Ron Paul For US President: Thats what Bob Novak Wants

I agree with Novak. It confuses me that the mainstream republicans and media paint Ron Paul’s ideas as fringe. Dr. Paul speaks clearly for small federal government, low taxes, free trade, strong military, rule of law, sanctity of life and non-interventionism. What’s there not to embrace? I will vote for him in the Republican primary.

Paul’s ideas are a return to Goldwater conservatism. A Paul presidency would be a great boon for America.

Best,

James

This race for the GOP Nomination is vastly over. Rudy Giuliani has won. Latest polls have him at 37% way above the pack (next finisher is Fred Thompson with 14%). Very latest polls out of NH and Iowa have Giuliani inching ahead.

It’s time for all the also-rans to seriously think about dropping out. Thankfully, Jim Gilmore already has. Tancredo has suspended his campaign. Tommy Thompson is on the verg of dropping out.

Ron Paul should be next, along with Huckabee and Brownback.

This is a race for Giuliani, and to a lesser extent Romney and Fred Thompson. All the others are just wasting our time, and worse weakening us against our real enemy Hillary Clinton for the General Election.

There is no other candidate who expresses and understands Americans’ hunger for Constitutional FREEDOM like Dr. Ron Paul. He will get my donations of time and money now and my vote in 2008.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

1. Well done, Novak.
2. Ron Paul, he’s the Jefferson of our day.
3. Yes, both in 2008 and 2012, by massive, world-record breaking landslides.

Bob Novak is absolutely right!

Ron Paul’s ideas and stances are not ‘fringe’. They are traditional Republican and conservative views and stances. The problem comes with the whole ‘new conservative’ movement, which isn’t conservative at all. Many people follow the new conservatives, actually thinking they’re following conservatives.

What do you call someone who blames America for the attacks of 9/11, rather than the Islamic Terrorists and Al Qaeda?

And what do you call someone who allows himself to be used by the so-called 9/11 Truth Seekers movement?

I call that “fringe.”

Eric, I think most people here already know that you’re running against Ron Paul for his Texas Congressional seat, and you are always ranting crazily against the good Congressman. It’s obvious that thousands of people support Ron Paul vigorously, as he has won election to that post several times.

Dr. Paul treats everyone respectfully, thus his attention to answering the Truther group. It’s already common knowledge that the media put a “spin” on his debate response regarding 9/11.

What planet are you living on?

If “thousands of people” are supporting Ron Paul for President, than why isn’t that reflected in the poll numbers?

Zogby – Ron Paul has fluctuated from 3% support back in March to 0% in June.

ABC/Washington Post – Consistently 1 to 2%.

Ron Paul fanatics love to cite all these internet/YouTube polls. How about addressing the issue of national polling firms for once?

Ron Paul never blamed America for anything. Please do yourself a favor and go to YouTube and watch the debate again, and this time listen to what he says. He blamed a failed foreign policy, he blamed a lack of foresight and clear ‘big picture’ thinking about what we do and how the rest of the world sees us.

Personally I think Ron Paul is the only real mainstream candidate. I don’t hear my friends talking about abortion or gays in the military or any of the other nonsense that both democrats and republicans constantly regurgitate. Real people are talking about what Ron Paul talks about… That should tell you something.

Dondero, for those who don’t know, is a war-mongering wife-swapper who has headed such campaigns as “Libertarians for Bush,” and perhaps even worse, “Libertarians for Lieberman.” Now he supports the anti-gun, pro-war, anti-civil liberties, big-government campaign of Rudy Giuliani…

Read all about it…

http://capitalistdove.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/eric-dondero-bashes-ron-paul-in-the-new-york-times/

You are correct. At least half-correct.

In Ron Paul’s first response to the question, he gave a good philosophically non-interventionist response. No problem with that. That’s his view. I disagree with it. Fine by me.

No, the problem was with Wendoll Goller’s follow-up. Wendoll gave Ron Paul a softball. He gave him a complete opportunity to clarify his statement so as not to imply that America was to blame for the 9/11 attacks.

