over whos console is better

i have an xbox 360 and it is fantastic

great online services
games

all round gr8 system

sick and tired of fans boys arguing over pointless things

“mines better then urs”
“blue ray holds more”

arguing over every single spec every single pixle ffs get a life

sony always lie and over hype there s*** thts sony
microsoft always f*** up some where down the line

will sony fanboys plz shut up for 1nce and stop trying to justify your losses

how could you sit there and blame the programmers and game designers how many of you can do it
what are you expecting some huge difference between the 2 consoles it aint gunna happen both consoles have stronger points about them when it boil down to the little bits face it both consoles are the same.

and xbox fanboys so what if there is a better version coming out its no different from anything electircal stuff goes out of date all the time ps3 will last a couple of years max

lol blue ray and hd-dvd are out dadted already
with holographic disks coming out c(apable of hold 2.5 terabytes at the min and i theroy will b more still working on them)

so please people stop crying about stuff no1 cares about really it is sad go out get a gf or something

PS3 exclusive games better than Xbox 360 exclusive games?!? Lets see, Xbox 360 has Halo 3, Gears of War, and Bio Shock, which were the 3 best games of 2007, PS3 didn’t have and exclusive titles that are barely worth mentioning. I think Xbox 360 crushed PS3 when it comes to better game titles in 2007.

I own a PS3 and an Xbox360, graphics wise PS3 kills the 360, and pretty much in every other way. I like playing both, but PS3 is much better, atm the 360 has better games, but with mgs4, gran turismo, devil may cry etc etc PS3 will be much better games wise. And GREG, CALL OF SUTY IS MUCH BETTER ON PS3, I HAVE IT ON BOTH, GRAPHICS WISE THERE IS A NOTICEABLE IMPROVEMENT ON PS3.

@ Salt. This I agree with. Although Bioshock and Gears you can get for the PC, each system has its share of good exclusives.

Hopefully EA follows the example of Activision and learn to port properly instead of bitching and whining about it.

This is pretty simple. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing. The “new” xbox 360 ultimate is coming out to help toshiba with the BR- HD-DVD war. Thats it. All games will and have to still be on dvd-9 disc or else all older xbox 360s will not be able to play the game. So all you PS3 fans, stop tripping about the new xbox. It will NO EFFECT on games.

To Sceptic— The disc and disk speed is playing a major part in gaming. The lowest model xbox produced did not come with a hard drive. This means that developers for the xbox must make sure that all games run 100% from the disc. This was the same problem that the PS2 had against the original xbox. Microsoft did not realize that they got it right the first time. The PS3 put thier games on blu-ray disc which gives they more storage and then downloads part of the game to the hard drive so that they are not limited to the slow speed of blu-ray. This is a smart move because it now gives them more storage than the XBOX’s disc and a faster transfer rate.

As far as graphics both systems have produced games with great graphics and i don’t think there is a clear winner yet when it comes to graphics. I do believe that sony will begin to pull away from the xbox in the near future. WHY do I say this??? Because programming for the XBOX is simuliar to programming for a PC. So any developer that has been programming for the pc can make the easy transition to programming for the 360. This has helped Microsoft produce spectacular games from day 1 but it also means that programs are able to tap 60% – 70% of the XBOX’s potential power from day 1. The PS3 on the other requires a completely different process for writting the code. This will cause the first generation or two of games to have very sloppy code and limit them. Developers have really been able to tap 20% -30% of the PS3′s power because they do not completely understand what is the best way to develop a game for the system. I think if last January a development teams designed the same game from scratch(not a port) for both systems the xbox would have probably looked a little better, but I think now that developers are gaining a better understanding of the PS3, the PS3 version would blow the 360 away.

Ok, MGS4 has as much chance of going to Xbox 360 as Halo 3 of going to PS3… I don’t even know why you guys try making up these rumors.

PS3 has superior hardware, and 360 currently has more games. If I had a choice, I’d go with the 360 for now, and than the PS3 after MGS4 and FFXIII comes out.

But, since I’m not rich, I’ll just wait and buy a PS3 when the games mentioned above arrive.

Wow. how do they let someone as idiotic as you comment on anything. You mention PS3 superiority in titles yet fail to mention any by name. XBOX clearly dominated last year with BioShock, Halo 3. you are a moron.

Hey chief “someone” you should get your facts straight Gears of War being arguably the best we have seen of grafics on the xbox has acording to epic been beaten out be unreal tournament 3. ALSO I would note that every one has been beat out by the Wii witch to me simply means that kids are still the major demographic for gaming machines kind of sucks but is very true. Anyway all you fanboys and girls should get back to playing your favorite machine and cut the SH%& and quit worrying about who’s Dic or tits are big then yours. opps freud was right after all

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Someone
“I like how everyone claims that PS3 has better graphics than anything the 360 has. I don’t think you can beat Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, and Call of Duty 4. Plus, CoD4 runs at 60 FPS. PS3 can’t match that.”

What drug are you on. Halo 3 is beat by pretty much every next gen game in terms of graphics. I can play gears and bioshock on my computer, dont need a 360. And ya the ps3 can match CoD4 on the 360 because there exactly the same. Idiot. Your so dumb. Think before you speak.

I have both systems and I must admint the ps3 is now on leval ground with the 360! The ps3 is far more future proof without a doubt!

The 360 does have the more powerful gpu, but the ps3 has the beeter cpu (cell) And one big thing over looked on the ps3 is the XDR Ram 3.2ghz speed compared to the gddr 3 ram in the 360.

PS3 network is free, the controler is alot better than the 360 controler, in the sense it doesnt cut out all the time and eat batts! Plus I like the fact you can save those film downloads from torrent sites i.e avi files and STORE them on the ps3, plus I am runnig a full operating system on a separate partition, trust me guys Yellow Dog Linux is a very good OS…. The list goes on and on! I love my 360 but I love my PS3 even more, Oh check this site out I tried this and it WORKS on the ps3

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/681760/Improve_PS3_Graphics_with_XMB_Setting.html?utm_source=g4tv&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=TheFeed

games will look as good on the ps3 as they do on the 360 when they are first developed on the ps3, this is why call of duty looked the same. The reason for this is because the 360 is a more powerful system, with twice the memory and double the polygon display capabilities

the 360 can take a ps3 port no problem, but the ps3 isn’t powerful enough to do it the other way around. that is why you see devs moving to ps3 development first, it’s the weaker system.

the shame is that this means that the 360 versions are not going to look as good as they can.

The ps3 doesnt have as good games as 360 wtf.

PS3 has now
RFOM, UT3 (timed), Heavenly sword, Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank FTOD, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Motorstorm, Warhawk

In the Future
MGS4, FF13, Home, Haze, Killzone 2 , The Agency, Resistance 2, Uncharted 2, Motorstorm 2, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo 5

360 has now
Gears(also for PC), Bioshock(also for PC), Halo 3(coming for PC), Forza ( i guess..)

In the future
Fable 2(also for PC), Splinter Cell..

Lol

Drake’s Fortune, Heavenly Sword, shitty Lair, and Motorstorm look better than Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Gears. So what. None of those titles sold more, had surperior gameplay, or were rated higher. However, when FFXIII, MGS, and even KZ2 arrive that will probably change.

Games like AC, Madden at 30 FPS, Orange Box, or any other multi-plat is irrelevant. The article deals with exclusives now and upcoming. PS3 games look better.

Currently there are no better games for the PS3, and so my girlfiends are much happier playing with our X-Box. However this is CLEARLY going to change in 2008 when better titles become available for PS3 . The better titles will be Sony’s secret to sucessful wooing of hardcore gamers

i feel stupid after reading the unbelievably torrent of fanboism on this site, so here is my two cents.

1 Microsoft will NEVER RELEASE AN XBOX 360 WITH AN HD DVD FOR GAMING, THE DRIVE WILL ONLY BE USED FOR MOVIE PLAYBACK

2. NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A DEVELOPER, NOT EVEN A PROGRAMMER

3. PS3 HAS 2 EXCLUSIVE GAMES THAT ARE GOOD, TWO!!!
AND HEAVENLY SWORDS AND LAIR ARE 7/10 RATED TITLES IF THAT MUCH

4. THE CELL CPU IS NOT A GOD SEND , GLORY OF GLORY’S PROCESSOR. IN FACT IT’S NOT EVEN THAT GREAT FOR GAMES, UNLESS GAMES TURN INTO SCIENTIFIC I FLOATING POINT SINGLE(32bit) AND DOUBLE (64bit) PRECISION APPLICATION CAPABLE OF OF LARGE DATA SET IN THE RANGES OF 10^-308 TO 10^308. Although that sounds really nice it’s in no way mean better graphics, or smooth game play. what it does mean is that it is perfect for HD decoding (or encoding if you are running Linux fedora 8 ) what really makes a graphics is the GPU, and sorry to burst your (PS3 has untaped potential) bubble, the RSX is in fact weaker then the Xenos (not by much, in fact i could say they are pretty much equal)

5. THE PS2 WAS A SUCCESS NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A HARDWARE BEHEMOTH, IN FACT IT WAS THE WEAKEST CONSOLE LAST GENERATION IN TERMS OF HARDWARE PERFORMANCE, AND VERY HARD AND EXPENSIVE TO DEVELOP FOR, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SO MANY VIDEO GAMES COMPANY’S WENT OUT OF BUSINESS (THEY ASSUMED THAT SENSE THE PS1 WAS SUCH A SUCCESS THAT THEY DIDN’T NEED TO MAKE MUTLY PLATFORM GAMES, THIS WAST THERE UNDOING)

6.THE XBOX WAS THE PS4 OF LAST GENERATION (YES PS4) IN TERMS OF GRAPHICS, AND BOY WAS IT SUCCESSFUL (2ND PLACE IN THE US & EUROPE, 3RD PLACE IN ASIA)

