Ron Paul says: immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq, are you joking?
Filed under: News | By: Daz
Posted on: November 19, 2007 | 44 Comments
Ron Paul is all for troop withdrawal from Iraq along with most other people but as an ex troop who has served in Iraq I really cannot see this happening, all the troops are doing out there is peace-keeping and training the Iraqi forces to not much success.
To my experiences all that was happening were inter-tribal fights and I.E.D explosions which in some cases cause fatality to a battle group, all our troops in Iraq are a target to violence.
Although most Iraqi personnel are all for the troops in Iraq a small minority are not, this is what you don’t see on the news.
Although I was in a troubled area of Iraq I am disgusted with all the pictures you see on the news and in the papers where troops are walking the streets in a relaxed state playing with the locals! It is not like that whatsoever, we always have to be alert and in full fighting order at all times, this does indicate to me that our job out there is far from over.
Although Ron Paul wants to see all troops withdrawn I really cannot see a total withdrawal for a number of years, due to the amount of violence in the country.
In my personal opinion I think there is going to be a military presents presence in Iraq for a number of years just like Northern Ireland.
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Yo jo shmokemz,
It’s not helping the author gain understanding or bring him over to RP to call him a moron. It demonstrates intellectual laziness to offer no substantive content and resort to name-calling. In so-doing you lower yourself and rob your point of its impact. The world needs to learn what you know, and it needs you to deliver it in a way it can digest.
To the author - This comes to a matter of rights. No one in any country wants a foreign occupying force. If we are to be a nation of free, self-determining people, we own the same to other nations, just as on the individual level. We have no right to maintain a military presence in any foreign country any more than they would have a right to be here; to say otherwise is purely arrogant, self-serving hypocrisy. Iraqi’s need to work it out on their own - their culture is far far more ancient than ours, and very proud - we cannot hope to help with forceful, intervention.
As for the overall geopolitical picture: things are not at all as they seem. Watch the Google videos “The Money Masters” and “Money as Debt” if you want to understand the big picture of why we are building an an Empire - something abhorrent to every American principle - in Iraq. Another great one is “America: Freedom to Fascism.”
You are a soldier, so you must be a patriot. These films will show you why Ron Paul is so vitally important to the survival of freedom in America as a reality and not merely an empty slogan.
Best wishes.
Eric
Ok after a breather I can speak a little. It is possible that this writer is about to see the light. He sounds young and confused about what is going on. What I think he wanted to say is what Ron Paul has been saying all along. If the diagnosis is wrong, change the treatment. Don’t keep doing the same thing(something like that anyway).
You kids! All this bickering and all we need is the truth.
The Iraqi’s will never stop fighting those who occuy their land.
This is not Japan or Germany we’re dealing with, and besides, what are we doing over their anyway?
Is it such a problem to follow the constitution?
I didnt really see any reason provided in that article for why the Constitution of the United States of America, the American people, and/or the American homeland would be THREATENED- in any way at all- by us leaving Iraq.
To say nothing of the fact that we have LONG since completed our stated mission objectives in Iraq…Anyone else remember this?:
1- DISARM Saddam
2- DISMANTLE his regime
3- BRING SADDAM TO JUSTICE
Unless we add “install puppet government and effectively annexe Iraq,” I’d say we’ve been done over there for a long time now…right about when we handed Saddam over to his people, in fact. I didnt realize it was the job of our military and the sworn oath of our servicemen and women to spread democracy around the world…I thought it was “defend the United States of America and its Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.”
Im someone who supported removing Saddam Hussein, and defended Bush’s ramp-up to doing so- our actions since we captured Saddam in my mind prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that Saddam was never the real reason and the need to take resolute action against our most outspoken and avowed enemy of the last 20 years took a distant backseat in priority to establishing a strategic and indefinite military presence in a country that has not attacked us and a region that resents our presence in the first place because of this exact policy.
Its truly amazing that so many people believe we cant be truly secure without being permanently stationed in 130 of the 190 countries on this planet and perpetually holding a gun/our missiles to nations’ heads in those regions.
Its time to snap out of that pipe dream and realize that the rest of the world deeply resents that policy as well they should- and that America is safe enough when we mind our own business militarily until we are truly threatened first by another nation.
Yeah, let’s leave lots of military “presents” for
Iraq for Christmas. I don’t mind giving 1% of
the US GDP for Iraq. After all, it’s not our money, it’s the government’s. America will always be the richest country and have lots of money, unlike every empire in history.
I’m disappointed with Daz, here is a self proclaimed military person who fought in Iraq but the Constitution is under attack right here at home, instead of addressing the real issue that faces this country Daz want to get into policing the world and let the US go bust.
I’m sorry, I support the troops but at some point the troops need to ask simply, “Is the Constitution under attack” and do you have a responsibility to defend and protect it, is so to what ends.
Our Military is all over the world, “We the people” can only do whats next best and elect Ron Paul to reinstate the rule of law and get away from this rule of man with King George.
Quite simply, allied forces on the ground mean violence. They are committed to attacking YOU, not the Iraqi people. They want American boots off their holy land.
Sure, sectarian violence will continue, but this is the same as it always was and will be. Islam must solve these problems, as is their custom.
I am a veteran and support the total and immediate withdrawl of all troops around the globe. Why? Because staying in foreign lands to include the ME, Asia, and Europe without declared wars is not defending the homeland in time of war as constitutionally approved, it is policing the world and doing a poor job of it.
Our troops and military are outstanding in what they do, it is the civilian leadership that is faulty and voting for Congressman Dr. Ron Paul is a smart way to correct that leadership failure and return to our constitutional roots.
AQ could never have killed thousands of US troops and wounding tens of thousands more if the US Military were given the rightfull order to capture/kill the attackers of 9/11 where ever they may be hiding and not relying on failed dictator states in the name of diplomacy to serve us justice. I did not serve to do nation-building.
Delete the midset of “must stay” to achieve stability in Iraq or anywhere. Let them kill each other if they want to, let Iran get the bomb if they can, let them pound sand in saying the West is evil. Let’s come home and rebuild our nation, our liberty, our freedoms; and let the rest of the world see our example. No nation state is powerfull enough to attack us. I suspect none will try anytime soon. The few rogue whack-jobs who do try can be stopped if we are smart about it. Unsecure borders with tens of millions sneaking accross is not being smart.
We will still help others when tragedy strikes (earthquakes, tsunami, meteor strikes…), still trade with nations that wish to trade with us, but until then we should keep our troops home until we have a clear mission for them, rebuild our manufacturing base, secure our own borders, and restore our integrity by electing Ron Paul.
There will NEVER be peace there. It’s a civil war. We have no business there and morally or otherwise. T
There will NEVER be peace there. It’s a civil war. We have no business there and morally or otherwise. T