What did Ron Paul choose to do?

Go on a further tirade about side issues, and how “our interventions in the Middle East” were to blame for the attacks.

Shameful! Absolutely Shameful!!

It was not Ron Paul’s original response. It was the second that was the problem.

Eric, the polls are meaningless at this point and the night is still young, so to speak. Millions of people haven’t even heard his name yet, much less know his stance on any of the issues.

But that’s what the 24,000 strong meetup groups are working on, right now, as we speak. He will be heard, and when he is heard, he is supported, almost unanimously.

I guess it’s a FREEDOM thing…

Eric

Here is an article on the polls for you to consider:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/ostrowski/ostrowski84.html

Are you the same Eric Dondero who worked for Dr. Paul for 10 years? Why would you work so long for such a “fringe candidate?” Also, I have heard Dr. Paul state many times that he absolutely does not blame America. Our policy is flawed. The facts (confirmed by the CIA, Wolfowitz and common sense) are that when we build bases, bomb countries, invoke sanctions and behave in all sorts of other imperialistic ways, there are consequences. It drives the nut-cases in the middle east even more crazy and they attack us. Do you think it is wise to ignore that reality?

Also, your polling data is false. The latest AP/Ipsos poll has Giuliani at 21% which is less than the 25% garnered by the “other, none of the above is worth my vote” category. By the way Ron Paul was not included on that poll. By the way, Giuliani’s 21% is way down from the 37% he had in March. It is far from over. The more Americans hear and learn about Giuliani, the less we like him. Why else do you think he is dodging the debates?

Eric,

You are probably correct in that Rudy will eventually get the nomination. He has the more money and more support from his own party and the media. And with Rudy’s nomination is further proof how the GOP has lost its way. Rudy is a liberal in many aspects; abortion, gun control, big government spending and gay rights. The GOP has enough election issues in 08. Nominating Rudy will insure Hillary as our next President because he ailenates so much of the core conservatives that are the real ba$e of the GOP party.

I never left the republican party, it left me. Nominating a liberal like Rudy is further proof of this.

Yes, I am the same Eric Dondero that worked for Ron Paul for over 12 years. Here’s my RP resume’:

1987/88 – Peraonal Travel Aide/Advance Man, Ron Paul Libertarian for President (Ron Paul and I campaigned in over 40 states including Alaska for almost 2 years.)

1992 – Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for President, GOP Primary

1995/96 – Ron Paul for Congress Campaign Coordinator

1997-2003 – Senior District Aide, US Congressman Ron Paul )R-TX), Freeport, TX

Here’s a bit of news for you and other Ron Paul fans. He wasn’t “Anti-War non-interventionist” in the past. In fact, when he first ran for Congress in 1996 he was totally red, white and blue, Pro-Troops, Pro-Military. (Part of our District included areas close to a San Antonio Air Force Base and included hardcore Patriotic Conservative Victoria).

Ron was even a friend with Gov. Bush, and supported him for President in 2000, speaking for him at at least two fundraisers – Wharton and Corpus Christi. I was right there with him.

Today Ron Paul is Anti-War, cause he knows that the Liberal Media is stridently Anti-War. Thus, he can gain a huge amount of free publicity for his Gold Standard, “The Markets going to Crash” Economic viewpoints – what he really cares about in life.

It’s a pretty smart political calculation. What’s rather amusing is seeing how many of his fanatical supporters he’s fleeced.

So let’s test the accuracy of this loser Eric Dondero.

In the first days of 1995, just weeks after the Republican landslide, Paul traveled to Washington and, through DeLay, made contact with the Texas Republican delegation. He told them he could beat the Democratic incumbent Greg Laughlin in the reconfigured Gulf Coast district that now included his home. Republicans had their own ideas. In June 1995, Laughlin announced he would run in the next election as a Republican. Laughlin says he had discussed switching parties with Newt Gingrich, the next speaker, before the Republicans even took power. Paul suspects to this day that the Republicans wooed Laughlin to head off his candidacy. Whatever happened, it didn’t work. Paul challenged Laughlin in the primary.