7.SENSE THE XBOX 360 HAS BEEN OUT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY GAMES THAT ECLIPSE RATCHET AND CLANK, UNCHARTED, AND HEAVENLY SWORDS. JUST TO NAME THE ONES I HAVE:
Dead Rising
Gears of War
Bioshock
Halo3
Mass effect

8.I’m sorry for all the caps but screaming is the only thing you people understand

9. STOP BITCHING ABOUT HOW XBOX LIVE IS $50 A YEAR, WHEN MOST OF YOU HAVE PAYED $500-$600 ON A CONSOLE WITH NO GAMES(PS3) EVEN AFTER A YEAR OF BEING RELEASED, ALL YOU HAVE ARE 2 TITLES (R&C, UNCHARTED) I PAYED $400 FOR MY XBOX 360 PREMIUM AND I HAVE THE TITLE STATED ABOVE AND A FEW OTHER THAT ARE MORE IN THE RANGE OF 8/10 RATED GAMES :
LOST PLANET
CRACKDOWN
MOTO GP 2007
PREY

10.BLU RAY IS A JOKE, JOKE, SO IS HD DVD. CONSIDERING THAT I CAN DOWNLOAD HD MOVIES FROM XBL, AND AS FOR 1080p (if your tv is smaller then 42″ then 720p is fine, infact a laught at people who boast that they have 38″ 1080p tv,)

11. HDMI, do any of you really know what HDMI is for? “shure we do it’s a unified Video/audio cable capable of displaying 1080p” that half right,in terms of picture and sound HDMI is the same as DVI and Component, but unlike those two cable they are incapable of copy protection, wich mean no bluray playback in 1080p.

12. sony axes backwards compatibility to cut cost only after a year of being in production (if any of you know anything about economics is that you don’t cut the price when an item is in demand, you only cut the cost when a product is not selling) IOW $400 PS3 core is the same price as the Xbox 360 elite.

13. Microsoft rushed there console as fast as sony rushed theres. so both company’s are at fault.

14. and before you say it “my Xbox 360 broke” so did your PS2 when it was the hot items in demand. My xbox 360 broke but instead of acting like a child whos toy just broke i called dof M$ within 10mins i spoke to someone. They confirmed the consoles S/N and P/N and sent me a RMA box, within 1 week of reseaving the RAM box i sent it of to there repair place in Texas, got it back the next week. that wast in march 2007, it is now 1/4/08 haven’t had a problem sense.o and i din’t pay a dime for any of these. If you don’t beiliev me call them up your self:
1-800-4MY-XBOX
or click on this:
http://service.xbox.com/servicehome.aspx
say what you will about M$ but they made a mistake and they fixed it fast.

13. and finally Bluray will benefit game play the same way MD disk have changed the music industry, same way the UMD has unified both gaming and movies on the go…. o crap THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
I am not a game developer but me and my friend are hobbiest in making games. and i can tell you right now 25-50GB disk space will not benefit game developers. I also program (not professionally)
and one of the most important things my professors told me was ” you can have all the RAM in the world, you can have a CPU clocked at 1Thz but none of that will mater if you act as if you do, to be a good programmer you have to pretend
like you have an 8086 Intel, and use as few resources as possible.” so in fact when you here “developers” saying that their is untaped potential, it’s just a bunch of hot air, whe are not talking about a computer with upgradablity option, we are talking about a game console. And with game consoles there is no untaped power, there is simply good developers that use the hardware correctly or you have bad developers how bitch and moan about not having enough of this, and that.

that was my 2 cents.

uncharted is probably one of the best looking games ive seen, technically the PS3 seems the better of the two but obviously its all about the games and 360 had a great 2007 holiday period but even sony has massive games MGS4, GT5, again both look absolutely amazing graphically, and then the promise of little big planet and killzone 2 and the backup of GOD OF WAR 3 AND HOPEFULLY NEW ICO OR SHADOW OF COLLOSUS

First all almost all of XBOX 360 “exclusives” are available on PC. So since most PS3 owners have a PC if they really want an “exclusive” bad enough they’ll get they can get the PC version.

As far as a new 360 with HD-DVD, well WB just announced they are going blu-ray exclusive this year. So that just leaves Paramount and Universal to put movies out on HD-DVD.

built in wi-fi? wait you mean people that want to play online don’t want to have to use ethernet cords? That’s crazy talk.

320 GB hard drive? Considering the 120 GB is $200 what’s the 320 on going to be $500?

@Tom
microsoft did a good thing by not including an HD DVD drive. the only thing HD DVD’s would have done for the Xbox 360 is make it more expensive. Capacity limitations is a hype generated by none other then sony. Blu ray offers the kind capacity needed for an altra elabotit game like mass effect… damn that right they but that huge ass game on a DVD-9 (8.6GB Dual layer).

the three thing that take up the most room on a game disk are:
Texture maps
Pre-rendered compressed or un-compressed FMVs
audio file (compressed or un-compressed)

all of this get compiled into proprietary file types that only the parent console can read.
(game file on consoles for example will have big files in the range of 1-2GB).
But the point im trying to make is that you don’t have to use Unique texture, you can apply algorithm to your texture file to make them have different charcteristics. Another space saver is Game rendered FMV’s which uses half if not 1/4 of the space of a Pre-rendered FMV.
Me and my Friends have decompiled many games even some PS3 games (RE:fall of man, Heavenly swords) man are they poorly compiled. Heavenly swords is a giant false demand for space game, some article have reported 10GB of sound files, it’s more like 10.45GB , but it’s mostly uncompressed PCM files, which in it self is a wast of space, only audio professionals with $2000 equipment could even hear the differences. and another huge wast of space was the Mpeg 4 FMV the smallest onese were on averge 450MB. the games data files can be sumd up in Two words “pointless excess”.

even in terms of transferable data, the blu ray is bad compared to a regular (tried and tested DVD-9)

Bluray drive in PS3:
Read mechanism:
1x@36 Mbit/s or 4.5 MB/s
2x@72 Mbit/s or 9 MB/s

DVD drive in Xbox 360:
Read mechanism:
12X@127.20 Mbit/s or 15.9 MB/s

I want to see exclusives which drive the power of the console they are made for, rather that than make a game for the lowest common denominator – the Xbox 360. The potential of the PS3 has not been tapped yet and I think the next 2 years will show this especially now the costs for development kits have gone down and smaller companies can cash in. BTW – has anyone bitching about the PS3 actually seen Unchartered?? This was the best looking game of 2007 – far better than GOW or Halo. Also was a superb game to play!
Point about Blu Ray – it will be interesting for all the people who say that Sony have forced the blu ray player down the neck of the consumer when the format war really hots up, Sony will have the advantage especially as Blu Ray outsells HD DVD by at least 2:1 worldwide (3:1 in Europe).
Point about reliability – I have had 4 Xbox 360′s – I have an Elite now and it still freezes up!! MS made some serious errors with this machine from the offset all because they wanted to get their greedy little noses infront in the console war. I had to buy a separate HD DVD drive – and now they tell me that the Xbxo 360 Ultimate may be coming out with one already installed!!! I would have liked to see it from the start rather than have clunky addons to a clunky console with all it’s leads and power packs. What a pain in the arse! 3 versions of the same console because they did’nt get it right in the first place…Sony covered all boundaries for the future…nameley HDMI, high def drive, no cost for online play (though this may change), awesome reliability 0.2% failure rate worldwide compared to MS’s 5% (no wonder the Japanese won’t buy it!!).
Yes Microsoft have a solid game base at the moment, but still the gameplay revolves around online functionality – I WANT GOOD SINGLE PLAYER GAMES!!! ONLINE GAMEPLAY IS SECONDARY TO THE QUALITY OF THE GAME ITSELF!!!
Regards, owner of both consoles.

Interesting…Warner Brothers have dropped their support for HD DVD and declared it’s exclusive support for Blu Ray…

people the xbox is a very good machine. the reason y some games may look better is because it’s been out longer and the developers are used to ut. however the ps3 has much better hardware and is more powerful . a game that should show which console graphics are better will be GTA IV lets wait til then and stop having a heart attack about which machines better. ( i own the ps3 and 360 and i prefer the ps3 which is my opinion

Ok. I have both systems. Hands down, the PS3 is the better console. Here’s why:

1) Blu Ray Player
2) Upconverts standard DVD’s
3) FREE Playstation Online Service
4) Has a built in WiFi
5) Exclusive PS3 games look marvelous
6) Internet Browser

While I give the 360 kudos in terms of game library and controller, developers have just begun to scratch the surface on the PS3 and it’s potential.

My thoughts:

1. PS3 has better looking / sounding exclusives than xbox 360! (I’m talking all of the exclusives between the two).

2. XBOX360 exclusives are better (for now) in gameplay (Mass Effect, Gears, etc.) and overall experience (they have achievements).

Given that, I still would take a PS3 over a XBOX. Why? Because of the RRoD, NO HD DVD, NON-FREE XBOX LIVE SERVICE, AND A SUCKY HISTORY WITH THE XBOX!! [Can you imagine people who bought the XBOX? Its like they just left the system up in the air!!! Just look at the PS2, still getting its fair share of games after so many years!)

Whether you’ve owned both systems or not can have absolutely nothing to do with you saying that upcoming games seem better on ps3 than 360. How can owning a system influence your opinion on something nobody has even played yet? ps3 has excellent potential, which I doubt will ever be realized. It’s got the smallest market share, the longest and most difficult development period for games, the highest risk, and absolutely horrible promotion and advertisment from Sony. (I went into a Sony store, they had a single ps3 set-up for use, and all there was on it was movie trailers, not a single playable game.) Sony’s priority was pushing technology that wasn’t even fully developed, and it’s going to cost them. Developers have already shifted a lot of resources away from development for the system, leaving only the companies that are too embedded to leave until their projects hace been completed.

ha ha haaaaaaaa the M$ fanboys cent take it,and its all real FACT,please M$ fans,stop giveing false facts and buy a ps3.

ha ha haaaaaaaa the M$ fanboys can’t take it,and its all real FACT,please M$ fans,stop giveing false facts and buy a ps3.

