Andrew Meyer Supports Ron Paul: Your Thoughts on Tasered Student?
Filed under: News, Politics | By: Ryan
Posted on: September 20, 2007 | 60 Comments
You may have read recently of the unfortunate student, Andrew Mayer, who was tasered at a recent John Kerry event. Reports are claiming that the Florida student was a Ron Paul supporter, which is quite intriguing in that both have been stopped from broadcasting their opinions through the media in some way.
I feel as though people should be allowed to voice their opinions and support whomsoever they wish as long as it’s non-offensive.
As the student was being arrested, he yelled, “There are people that know I’m here. You can’t do things like that.”
“Oh my God. You’re giving me to the government. They’re giving me to the government. They’re giving me to the government.”
He then asked, “Can I get my camera back please?” That’s right. Andrew Meyer had a cameraman to film and upload his huge moment onto YouTube.
While reading through the myriad of comments about the incident many people across the web agree in saying that his speech was being hidden or “shut down” - “just like Ron Paul.”
Andrew Meyer and Ron Paul gain popularity successfully on the Internet from those that believe that America is deteriorating, especially with the healthcare crisis, economic crisis regarding mortgages and loans and also due to the falling dollar. Many believe that the elections are all a big hoax and that they’re fixed, with the media allegedly against them.
What do you think of Dr Paul and the tasered student? Are Ron Paul and Andrew Meyer similar in these respects?
Let’s hope the 71-year old congressman doesn’t get tasered any time soon.
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“I feel as though people should be allowed to voice their opinions and support whomsoever they wish as long as it’s non-offensive.”
Exactly. As long as it is a nice and boring opinion that is non-offensive - I wouldn’t want my right not to be offended oppressed, afterall.
No matter how the media tries to play this down. The truth is that we would never of had this happen 20 and 40 years ago. The police would of handled it different. Its sad to see our freedoms slip away just as Kerry’s response. A lot of the blame is focused on the UPD. But someone hired them. Someone set up the protocol that is used. Its the laws of the land that dictate how and when and to what degree police action is taken.
If Meyer mannerisms or topic would of been different I wonder if the police action would have been different.
The point I want to make is that he simply was not being Politically Correct.
Therefore he was removed. Since when can we not express our likes and dislikes to public officials? They are there to represent us. True? If one has Passion at a Football game…..raise there voice but does not threaten anyone. They don’t get drug out of the game.
When the Democrat’s or Republicans get together and bash the other. They do it with passion and are not removed from their event. So whether or not Meyer did this as a public stunt. I don’t care. What I do care about is how many men have died on a battle field somewhere from overseas to here in our own states. From today to the our own Revolution. People have fought and died to save our freedom. Mr. Meyers freedom was trampled on. I wonder if I will see this in my own life. I hope and pray not.
I thank all of you for speaking up that see something wrong with this. Thank you for helping defend our Freedom.
Mr. Meyer is a young self-promoter who asked rude, yet appropriately provocative, questions in a public forum on public land, and was suppressed too soon. Kerry stated he would have answered Meyer’s questions, and actually started to (for whatever good that might have done). Freedom of speech was in play here. But at some point, one man’s expression of free speech becomes other men’s obstruction of free speech. Mr. Meyer was probably headed past this point (he wasn’t interested in waiting for any answers to his good questions), but he was cut short. It was a judgment call by the event organizers. I think it was premature, but it was theirs to make.
However, once informed that he was under arrest, he should have sought redress in court. All the consequences he suffered while resisting arrest are on his own head. The officers delivered a measured escalation of force until Mr. Meyer consented to be cuffed and lead away. Should officers simply abort any arrest where the subject contends that he “hasn’t done anything”? Those issues are handled in court, not at the scene.
In contrast, Dr. Paul is an elder statesman who civilly poses his challenges, consistently over decades of service.
The two may be similar in the fact that both oppose an abusive state, but they are opposites in approach, mostly due to age-appropriate demeanor.
I cringe when Mr. Meyer supports Dr. Paul in much the same way as I cringe when I hear of support for Dr. Paul by any other narrow or shallow faction. Dr. Paul’s message is a considered, consistent, thoughtful criticism of statism and its ill effects. Mr. Meyer’s experience at the hands of the state was eminently avoidable, and his chosen style detracted from his message.
Well said observer. I wish I could do it so well.
Definitely a Ronulan if you ask me.
Dear Elizabeth, It was suggested to me that Kerry’s secret service men, or body guards, gave the police a signal (some of the police were wearing headphones) to move in and remove Meyers. I have been to many lectures and speaches and I have never seen so many police standing at a podium before. They indeed were planted to remove anyone who asked Kerry questions he did not want to answer. The media should step up to the plate and ask Kerry the same questions: Why did you conceed the election, KNOWING the public was actively moving to ban electronic voting machines, which were everywhere in Ohio, and in less than 24 hours? Why was there no challenge? The Democrats’ campaign in 2004 was “Anyone but Bush.” The Democrats attacked Ralph Nader in 17 states with 22 law suits to prevent him from ballot access fearing he would “spoil” the election (as if Nader was a Democrat), the Democrats worked to insure Nader was not on the ballot, not able to challenge the election, and the result: Kerry conceeded in less than 24 hours to Bush.
Unlike many long time Ron Paul supporters, the only party I joined was the Libertarian Party, which I abandoned when Ron Paul ran for office as his anti-choice pro-God stand was too GOP for me and divided the Libertarian Party (making the same mistake as Goldwater, inviting the religious right into the party, it’s like inviting Al Qauda into the GOP). Goldwater gave us the neocons, and having been former Democrats, the Democrats continue to support the Neocons, essentially giving the USA one party with two faces. No ownder the majority of Amerians don’t vote.
To Observer:
Notice several assumptions you have made:
1. There was a legitimate cause to arrest the man.
2. The man was informed he was under arrest
3. Mr Meyer reaction to being grabbed while speaking and without warning was an inappropriate reaction.
4. The use of taser was justified in the circumstances.
I put it to you, that your assumptions are questionable.
5. Mr Meyer was not interested in the responses.
6. Judgement call was made.
7. Judgement call was made by event organisers.
8. One man using his free speech alone, can somehow stop another man using his free speech.
Observer, it was nice tearing your argument apart.
Have a nice day.