“At first, we kind of blew him off,” recalls the longtime Texas political consultant Royal Masset. “ ‘Oh, there’s Ron Paul!’ But very quickly, we realized he was getting far more money than anybody.” Much of it came from out of state, from the free-market network Paul built up while far from Congress. His candidacy was a problem not just for Laughlin. It also threatened to halt the stream of prominent Democrats then switching parties — for what sane incumbent would switch if he couldn’t be assured the Republican nomination? The result was a heavily funded effort by the National Republican Congressional Committee to defeat Paul in the primary. The National Rifle Association made an independent expenditure against him. Former President George H.W. Bush, Gov. George W. Bush and both Republican senators endorsed Laughlin. Paul had only two prominent backers: the tax activist Steve Forbes and the pitcher Nolan Ryan, Paul’s constituent and old friend, who cut a number of ads for him. They were enough. Paul edged Laughlin in a runoff and won an equally narrow general election.

Republican opposition may not have made Paul distrust the party, but beating its network with his own homemade one revealed that he didn’t necessarily need the party either. Paul looks back on that race and sees something in common with his quixotic bid for the presidency. “I always think that if I do things like that and get clobbered, I can excuse myself,” he says.

http://raggedthots.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-paul-george-no-ringo.html

So Eric, “Ron was even a friend with Gov. Bush”, huh.

You are so full of shit your eyes are brown.

How come messages that point out that Eric “Judas” Dondero got FIRED by Ron Paul keep getting deleted?

You know everything you write above is pretty accurate until the very last couple sentences.

Ron Paul desperately needed the GOP after we beat Laughlin. As a matter of fact the general election proved to be much harder to win against Lefty Morris, than the primary. The Austin and Houston Liberal press savagely attacked Ron Paul, which gave Lefty and in.

You want specifics? Here it goes.

1. Tom DeLay did 3 huge fundraisers for Ron for the general: Lake Jackson, Victoria and Wharton.

2. Gov. Bush put the word out to the skeptical Houston GOP Big Money donors through Karl Rove to “back Ron Paul.” Magically, within days Ron was flooded with contributions from mainline Republicans.

3. Kay Baily Hutchison did a “Cessna swing” for Ron Paul in the District visiting 3 different cities.

4. Cong. Henry Bonilla did about 3 or 4 events for Ron, including appearing at one of his BBQs.

5. Dick Armey sent out a fundraising letter for Ron to his list.

Ron won 51% to 47.5% against Lefty. I dare say we would have never made it, if it were not for the outpouring of mainline GOP support.

Many Republicans, most certainly uppity Conservative Victoria Republicans (former Laughlin supporters), were extremely cynical about Ron Paul. If Bush had not put out the word to back Ron Paul, they would have never voted for him. And we would have lost to Lefty Morris probably with a hefty margin of loss.

http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2007/05/dwsuwf-reader-eric-dondero-running.html

Interesting link about Eric Dondero. I hope you don’t kiss your Mom with that dirty mouth.

Ron Paul has a good chance of winning.

Ron Paul is 1st on YouTube, Meetup, MySpace, Technorati, Alexa, Google, etc. The old media is just too slow to realize what is happening.

Ron Paul places 1st or 2nd in every straw poll, debate, and active participation survey.

Dr. Ron Paul has the most contributions from U.S. military personnel and veterans above all other candidates. So support the troops and vote Ron Paul!

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were doing about the same in the ‘Scientific Polls’ at this stage in their elections. ‘Scientific Polls’ at this stage only measure name recognition. Over the next six months Ron Paul will gain name recognition. Most people who learn about Ron Paul become major supporters.

70% of Americans want us out of Iraq and want change.

Ron Paul is only republican candidate against the war.

Ron Paul only needs about 30% vote from republicans sick of the war and abuse of powers to win in republican primaries.

Dr. Ron Paul is the man of integrity and courage that America needs at this time.