Someone,
cod4,is better on ps3 and there both running in 60 fps,also,all what your saying is not true.gears is not better than UR Tournament 3,halo is not better than racket and lank.
i bet u didnt even saw it for your self.

Good Point! Michael. Online gaming is overrated. Not all gamers want to play online. Sony is smart to separate the two.

Single player game is like a book. U finished the book, move onto the next book. buy another game. But Online game like WOW, Starcraft and TF, it is like a book that never end. It could be bad for the platform. Just look at PC, it is nothing but WOW.

ps3 is using 35% (OF POWER) on the last games that came out.
360 is useing 90% and that a fact.
im out

@MDK Good Single player games what about Assassin’s Creed, Mass Effect and BioShock. PS3 has great reliability and is fully equiped to handle it’s role as a Media Center Hub. But The Xbox has the best Games at the moment. I’m sure 2008 will eventhings out a lot. I’ll check out incharted Sound like a good game. Heavenly Sword looks cool.

yeah as stated before…warner brothers has dropped support of HD-DVD, not its exclusive to Blu-Ray….ouch M$ fans…and besides. uncharted is the best game for graphics EVER…and guess what M$ fans, uncharted 2 is on its way and metal gear soild 4 is a PS3 exclusive. have fun at ur rumor sites trying to find someone to say its on the 360 in a years time. the ps3 is built for the future…and sorry M$ fans…but thats where we are going

“ps3 is using 35% (OF POWER) on the last games that came out.
360 is useing 90% and that a fact.
im out”

Please tell me where you got these facts? or did you just pull them out of your arse?

I have a 360 elite and love it, I think the graphics are great and I have a HD-DVD add-on.
Will I buy the new one when it comes out, sure I will, but everyone dont have too, and thats the point. MS isnt making you buy it, they are simply giving you the option.

Sony is a good system, I dont own one, and dont really care too, at least not until FFXIII. But Sony has releases several skus also becuase people would not pay the steep price for the system. So sony keeps taking things out of the system to lower the price. Didnt they talk bad about MS having a emulator in the 360, now they have one in the 80gig and the 40gig is not even backward compatible… just seems like a “insert foot in mouth”.

WOW I think people just make stuff up. I read these post and I say another low paid loser on a website trying to act like he knows something lol. Like the one post about ps3 being out a couple years already. I must of been in a coma and missed that. Ive had all the systems I like em all. I play what I want when I want. I dont care what sounds better, what looks better. Actually the 360 is in the closet cause it dont read disks anymore but whocares. Its a great frigin bookend. Im gonna get another 360 to go on the other side. But the 360 never working is besides the point. Just cause I cant play it anymore for the 3rd time doesnt mean its not a good system. Look at Datsun cars and Renault vehicles they were good companys. And how about enron , there was somebody I should of invested with. Look at all the good things Hitler did. I mean comeon stop ragging on the good companys and find some bad ones.

Well, 2007 is over welcome the new year in 2008 were the stakes get even higher. My bet is the PS3 & blu-ray. See ya xbox 180

@ DJ… truer than true my friend… especially with WB announcing exclusivity to Blu-Ray… makes the 360 HD-DVD movie feature another Beta… blu-ray = 70% all movie content exclusive.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/95a0fdc6-bb07-11dc-9fbc-0000779fd2ac.html

xbox = beta player, crap reliability even with falcon, no longer lead plat on most 3rd party devs

I’m sick of the whole “PS3 Costs way more so it sucks” argument. Would you like to do a cost breakdown? Lets see the total cost to match the capabilities of one another shall we?

Alright…..

80 GB PS3: $500
This includes a blueray player, wireless internet, bluetooth capability with the ability to handle 7 bluetooth devices simultaneously (4 controllers, DVD remote, Keyboard, mouse)

120 GB 2.5″ SATA HDD: $70
This gives the PS3 that extra bit of HDD space that it was lacking. Now, mind you that it could have been a 250 GB drive for $150, $30 less than Micro$oft happens to charge for a 120 GB HDD

Now this gives us a Blueray player, wireless internet access, and a large HDD that we can actually put Divx movies onto and watch…..with the OtherOS platform, we can even back up Blueray DVDs if we so desire…

120GB Elite: $450
Don’t get me wrong….the 360 has some great games. I’ve had lots of fun with GoW, Geometry Wars, Forza 2, and Mass Effect. It’s a great system, and I won’t ignore that.

Wireless Adapter: $100
Time to purchase our external, not included wireless adapter.

HD-DVD Player: $170
Remember, we are matching specs here….In order for all to be equal, we need to add this drive. Some of us wish to do a one-stop shop with out consoles. Don’t forget the added bonus of King Kong

Now lets tally this up….

PS3 with user replaceable 120GB HDD: $570
And remember, with just $20 extra, we can take that 80 GB HDD and make it an external….great space for storing backups of downloaded games in case you need to redownload them.

360 with 120GB HDD, wireless adapter, and HD-DVD player: $725
Again, a stellar product. Great games, wireless capability, HD playback. We have a great system here, however, this shatters the myth of te PS3 being wildly expensive….Now, pray to whatever god you worship that your console doesn’t get visited by the angel of death. That would mean 6-8 weeks with no console, and $20 in shipping charges back to Redmond

Not trying to flame any system, both are great consoles. The engineering of the 360 needs a little work, but still a purchase that no one should be disappointed with. I have all 3 next gen systems, all get about equal playtime. But, overall, the PS3 gets the most use. Media extender, and ability to listen to my music anywhere with my PSP makes it a great choice for me….

Another Sony garbage propaganda. Nice headline, too bad there’s nothing too back it up in the actual article. What games are you talking about exactly? MGS4? LOL. Keep spinning, keep spinning, that’s the Sony strategy. Since Sony obviously has the “10-year plan” for the PS3, there’s no point buying one now. All exclusives for the PS3 right now are garbage (Lair, anyone?), and 99.9% of the games that come out for both the PS3 and the 360 look and play better on the 360. Of course, diehard sony supporters will deny the obvious truth. It’s been over a year and the PS3 still has no AAA title. Still in last place. BTW, did you hear that the 360 has sold over 17 million worldwide? Dream on, Sony.

Sony using only using 35% of its power? LOL. I guess you read the meter on the outside of the PS3 that says it’s only using 35% of its power, right? Dream on, OMEN. You’re a moron. Actually, the 360 is using only 22% of its power, while it’s a KNOWN FACT that the PS3 is using 85% of its power. Go home, loser.

I confess i AM a 360 fanboy, but should also say that i live in the UK, where the cheapest ps3 sku is £349, whereas the 360 elite is only £299,

There will always be ps people and xbox people but the
good thing is that there are xbox people at all,because when the xbox was first released sony was arrogant it was the best and nobody could change dat, wen 360 came out even sony have been taken back by just how much of its market is gone

Blu Ray sales drive the ps3 sales, but the truth is if u take out the blu ray drive wat extra do u get 4 ur money. Dont buy the system for a good future purchase, u buy it for now,at the min the 360 just has more tricks up its sleeve. In 5 years time for all the people looking into the most sound console in the future ur blu ray drives and hd-addon drives may sit being rediculously underused, as more and more movies move to a software marketplace, it happened in music and it will happen eventually to movies and films, because its just keeping up with the times.

I stand on the side of the 360 because i have 3 xbox’s and neva had a rrod so iv never wanted to kick mine lol, and although its dropping noticeably, there is still a high failure rate. But wen u turn it on ur welcomed in the arms of high deff,a rich software that is so easy to understand and if microsoft sit down and get the hardware as good as there software then the 360 can go places

my oppinion. the ps3 is the better console i had 360 from day 1 but switched the only thing i miss is some people online. not set up on ps3 properly yet tho headset ect. also i got ps3 around 2 week ago from GAME and it was &299 so you only pay &20 more that not much it. also if 360 was the better console then the 360 ultimate wouldent be coming out it wouldnt be needed. MS cought scared.

Dude you are stupid, excluives are great, but third party titles are the bread and butter of any format and to date there is no one multi-platform game that looks better on the PS3 than the 360 and it never will as these games require systems that are easy to develop.

the PS3 is this generations sega saturn

I agree In online perspective PS3′s Home is gonna kill Xbox live in so many ways & apparently xbox will try to do some similar to that of ps3′s home, cuz they are afraid that they are going to lose their customers, so u might expect that in the future & right now Cause they didn’t have as much features as sony did & now they decided to copy sony & either way Blu-ray format is way better than Hd dvd ( i still have my resistance game since the day it came out & not a single stratch is on the shiny disc) It has MOre Space for developers to add on to their video games & thats something they really want, & the quality of disc are so freakin amazing video, & audio Are way better than any other format I every used, SO SONY Has better experience than Microsoft in the gaming business & This is the Year for SONY’s PS3 To Shine.

Killzone 2
little big planet
Metal gear solid 4
HOME
Grand turismo
SOCOM
God of War
Grand theft auto 4 (isnt exclusive, but is gonna run better on blu-ray disc)
Hopefully resistance 2
& thats just to name a few

Expect more developers wanting to use the blu-ray format better than hd dvd

I find it shocking that articles such as yours sir, by clearly ignorant sole system supporting fanboys such as yourself are still given any webspace by anyone, let alone NewsNow. Go away, sit down and think about what you’ve written. Come back when you have something relevant or factual to say you hack.

Most of you dont even know what your talking about. You wana know what the floor is with PS3 and why it has slow frame rates

PS3 = 2 x 256mb ram @ 25gb/second
360 = 512 mb ram @ 22.5gb/second with 10mb of graphics ram running at 256gb/second for frames

PS3 is floored it has a fancy processor that does not have enough memory bandwidth to supply it

if you all do some research before you started chatting rubbish you would not be wasting your time.

PS3 is a very good console but its extremely costly to develope for which is why you are going to see the big games looking nice and everything else looking better on the 360 which designed to keep the cost down for developers thats why games are now made for the 360 and then ported over to the PS3.

So yes some titles will look really good on the PS3 because it is a good console when developers have deep pockets to make the games for it. So for all you Sony fan boys Sony are to so clever after all and bow down to the real company with with brains

Nintendo. legends in there own right if you dont believe me look at sales figures

I live in Japan, and a fan of the playstation, the one thing that is most important to me is the quality of the product in terms games/playability and the machine actually works with no faults. Currently Sony been sluggish with good titles, but I rather wait for a highly polished and tested game than for them to rush a release date. I have good memories when I first played Metal Gear and Gran Turismo on the PS1, Play Station has always come through with something that blows you away.

I never did get a Xbox, because anything with the Microsoft badge is bad news !!!!

Oh, I forgot to say, both Nintendo DS and Wii is kicking Xbox and PS3 in the butt.so Nintendo is he winner!!!

Now Warner brothers and new line cinema have gone Blu-ray exclusive who cares if Microsoft add a drive to the 360, it will be dead before its released!! haha

And also when they decide to drop HD-DVD too all the 360/HD add-on owners are going to be pretty annoyed i would think. Good!

i got a z box beates thenm alllllll wankers

Just to every xbox fanboy your so called exclusives:

Halo 3 – Going to the PC like all other Halo’s
Bioshock – Also on the PC
Gears of War – oh it on the PC
Mass Effect – Did you hear the developers are making a ps3 version

Virtually every so called 360 exclusive has ended up on the PC!!

Everyone thinking that 360 ports are better
Cod4 on 360 runs at 600i and is scaled up to 720p
on the PS3 Cod4 runs at 1080p…

BTW For any of you that this MGS4 is still coming tot he 360 go on.
xbox360fanboydotcom and search :
Konami emphatically denies latest MGS4 rumor

The xbox360 has reached its peak in 2007, 2008 is the PS3′s turn.

@ Deviclry2k6

Man your a retard. YOu realize what your saying.
You say Dead Rising, Gears of War, Bioshock, Halo3, Mass effect “ECLIPSE RATCHET AND CLANK, UNCHARTED, AND HEAVENLY SWORD.” OK dead rising is not better than any of these games. Gears and bioshock are for computer. Most fps are better than halo 3. And Mass Effect is glitch fest.

LOL people who say ps3 is dead and its the sega saturn of this gen. Two things to point out. There is no I in team we all know and if it was solely on either xbox or ps3 xbox would choke. If it wasnt for people supporting them and making their games they would choke. They can never get anything right and thats what billions do to you, make you make bad decisions cause you can risk it. HD-DVD The format war is coming to an end quick. Why, cause movie studios, retail outlets are taking serious hits cause no one is decided. So now they are deciding in favor of Blue ray. Some might think its unfair to old billionire Bill but in all actuality cost of production and qaulity mean nothing, its how can I sll you more options. Everything in life is sold with options. Healthcare, Dental Plans, Cell Phones, Computers, even stuff bought at electronic stores give you options for multiple warranties. Everything money made is made on options. Thats why BluRay will win. It gives you that much more. You know in Highschool I was most likely to fail in life. Even the principle came to an old job and said he still works here, figures I didnt see much of a future. lol. Now that im worth over 30 million I wonder what they think. Point of the matter is, dont be too quick to call ps3 out, their smart like Nintendo, have the money to back em, and are solely in the entertainment business.

Look if you think that Blueray will beat hddvd this year, your crazy, 92% of the dvd market hasnt voted in yet bc its too expensive. Right know blueray is doing very well with the richer side of life, but a recent poll showed that 60-70% of undecided people choose hddvd bc the hardware was cheaper.
So whats my point, hd is better no. I bought an hd player for $100 on sale, when blueray goes down to that price ill buy it. People will not spend $200 to 900 for dvd player that supports movie that sell for $20-30.
But remeber hd and blueray fighting has drove the price down to rock bottom, which is great for consumers. While hd keeps movie studios it has, blueray continues down its path and maybe gets more of its ps3 owners to use its blueray player(studies show that 60-40% dont know ps3 is a blueray player), and time warner keep producing both formats, then the war will continue, which benfits consumers.

Time warner for everyons information, has not chosen a side and are going to be producing both formats, By the was for all hd and blueray owner, 2008 Lord of the rings triology

i have to say i loved the games on my ps3.But i sold it for a 360 which had the better games this year but MGS4 has no chance of ever seeing the light of day on the 360. Nothing would make me happier than to see it on the 360 but it wont happen.

Not a console lover
Game lover
I follow the games

@SALT

Man you smoking SALT? The war is over. Warner Bros goes Blu-ray exclusive starting May of 08. Blu-ray now holds %70 percent of the market. Please read.

Breaking News – Warner Goes Blu-ray Exclusive!
The Blu-ray/HD-DVD war has just moved to a new level as Warner Home Video has officially announced that will go Blu-ray exclusive beginning in May 2008. Up to this point, Warner has been releasing its high-def titles on both Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Obviously, this move places HD-DVD at a huge market disadvantage in its battle with Blu-ray for high definition disc format dominance. Universal and Paramount will the only major studios releasing programming in HD-DVD as of May 2008.

Buh-bye! Walking-dead HD DVD cancels CES appearance after Warner goes Blu-ray exclusively
, delivers a de facto knockout punch to the rival HD DVD format backed by Toshiba Corp. and others now supported by only two of Hollywood’s six major movie studios,” Chmielewski reports.

“‘Expect HD DVD to die a quick death,’ said Richard Greenfield, an analyst with Pali Research in New York, in a research note Friday,” Chmielewski reports.

@SALT

LMFAO your just mad you wasted $100 on a HD-DVD player. Blue-ray won the high def war a long time ago.

You’re an idiot, this has absolutely no merrit, it’s just some moron jibbering about something he knows nothing of.

PC Games blow all three formats away… Actually thats a generalisation, the Wii is good for family games and visitors as you dont have to spend an hour explaining the controlls, the xbox is good value if you dont want a blueray player and the PS3is good of you do… as for graphics and sound etc… isnt gameplay and bieng entertained more important?.. afterall thats the point of playing video games, otherwise just watch some CGI intensive movie instead… eg. assasins creed is beautiful but the game play is dull, gears of war looks awesome but has poor online play (suffers chronically from lag issues at least when compared to COD 4)… this wreaks of the whole my C64 is better than your speccy… at the end of the day its only as good as the software written for it.
incedentally, I use my xbox in conjunction with my Media Center PC as an extender… I dont thing the PS3 has this functionality?… anyway.. its a moot point… specs mean nothing… qualuty software does.

ps. online HD video Streaming and download will blow HD and blueray away completely… physical media is already becoming legacy gear, just look at music… video is going the same way

Rich Wrote:

“OK guys, I have been in the video game industry for over 20 years, it is quite simple. I am not a fan boy of any system, so take that out of your head. Microsoft can release an Xbox360 but it will not be for games b/c millions of other 360 owners do not have and HD-DVD drive. It will not make sense for ANY publisher to make games for the HD-DVD360, because of the limited user base and unhappy non HD-DVD 360 owners.

SIMPLE RULE —> Whenever buying electronics… purchase something for the future, not the present, if not, you will end up with a bunch of add-ons, which, historically speaking has never worked out in the video game market.

BOTTOM LINE—> SONY thinks of the future, not the present and it is beginning to pay off…. as it almost ALWAYS does.”

SIMPLE RULE –> That rule only applies to electronics out side of the gaming world. both the PS1 and PS2 were technologically inferior to there competitors console. Console add-ons never hurt the producer or the consumer unless it becomes a requirement for gaming or required to play a certain game (FFXI PS2 HDD).
“historically speaking” as you say never has a console won because of it’s hardware, but the reverse is true to a certain degree. Take the Sega Saturn, most people blame bad advertising, poor game library etc. But the truth is:
it was too expensive to produce, The architecture of it’s dual CPU (not Dual core, Tandem CPU, two CPU on one board) made it hard to develop for. Also it’s basic geometric artifacts were quadrilaterals which is difficult to render in (well back then) Vs the PS1 which rendered it’s basic shapes as Triangles.

BOTTOM LINE–> Sony never thought of the future before, in fact there track record of winning console war was:
-High console penetration rates
-High Number of PS only exclusives
-Low end Hardware that they could sell for more (PS2) the EE CPU was powerful in an odd way I will explain in a different post.
having hardware that has “future potential” never works in terms of console, if it was true then these following consoles would have Been in production, and would have sold for years:

Consoles:
-TurboGrafx-16/PC engine
-NeoGeo
-CD-I
-3DO Interactive Multiplayer
-Atari Jaguar
-Sega Saturn
-Nintendo 64 (didn’t really loose just didn’t sell as much as the PS1 120million Vs 31million)
-Nintendo GameCube
-Microsoft Xbox

Handheld:
-Atari linx
-Sega gamegear
-TurboExpress
-NeoGeo Pocket
-Game.com
-NeoGeo Pocket Color
-GP32
-PSP (DS 53.64 million (as of September 30, 2007 , PSP 14.49 million (as of March 31, 2007)

again i would like to stress the point that technically superior hardware in console never made a console last long if that were true the Xbox would still be a major player. All it would take to fuck PS3 in 4 years lest say, would be for Microsoft and Nintendo to release a console with better specs and a cheaper price tag, and all that talk of “future potential would fly out the window.

@Ian

“ps. online HD video Streaming and download will blow HD and blueray away completely… physical media is already becoming legacy gear, just look at music… video is going the same way ”

yes that is why Microsoft isn’t pushing the HD DVD player on the Xbox 360, because all Xbox 360 owners with the HDD can download HS movies withough leaving home. shoo i don’t own HD DVD or Bluray player for the simple fact that i can download, stream and up convert my own medai with my PC and stream it to my Xbox 360 with Windows media player. and all of this cost less then buying a phisical media and player.

PS3 is the superior system, and much better value (includes Hard drive, BluRay, wireless in base model). However, PS3 has failed because of their lack of exclusives. Alan Wake, if I recall was supposed to be only possible on PS3 – now it is only available on 360. MGS4 will now be coming to 360. Maybe Killzone 2 and FFXIV will be enough reason to buy a PS3, but with these trends they will eventually be on 360 anyway.

CE

@ Deviclry2k6

Man your a retard. You realize what your saying.
You say Dead Rising, Gears of War, Bioshock, Halo3, Mass effect “ECLIPSE RATCHET AND CLANK, UNCHARTED, AND HEAVENLY SWORD.” OK dead rising is not better than any of these games. Gears and bioshock are for computer. Most fps are better than halo 3. And Mass Effect is glitch fest.

yes i am retarded, Gears of War and Biochock and any game ported from the Xbox 360 to the PC is no longer an exclusive. especially when you take into account the that PC games are run on Windows XP and Vista, which is made by microsoft…. Wait theres a connection there Microsoft also made the Xbox 360, so they are competing…WITH THEM SELVES . WOW AND I’M THE RETARD.
As for Mass Effect:
‘s showing at E3 2006 was well received and resulted in the game winning several awards. These include:
* Game Critics Awards’ Best Role-Playing Game
* 1UP.com’s Best of E3 2006: Best 360 Game
* TeamXbox’s Best of E3 2006: Best Xbox 360 game;[35] Best of E3 2006: Best RPG
* GameSpy’s Best of E3 Awards 2006: Best RPG
The game earned the following post-release awards and nominations:

Spike TV Awards
* Nominated: Game of the Year, Best RPG, Best Graphics, Best Xbox 360 Game, Best Original Score.
* Awarded: Best RPG
GameStooge Awards
* Nominated: Best Xbox 360 Game, Best Roleplaying Game, Best Music Score – Original, Best Writing.
GameTrailers Awards
* Nominated: Game of the Year, Best Xbox 360 Game, Best Story, Best RPG, Best New Game.
* Awarded: Best RPG, Best New Game.
TeamXbox Awards
* Reader’s Choice Nominated: Game of the Year, Best RPG, Best Story, Best Graphics, Best Sound, Bioware was nominated for Developer of the Year.
* Reader’s Choice Awards: Best RPG, Best Story.
* Awarded: Game of the Year, Best RPG, Best Story.
GameSpot Best of 2007 Awards
* Nominated: Best Story, Best New Characters, Best Role-playing Game.
* Awarded: Best Voice Acting, Best Original Music.

A complete list of awards can be found at the game’s official website.

Glitch filled as it is anyone with half a brain could tell you how addictive this “RPG” is. What makes mass Effect so good is that not only does it have great character design, and story, the game play is phenomenal. And sens Sony fanbois love cut scenes they would love this game, plus the game has a great STORY, a word so many of you have forgotten when playing a game.

What a joke of an article! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that a console that is running multiple sports titles at 60 frames a second (360) is better than a console that allegedly has one sports title NBA 08 running at 60 FPS. I have owned both systems and clearly the smoothness and quality of the games are better on the 360 at this time. Example; on some sports games the players uniforms have fuzzy details on PS3 and on 360 are crisp and clear. I could go on and on with examples to support 360 over PS3 not just limited to sports titles.

Well have the 360 and the PS3 and other than Heavenly sword as far as graphics are concerned I (d*mn short game tho) the PS3 is basically a $600.00 paper weight
sigh…… maybe next year they will shake something loose for the public?

- boy a lot of people are responding to this. To make it simple though, the best hardware so far is ps3. It still has much to go, no one can fully operate its cell processor, and basically no one has reached its full potential when if you look at xbox 360 games. They are showing quite a similarity to each other and that there’s nothing to improve on. Gears of War is the best looking game on xbox 360 so far and Halo 3, Mass Effect, & Bioshock either looks worse than it or equally the same. Now Playstation 3 games such as Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune is said to use only about 30% of the power of the PS3. There’s so much left to go. Also to whoever it may concern, Metal Gear Solid 4 is not going to come to xbox 360. Konami butchered that rumor on January 2nd, one day after the rumor came out. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a playstation 3 exclusive …..FOREVER.

LOL at all the clowns on here trying to redeem there $600 paper wieghts from last year SMH. “Just wait…Just wait and see”

Please just shut up. I couldnt care less how powerful the PS3 is. 90% of the few exclussive games they do have don’t even had release dates.

And the sad thing is they use to say that the xbox was much more powerful than the ps2. Yet there really wasn’t any games out there that made most people wanna run out and buy it.

Now look….

Sony is paying top dollar for publicist and marketing so stop doing it for them for free LOL!!!

PS3 fanboys are so boring and just make the PS3 look bad. Get lives.

@ Deviclry2k6

Quote
“yes i am retarded, Gears of War and Biochock and any game ported from the Xbox 360 to the PC is no longer an exclusive. especially when you take into account the that PC games are run on Windows XP and Vista, which is made by microsoft…. Wait theres a connection there Microsoft also made the Xbox 360, so they are competing…WITH THEM SELVES . WOW AND I’M THE RETARD.”

You truly are a dumb ass. Why the hell would people want to get a 360 when most of its games go to the pc. There much better on PC( gears, bioshock, shadowrun etc.) If you can afford a game system im sure you can afford a computer

I played Mass Effect for a half an hour and got stuck in a wall 3 times. Mabye this only happened to me but i doubt it. What i played was boring, and my 360 scratched the disk to hell. effin 360′s are the crappiest machines i have ever seen. WTF. Some people are really stupid enouph to get sucked in by microsoft. Half those awards you named are nominations and the wins are for mostly best rpg. I wonder why? It was the only decent rpg.

Uncharted using only 30% of the PS3′s power? Uhm.. Shut up!? It’s using pretty much ALL resources and STILL it has some nasty, ugly graphics in parts. Way to overrate an overrated console.

Anyone who says PS3 has far better graphics hardware or buys one for that reason, needs to shake off the Sony propaganda, the hardware is just TOO OLD now for it to go any further than the 360 already has, oh and it’s hardware is too old to handle a proper game that would fully embrace the capacities of Blu-Ray. Sony planned the PS3 awfully, it’s as bad as the 360′s case.

PS3 is so, SO overrated.

360 fanboys are so dumb. How can you think its actually good.

@ whatsittoyou…how do you explain that games look so good on the PS3 then?? As with all console releases the games only get better with time and the PS3 has an ultimate lifespan. The 360 is still riddled with problems including freezing up and the RROD. Not to mention the over emphasis of online play which has blighted the industry so much as to neglect the magic required to make a fantastic game. I’m gonna throw my 360 outta the fuckin’ window … arggGGHHH!!! Errr…excuse me … I’ve had lots of beer…Did’nt mean it Xbox. I still like PGR4.

@ nairB

Dude MGS4 Is not going to the 360
& If your gonna say false facts you better have somthing to back up that clam. also U believe that most these games are coming to 360 later on but ur sadly mistaking only cause u dont believe a console which was built very poorly (xbox 360)
That now they have to freakin remake the freakin model 4 the 4th or 5th time & they will continue to make these freakin mistakes cause they just cant get it right, unlike PS3 They know what there doing & so far There updates allow you to customize just about anything on your ps3 (XMB menu)mainly & it will only get better in the next decade or so. jst look at ps2 Its still selling well & it hasnt been throw away like Xbox has been. & expect the PS3 to surpass its potential in the near future.

P.S. to all the others who believe that the ps3 was running at full power on drake. Open your Minds why would a console made to last 10 yrs be using its full power in its first year, people are way smarter than that. Get it right People Think for once without speaking!!!!!

are you people looking at games or playing them i don’t know i don’t buy games to look at them i play them.
its like you guys are buying sex but not having sex you just want to watch. its a waste of money

well sed that man!

“Uncharted using only 30% of the PS3’s power? Uhm.. Shut up!? It’s using pretty much ALL resources and STILL it has some nasty, ugly graphics in parts. Way to overrate an overrated console.”

You have know idea what you are talking about. Period. You are just making things up out of your ass. The PS2 took a few years for its games to run at its full potential. The same can be said for the PS3.

“Anyone who says PS3 has far better graphics hardware or buys one for that reason, needs to shake off the Sony propaganda, the hardware is just TOO OLD now for it to go any further than the 360 already has”

Where the hell do you get this garbage? You are truly full of crap.

“You truly are a dumb ass. Why the hell would people want to get a 360 when most of its games go to the pc.”

Because not every one can afford or has the skills necessary to build a a gaming rig. I have a $3000 PC i built my self:
Asus M2N32 WS pro mobo
AMD Athlon X2 6000+
4GB DDR2 RAM
150GB 10,000RPM Raptor HDD
2x 160GB HDD (Seagate)
2x 1TB HDD (Seagate)
2x 500GB HDD (Seagate)
850W Thermeltake Power supply
512MB ATI 1950XT (Sapphire)
two 20″ BenQ monitor
I use my PC mainly for other thing like CAD work , Media Ripping, Encoding, backing up my DVDs, Compiling, photo shop work. I got My Xbox 360 Xmas 06 befor i built my PC in march 07. So i bought the games for my Xbox 360, not because my Computer sucks but because i Use my computer mostly for work and Archiving my media collection.

“There much better on PC( gears, bioshock, shadowrun etc.) If you can afford a game system I’m sure you can afford a computer.” NO…

-Mother board $99
-Case $29,
-DVD burner $29,
-CPU E6600 Core2duo $239 or AMD Athlon 6000+ $159
-Video Card at least 279 for a Dx 10 card with a descent spec sheet
-160GB HDD $79
-500W power supply $59

=$813(Intel), 733(AMD)

VS.

-Xbox 360 Arcade $279 + 3 games $59. each (shadow run was fucking horrible, ehhh)

= $456

yeah to some people paying 813 so your kid can play games seems to be allot. and guess what it it. and also for allot of people $813 is a months rent. so no not every one who can afford a console can afford a “GAMING CAPABLE COMPUTER”

“I played Mass Effect for a half an hour and got stuck in a wall 3 times. Maybe this only happened to me but i doubt it.”
yes it does only happen to you, i played the game from 8:00am till 4:50am when the game came out. the most that happen to me was slow downs. I also have 20people on my Xbox live list that have the game and they never experienced that glitch, some hoe ever got frozen screens, that sucks.

“What i played was boring,”
Boring if you have the attention span of a rodent.

“and my 360 scratched the disk to hell.”
You go to Mass effect web site>support>Disk replacement program. that only happens if you tilt the console when the disk is spinning.

“effin 360’s are the crappiest machines i have ever seen.”
PS2 had some of the same problems if not worse ones.

“WTF. Some people are really stupid enough to get sucked in by Microsoft.”
some people are stupid enough to think that the PS3 is going to last ten years.

“Half those awards you named are nominations and the wins are for mostly best rpg. I wonder why? It was the only decent rpg.”

no because it’s a fucking good game. Half of the nominated games on the PS3 are mostly because there are no good games on the console? I wonder why, is it because even after a year after the Xbox 360 launch Sony was to stupid to make there hardware DX 10 capable, with 1GB of system memory instead of pushing it as a blu ray player?

Anthony wrote:
“P.S. to all the others who believe that the ps3 was running at full power on drake. Open your Minds why would a console made to last 10 yrs be using its full power in its first year, people are way smarter than that. Get it right People Think for once without speaking!!!!!”

So Sony made the PS3 to last Ten years. Did Sony tell you this?

“Open your Minds why would a console made to last 10 yrs be using its full power in its first year”

wow some one drank the “Sony propaganda Bullshit coolaid”

If you understood anything about how consoles work then you would not have said that.
the PS3 nore the Xbox 360 are future proof.
if you think a console with 256MB of System Ram and 256 Video RAM is going to last 10 years you need help. What made the PS1 and PS2 last so long was a huge library of exclusive GAMES, not powerful hardware.

“Get it right People Think for once without speaking!!!!!”

I think the same can be say about you.
The time have change long running consoles like the PS1 and PS2 are long behind use. 5 years. If in five year Nintendo & Microsoft release another console, sony would have to be out of there minds to wait 5 more years to release there PS4.

Please STFU all.

We all know PS3 is the best.

The End.

the ps3 is more powerful than xbox check the specs the 360 has a better gpu but the ps3 processor is unrivaled & unparalled in power (i’t has 8 cores u dumbass) check any reputable review site like cnet they’ll tell u that the ps3 is the most powerfull system

Well this has been an interesting debate. As of now XBOX 360 is winning, due to that it has been out a year earlier, but PS3 will soon take over that title. Mainly because it is on the rise, PS3 took only a year to get to 60fps capability, whereas XBOX 360 took two years. PS3 exclusives will be on the rise as well in 08′. And I can assure anyone out there that MGS4 WILL NOT BE ON THE XBOX 360!(I have been assured of that by someone in Konami). And for the format debate, PS3 has won that battle because Warner Bros just dropped HD DVD and they are only to produce Blu Ray movies. So whoever is buying the HD DVD player for the xbox or just because don’t bother, because HD DVD only will not last its two company support, but they will soon part with them with this immediate change from Warner Bros. And as for the quality of games, XBOX 360 is winning because it has been out much longer, so you can’t really give PS3 a fair comparison of XBOX three years and PS3 three years because that has not happened yet. Also the games for XBOX 360 do not spand further than the American audience, whereas the PS3 games grasps the Asian market, with titles such as Drake’s Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank. So in a worldwide sense PS3 will gain the momentum to pass XBOX 360. If I were to pick a console for the future I would pick PS3, but if I were to pick one for the present it would be XBOX 360 with the addition of wi-fi.
GS

I have come to the conclusion that everyone takes every piece of info off the new but truly doesnt understand it. Instead its like someone telling you give this to the guy over there in a crowd of 5 people. Yes you had the right area but wrong guy when you gave them it, My point is 1 10 year life span – what this honestly means is all game companys except for the first xbox have a lifespan of ten years. Yes they make a new system every 5-6 so will ps. In 2011 2012 sometime a ps4 or whatever they call it will come out. When they say ten year life span they dont mean its gonna be the superior upgrable monster for ten years. It means games will still come out for it after another system launches. Atari 2600 did it nintendo did it ps2 is still doing it. So you read but dont use common sense denominations when talking. Problem is most gamers today are newer gamers. Therefore they dont know the console history. They dont know xbox has not revolutionized gaming but is destroying it. My point on that scrap the xbox 4 years down the road. Well make another system way better but get it out fast so people dont forget us. Well change that model 4 times and then keep changing it anytime we sit fit. This is because like every microsoft product no real thinking goes into their products. Look at every single thing they have made and tell me its remotely good. I did like windows 2000 sp2. And they have canned more things then they have made good things. Windows me is one example. Microsoft is the richest company, do you want to know why. Not because he steals ideas anyone can do that. Not because he makes good products. Microsoft is a billion dollar company cause they are like walmart. If you sell more variety, windows vista home vista premium vista ultimate is one example, then you will atleast attract a user base for one of the products. You cant have a store selling dog collars and survive you need variety. S yeah their smart in the business sense, but thats only because people are too blind to see what truly is going on. All they care about is microsoft is awesome cause gears of war rocks. Did microsoft actually make gears of war? NO If gears of war was only on ps3 what would your thinking be. This is my point, and maybe will encourage people to take a step back and think about the 360. Oh and they didnt become nice and extend their warranties to 3 years, that was a court order. So its take a lawsuit hit and then lose all customer fanbase, or lose a little more money and make people believe were doing the right thing. EVeryone forgets how they were charging 180 bucks to fix the rrod. They are not good company at all.
This is not my opinion but a fact in the business mind sense. I dont f my customers nor wait for something to happen before playing a good guy.

Looking so much better in terms of frame frate, sound and graphics.

Based on what? Your close relationship with the game studios. Have you have played some of these exclusive PS3 games, or have you downloaded a video from U-tube. No offence, but lazy, I have five minutes to spare so I’ll write someting in the blog time!

This joker Daniel is smoking some serious greens. PS3 games look like shyt! They haven’t produced a game that lives up to the rendered footage of E3 2005. All the games they now make commercials for are showing rendered cut-scenes (That is so ’90s!) The point of making rendered cut-scenes back in the day was to show the abilities of games coming out in future systems and it always left players disappointed. I want to play the game while it looks like that. These kids get fooled thinking their PS3 is actually producing these images. It’s pre-rendered! They might was well add real life footage in the cut-scenes. It’s not playable dummies! Most PS3 owners are kids that fell for the hype or dudes that wanted a cheap blue ray player. Either way, both are suckers. HD-DVD and Blue-Ray are not needed to view HD video. If these manufacturers and movie studios wanted to, they could easily put HD movies on plain DVDs. It’s all a marketing ploy. They want you to buy your video collection again in HD format, similar to the money they made when people switched from VHS to DVD. Wake up penis heads!

Ok I have been reading these articles for quite some time now and am pissed off about all the $h1t people talk. Lets just get all the facts out in the open. Here are the specs for both systems.
PS3 — First available Nov 11 2006// CPU 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1PPE & 7 SPEs// GPU NVIDIA-SCEI “RSX”// Media Blu-ray, DVD, CD, Super Audio CD (20,60,80 GB models)// System Storage 2.5” SATA hd (20.40,60,80 GB models//Controller input upto 7 SIXAXIS/DUALSHOCK 3 controllers//WI-FI built in and Ethernet // Online service Playstation Network (which is free)//Connections AV Cables HDMI, S-Video, RGB SCART, RCA etc// Upto 4 USP ports

XBOX 360— First available Nov 22 2005// CPU 3.2 GHz PPC Tri-Core Xenon// GPU 500 MHz ATI Xenos// Media DVD, DVD-DL, CD add on HD DVD// System Storage 20 or 120 GB HD, 64,256,512 MB memory card// Controller input 4 wired/wireless combo// 3 USB ports, Ethernet connection//

There….. now for why the PS3 is better.
1) BLU-RAY… need I say more?
2) I can add my OWN 3rd party HD
3) Not MICROSOFT
4) Most of the features ie WI-FI and online play are already there and are free
5) Shelf life means game will continue to be produced for 10 years not “WE will not make a new system every 3-6 months to compete with everyone”
6) Original games will be made for the system not just updated versions of games you can get on other systems (like how at least 85% of all XBOX games can be found or were originally for other systems prior to the PS3)

Now don’t get me wrong people will always have their opinion and this is just mine, but common… buying into the Sony propaganda??? WTF do you think Xbox users are doing? Buying into the Microsoft bs!! I can bet that most of you have eather XP or Vista.. HAHAHAHAHA… goes to show you how much bs you really do buy into doesn’t it. Now the PC is by far the best gamming machine period. No one can debate that. But for consoles it is the Sony PS3. $499 for everything the true gamers or $700+ for Halo 3 (actually created for the MAC) the choice is yours to make! Beinging a gamer that was alive when Atari first came out till now….. my choice is the PS3.

@Sony
“the rendered footage of E3 2005″???

Wtf are you talking about. Only game i can think of that was rendered footage in E32005 is killzone 2. And that was what they are aiming for. It already looks better than any xbox game and it wont be done for like half a year. And what PS3 game commercials are showing rendered cut-scenes? Every game i have seen on commercials look exacly like the game. Stop judging what games look like by going on youtube. Fuck you dumb. I guess youve never heard of uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, UT3, Lair(graphics wise), Heavenly sword. They look as good or better than any 360 game. Mabye you should actually play a PS3 game before you judge them.
People like you really piss me off.

what it boils down to is preference, what console your friends own (if you want to play them multiplayer or on line) and what you want it for… the wii is simple and easy to play (proof that gameplay is more important than tech specs, the XBox has a nicer online interface and is better to find friends online and also acts as a media center extender and the PS3 has some good titles and a blu ray player… however as for the hd vs blueray, Both will be obsolete before long as HD movies go the same way as music did with online streaming and download.. Personally I dont think the media capacity in terms of blueray or HD will be fully utilised untill the next generation of consoles is released. And if you really want a high end gaming experience just buy a good spec PC, they have been ‘High Def’ for years… and can play anything any of the consoles can (can even use a wii remote on a pc… search the net and you’ll find loads of articles on it) as for the whole ‘mine is better than yours’, well that depends on what you want to use he system for!… anyway, who cares who wins the console wars, all systems have/will have good games released, all will have pro’s and cons all are ultimately disposable tech in the same way a cell phone is… just chill and enjoy your consoles, if you need to vent have a bash at COD 4… I prefer XBOX 360, but the PS3 looks good, was a little to expensive at realease and the UK spec got neutered yet was more expensive than everwhere else on the planet that had better specs so decided to stick with the xbox franchise. The PS one was excellent in its time, the XBOX was better than the PS2 in my opinion and the PS3 is technically superior to the 360… i just pref. the 360 coz of the media center and online movies

Your lack of writing ability is only surpassed by your ignorance and inability to understand basic reason and logic, never mind the notion of supporting arguments with *evidence*.

I would accuse you of being paid by Sony, but frankly you seem too stupid.

This guy is clearly a fanboy.
I have owned all 3 systems, my brother and sister both have 360′s for their apartment and there have been no RRoD’s on any of us but we always go on the xbox when we get together even though they dont have the ps3 or wii’s to go on at their place… its because 360′s are simply better.

If your realy fussed about graphics, get a PC. They have been making games for a good 3 or 4 years that vastly surpassed all consoles (especially the wii, sorry to say) but I believe its the microsoft own software and support for developers that lets the development for 360 games go faster, lag less, have a massively more reliable online experiance and the games that are brought out are of a higher spec.
PS3′s lack of support forces its fans to say that there is more graphics power to get out of the box but they will never get it without the dev tools.

Xbox 360 wins, wii is next, ps3 is throwing gadgets to try to get anyone to buy it at all.

its ok 360 fanboys we understand why you are upset

Gran Turismo Is Something I’ve Been Waiting For On The PS3 and also the “Home” System. I enjoyed Forza on the 360 for sometime it felt more realistic then most racing games like the wheels locking up under heavy breaking with assists off etc, Wasn’t to impressed by the dodgy looking paintwork on forza very ott unlike Turismo.

PS3 Gets hot but has fans capable of keeping it quiet and working unlike the 5 360′s I’ve owned. ( I just like xbox 360 and not to sure why ).

Then there was .skate on 360 which kept me entertained for hours then on the ps3 it lagged out and stuttered and eventually crashed.

I think there would be more interest in building games for the ps3 if the developers knew that more households owned one. But I think for me originally the price put me off the PS3 as with most people.

So More PS3s Sold = More Cash For Developers = Better Gaming System.

Chris

@Deviclry2k6

Take a breath dude. I have never seen an Xbox 360 game with perfect background solidity and excellent draw distances like the PS3 can produce. Stats don’t count for shit to me, performance of the console and fun gaming do though. Just admit it – MS should have gotten it right the first time around and included a HD DVD player in there. As it happens, I am now selling all my HD DVD’s and my clunky HD DVD player – I would advise anyone else to do the same as the format will fall now WB’s have pledged their allegiance to Blu Ray.

They will never back down outa spite. (I rule in favour of 360, ps3 isnt even considered by me) but no matter wat u think. When was the last time anybody heard of Microsoft pulling out of a market. They dont regardless of how well the product is doin.zune 1 failed awfully, so in comes zune 2, a normal company would have just bowed down to apple.xbox 1 failed so they made 360. worst comes to worst and it fails, den out will come a new xbox that will destroy the future minded vision of the ps3, if u take them as rwo products xbox 360 and ps3 theres alot of wat is best(personally i think 360), but if you think wat companies are behind them, you dont need to think twice to know whos more stubborn and hyas the deeper pockets, to outdo the other

note also that zune 2 is doin well and xbox 360 is also doin well, the second attempts usually work well, sam ewit any windows , u wait til service pack 2

I migh sound stupid for saying this but…Sony fanbois should marry Blu ray and get it over with. I probably made my self stupid for sayin that but i was thinking about it all day.

@homey
“(i’t has 8 cores u dumbass)”
no it has 8 SPE’s and PPE. it’s like a normal CPU having 12 FPU’s only one CPU block. the SPE are not CPU core at all they are Synergistic Processing Elements capable of threading Floating point operations between each other. This is in fact a very impressive thing… if the PS3 was a scientific computer or a server. I will say this much (this might be a long shot)but most of you PS3 users use your console to play games and other media stuff(Images,music,video,web)…NOT scientific computation, or else “homey” would not have said some thing as stupid as “i’t has 8 cores u dumbass”. as for the PS3 being more powerfull that is a joke, and im not laughing. The original design of the PS3 was not even supposed to used a GPU, because it was going to have two of the Cell CPU processors. But when Sony saw the revolutionary ATI GPU in the Xbox 360 that was Custom designed for the Xbox 360, and was 1.5 years ahead of its time (since the PC didn’t see similar Unified Shader technology until January 30, 2007), then Sony was forced to removed one of the Cell CPUs in the PS3, and instead add a Nvidia GPU. But there was NOT time to custom design the GPU, so Sony was forced to included a four-year old generic GPU in the PS3. That is why people often point out the vast superiority of the Xbox 360 GPU. and to reapeat my sel again the GPU is waht gives a console Graphical superiority not he CPU.

And hey sense im on the subject lest talk memory.

When it comes to RAM, the Xbox 360 certainly DOES have fundamental advantages over the Playstation 3!

For example, the CPU of the PS3 can NEVER access more than 256MB of RAM at any point. The Xbox 360 CPU is free to access up to 512MB of RAM if there was a need. With the PS3, there are plenty of times when the CPU needs more than 256MB of RAM, and the Video-RAM of the PS3 is actually using less than 256MB of RAM, which means that if the PS3 had a Unified RAM environment–like the Xbox 360’s–then that unused Video-RAM could help the CPU, like it does on the Xbox 360. OBVIOUSLY, the Xbox 360 RAM design is much more flexible; it helps developers in ways that they enjoy working with.

Even though there have been allot of hardware problems(as much as the PS2 in it’s day) Microsoft did a better job in temrs of making a GAME CONSOLE. They did not howver do a good job coolling th Xbox 360 if you ever look inside the console you would see what i mean.

I feal like a broken record saying this. The reason why Microsoft never integrated the HD DVD drive into the Xbox 360 was cost.Manufacturing cost, Repair cost (Exp PS3), End user cost. If an HD DVD drive was installed in the console they would have had a PS3 price tag at launch and an even more laughable 1year after $400 dollar price tag. And again even if every Studio in switch to blu ray it would not change the fact that you can download HD movies on your PC and stream them to your Xbxo360 (like me). And im not shure if you all know this but you can download movies in HD on Xbox Live, for about $3 you can download and re-download the movie and not have to pay for it. you can also download the SD version of the movie for free, if you happen to go to a freinds house who doesn’t have HD.

Ok all you people, including myself are just waisting your time arguing over something this ignorant. First off people will play what they like is PS3 or the 360 the bester system… who really gives a rats arse. I prefer the 360 over the PS3, and some of you prefer the PS3 thats your choice and no matter how much you pull numbers out of your butt to make you look smart its not going to change people opinion on what they enjoy playing.

And a simple fact for a “gaming system” the PS3 was overpriced. And if you want to get a all in one then its cheaper to buy a PS3, but dont try to “break it down” to make the PS3 cheaper, because some people simply want a machine to play games on.

HD-dvd war engineered to promote use of downloadable media by microsoft. Hence not fully incorporating an HD-DVD drive in every xbox. If they were serious, they would have done this.

Think how good the xbox would have been with an HD-DVD drive with the extra space if it can match, at least, the PS3 graphically with COD4 with plain old DL-DVD.

By the time ps3 is hitting its stride, i would not be surprised if the next generation of xbox’s were out, centred around downloadable media.

Unless SONY pull their finger out and change their marketing plan soon, as evidenced by their recent shifts with respects to multiple priced, specced, models, rumble pads, etc. the “console war will be over before it has begun.

Why is it that everytime this website pops up in on google news it’s headline is total nonsense. I would like to say that it was Sony who said that the PS2 would have Toy Story-like graphics. HA.
but other than that, Drakes looked as good as a 360 exclusive but any better. And as for Lair. . . it wasn’t that nobody could adjust for the controls, it was that the controls were absolute crap and many parts of the game were repetetive and BORING. It was a waste of my money indeed. I’m not a fanboy. I don’t even own an xbox or an xbox 360. I currently have a PS3 and no I do not have PSN or the internet for that matter. I wouldn’t even have a PS3 if it wasn’t given to me as a birthday gift. I do have drakes and Lair as well as utIII, however, I have to say that UTIII sucks for the PS3, it is far too slow and no were near as good as the PC version. although I don’t like the PC version either the only differences between the last 2 UT games are mostly cosmetic. I still play the original and 2004 from time to time but I sold III to my neighbor. I’ll say that Drakes was fun for a while but I have already beaten it and the I think that the games is repetetive and boring just like lair. and heavenly sword was a crapshoot. Sure it has it’s fun moments, until you realize that it is nothing more than a boring hack n slash.
That said, I will hold my breath on the winner of 08′ because I don’t really care. I will save up and buy a 360 by next June and a Wii(if I can find one) by December and have a complete collection of U.S. consoles from the Magnavox Odyssee up to now(now being the end of the year.)

Overpriced? The 40 gig PS3 is $50 cheaper than the XBOX 360 elite, and the 80 gig PS3 is $50 more expensive. This does not include the $100 wireless adapter. And if you want HDMI support you either have to buy the elite, or the other models plus an HDMI add on.

failure rate xbox 360 = 15 times failure rate of PS3

enough said

@Deviclry2k6
Ok. So you know what you’re talking about. You still have not explained to me why it is that only a year after it’s release that the PS3 has gaming graphics which are superior to the Xbox 360 i.e perfect draw distances, no fragmentation or “jaggies” in it’s exclusives i.e. Ratchet and Clank and Unchartered. It is my personal belief that non exclusive games that come out on both consoles look “sharper” on the PS3 aswell i.e. Colin Mcrae Dirt, Assassins Creed, etc… I have had both consoles since their respective release dates – tried and tested mate. Also – the tree test! Yes the tree test – you might laugh but this is my own subjective test to gauge the power of a console. Look at the trees in Unchartered – amazing! No jaggies or roughness. If the memory within the PS3 is so poor then how can so many things be going on in a game including the superior use of lighting and character animation, wind and water effects all interacting with each other to create a believable environment? Now take the trees from PGR4 – great game but crap trees with no real defenition and harsh colours. The PS3 seems to be the only console here which can present more true to life images. Let’s talk results not jargon.
BTW I am still a 360 “fan”, I am just coming to the realisation that for me the PS3 will emerge as the better performance machine, though admittedly at the moment it does’nt have enough games and has a few framerate issues.

since when has trees ever made a game more playable or fun?

They don’t but they make the more presentable and the environments more realistic therefore making the game more immersive and believable, contributing to the overall quality of the game. Trees are just one example I used – it could have been any other aesthetic.

They don’t but they make the game more presentable and the environments more realistic therefore making the game more immersive and believable, contributing to the overall quality of the game. Trees are just one example I used – it could have been any other aesthetic.

okay i admit, i love great looking environments but not at the expense of gameplay and framerates

Who said anyhthing about the sacrifice of gameplay?? Gameplay is the main reason I am in support of Sony’s exclusives both current and forthcoming. Framerate is one minor issue if you have that keen an eye you can spot, but in the case of Unchartered and Ratchet and Clank there is no impact on gameplay and fun-actor whatsoever. I’m sure the framerate issue will dissapear in time.

i hope so, the ps3 is a powerfull machine and there is no reason for low framerates (a actually sold need for speed pro street because of that) Call of duty 4 has no problem whatsoever, same goes for motorstorm and resistance.. but this year should be a great improvement compared to 2007

@Timothy Tripp

“I’m shocked that Sony (who is normally very proprietary minded) allows this and Microsoft (who is supposed to be standards driven) does not.”

Sorry dude, I got a good laugh at that one. Microsoft is the ANTI standards body. Nothing they do is standards driven. Internet Explorer is so far from W3C standards it’s not even funny. When a good standard emerges they try to tank it with their own propriatry BS(java vs .net for example). Do I need to get into the laundry list of anti-trust lawsuits they’ve been in and lost over the last decade.

I think you meant they use more off the self components, that would be more accurate as well.

I also love how everybody supposedly has all the systems or at least both the 360 and PS3 so they can sound like they are unbiased. My @$$ all of you who claim you have both do, you are so full of it. You just want to make people believe you have a significant amount of time on both and sound like an expert or something.

When I hear:
I have both and I like 360 by far the best

To me that translates into:
I only have the 360 and have played a PS3 at a friends house or Best Buy a few times(and I’m a big fat looser)

Why would anyone who has both want to lie about that?? Like I said in my previous posts I bought both on launch dates. I’m not bragging about it like you seem to think, neither is anyone else. If you earn enough money to invest in both then what’s the problem? You don’t and have a problem with anyone who does obviously.

@MDK

You didn’t buy both consoles at launch. The chances of that are slim, so please stop making up tall tales. There is no way you could have afforded that. I doubt you were able to miss work either. How would you help your mother pay for your cell phone bill? Enough of the B.S. son.

@ tarince

please calm down before you crap yourself!
Just because you still live with your parents doesn’t mean everyone else does.

@nitro

Huh?!? What son? Did daddy say you could talk? Shut your mouf and go to your room before I whip your ass!

@Eric

I don’t normally get involved in flame wars, but I couldn’t just let this one slip by without a response… I actually do own both (and a Wii, and they replaced a PS2, XBox and Gamecube). Not everyone is a complete fanboy, and in fact there is a lot to like about the PS3 (most notably that it’s a LOT quieter!) even though the games on the 360 have been a LOT more impressive so far, at least to me. I buy the different systems because I like games enough to not miss any good exclusives (I bought the Wii for Zelda and Mario Galaxy, I bought the PS3 for Little Big Planet and Home). Of the three systems, only the PS3 hasn’t delivered on the two big games I bought it for when they said they were going to (Christmas 2007), and now they’re saying it might be October of 2008 before EITHER of those titles come out, which has pissed me off a little at Sony so I tend to bash them a little.

As for standards, you’re absolutely right about IE, but I don’t think you could honestly say that Microsoft hasn’t embraced standards more readily than Sony (who STILL won’t let the memory stick die!) – you’re comparing IE to Firefox basically, where a better comparison would be a Sony browser for Windows which doesn’t exist but you can bet if it did would be a lot less standards complient than IE… but hey, a lot of people just live to bash Microsoft so nothing I say will convince you otherwise.

I’m just glad a non-Japanese player has so successfully broken into the market that was in a strangle-hold by Japanese companies. I don’t want Microsoft to dominate the games market, but if they weren’t there PSN would not be anywhere near as good as it is or even exist at all.

All that said, I’m not terribly excited about Microsoft’s 2008 exclusives so far… Halo Wars looks good and Fable 2 looks very good, but they better announce some new exclusives soon or Sony will catch all they excitement this year with Little Big Planet especially.

haha, its hilerious to watch people like you rant about nonsense!! shame

@ Tarince
Once again – I have no reason to lie about this. You don’t even know me, but by the sounds of it I’m glad about that. Now then let me break it down.
1st – I’m not your son.
2nd – I do not live with my parents (like you)
3rd – I pay for my own cell phone bill (unlike you)
4th – I booked the time off work to buy the consoles on release day – my employers did not have an issue with that.
5th – I have purchased games off the playstation network, including fLOw and Wip3out (PS1 game) with my own hard cash and have been a member of the PSN since release.
6th – I have been a member of Xbox Live since release and have bought many games off the Live Marketplace including Streetfighter II, Pinball FX, Geometry Wars, Bejeweled etc…
Not everyone on this forum is a 11 years old and lives with their parents (if you do that’s ok but just don’t go around accusing people of being a liar because you can’t comprehend the situation).

Josh, as Sean Connery says on Jeopardy. Suck it. Suck it long and suck it hard. No Xbox 360 Ultimate at CES. Don’t ever become a stock predictor. So much for your “Wait till my daddy gets home” You lose now go throw your worthless ass under a bus. The world is going Bluray. Suddenly every dev is saying all complications of PS3 development is now gone. Welcome to next gen. Jump out and play beyond.

GPU arguments again? Worthless. How about hardware physics arguments. You can’t touch that. And don’t tell me you can do physics with a GPU when no PC – even those with a hell of a lot more ram for video – is doing physics on the GPU. The PS3 is able to do both software based physics – like HAVOK and hardware physics – like Aegia.

Enjoy your limited games on the 360. They were fun, I enjoyed them but even PGR4 had to cut night cycles due to disc space. Mass Effect? Gotta love those frame rates. What a butt ugly game and that damn Mako is a ridiculous death machine. What vehicle drives like that? No it is crushing time for you and your worthless ilk. Welcome to next gen. Play beyond. Now go play beyond the side walk in the heaviest traffic you can find.

aint it about time you started doing research before you start chatting shit

MORGANFELL

“And don’t tell me you can do physics with a GPU when no PC – even those with a hell of a lot more ram for video”

YES YOU CAN

@killermongoo5e

Your such a dumb arse, on PC the physics are processed by the CPU which then send instructions to the GPU. The GPU`s job is the colour, shade, texture, lighting, draw etc. NOT PHYSICS !!! FOOL !!!

Have a look on the internet retard for one the Havoc physics engine has been designed to use the free time on the GPU to do the physics also Nvidia have been doing this for a while now too in SLI setups

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6136639.html?print=1

Like i said do some research first

dude, i have owned both, and xbox 360 to me is easyily playing second fiddle to the ps3, ps3 is just sublime, it is sweet as hell, i am in love with my ps3 lol, and these exclusives coming up like heavy rain and infamous (which is out and is awesome) are only confirming it, the controller is better, the design is better and the whole system is simply better, i no like everybody sum1 who has owned the 360 and loves it, funny thing is when we argue he cant think of much wrong to point out, for me its the red ring of death and the controlls that were made for the wwe wrestler big show, its horrible, i sold mine after 2 weeks, well actually i swapped it with a mate for a brand new pc, lol yh it was a deal that worked well more on my side, and guess what, HE HAS NOW SOLD IT hahahhaaa, 360 bye bye, ps3 you have a bright future, microsoft shud stick to making there software and hell even that crashed all the time

I have Oblivion for ps3 and yes xbox360 has more DLC but what we have and what you have the ps3 version looks better and way WAY less loading screens espescially out in the wild there are NO loading “screens” you may get “loading area” for about 2 or 3 seconds and thats it.