We are making history — Vote Ron Paul!

Visit YouTube and search Ron Paul to learn more…

Join the Revolution — Restore the Republic — Save the Constitution!

Ron Paul VOTED AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR. He has made innumerable speeches on the house floor and has written innumerable articles describing his position on these unconstitutional wars. He was pro-military? He was “totally red, white and blue, Pro-Troops, Pro-Military”? Good for him. It is my understanding that he still is “red, white and blue, Pro-Troops, Pro-Military”. That’s why he wants to save our troops and do all he can to get them out of Iraq which is an entanglement without a good definition of victory.

Eric, you are a funny guy. “I dare say WE would have never made it, if it were not for the outpouring of mainline GOP support.”

WE? You mean Ron Paul. You didn’t win anything.

The funniest part though, is WE are now doing what you did. WE will help Ron Paul win the Presidency. WE will help him defy the odds. And unlike you, WE will not try to take the credit away from Ron and his message.

YOU are the Laughlin/Morris who will be sitting at home wondering how the hell WE beat you.

Remember laughing at them? WE will be doing the same towards YOU.

Hi Eric,

I am a lifelong republican. I currently hold a CIB and a PH. I have been a business owner. I currently work for the Federal government.

For me, and everyone else I know the War on Terror is not the number one issue.

Immigration is not the number one issue.

Socialist health care is not the number one issue.

The color or lack of Paris Hilton’s panties are not the number one issue.

The number one issue is …..

Our nations unstable, debt based, fraudlent monetary system.

That system has removed from the people their fiscal power to restrict the size and power of our absurdly huge Federal government.

As you well know, the good Dr. NO is the only candidate that even mentions this as an issue.

Your own statements confirm this.

“Gold Standard, “The Markets going to Crash” Economic viewpoints – what he really cares about in life.”

So your rabid desire to marginalize your former employer stands as proof to me that you are in effect a journalistic prostitute. Eager to perform any act for the Huge money party pimps that rule the media and our government.

This week alone I have distributed close to 500 flyers in the good doctors name. I printed those flyers myself, at no cost to Dr. Paul’s campaign.

Of the 400+ families that I have spoken to THIS WEEK, 75% were interested and vowed to gather further information about Dr. Pauls campaign, and our nations fraudlent monetary system.

The public’s interest in Dr. Paul spans all “demographic” lines. Republican, Democrat, Old, Young, Rich, Poor.

There are 72 people in our meetup group. More than 80% of our membership are doing the exact same thing I am, and are seeing the exact same results that I am.

Reconcile that little tidbit with the “scientific polls”.

People ……

DO NOT LET SOME AGENCY SPOON FEED YOU AN OPINION,

READ,

EDUCATE YOURSELVES,

THINK FOR YOURSELVES,

VOTE,

Thank you for your time. Sincerely

Lost_in_Samoa

Hmmn? That explains why in the Zogby poll Ron was at 3% after he announced in March, and in June he was at 0%.

Still hovering at 1 to 2% in all other national polls.

Here’s a little lesson for you in political campaigning. Usually candidates like to go up in polls, not stay where they are at, or even drop, in them.

6 months now. Actually 8, if you count January, when Ron was an unannounced Exploratory Comm. candidate.

6 to 8 months now and Ron Paul is at 1 to 2% in the national polls.

That’s not what I would call a “Surge”.

Very Good Eric,

Regurgitate the same old info again and again. Hammer the published “truth” in. Ridicule, marginalize, discount anyone who disputes that.

I also noticed how you conviently side-stepped discussing the main point in my response. Our national monetary system and its affects on our constitutional republic.

Well done.

You’ve grown into fairly accomplished member of the “Ministry of Truth”. Congratulations.

I and the other members of our little meetup group choose to disgregard the prepackaged, sound-byte enhanced “facts.”

The staged conflict between the Republican and Democratic parties no longer captivate me. Nor any of my friends.

We are more interested in the actions of the “Juggernaut” party. The huge money party.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate to address this issue at its root cause.

I have to go to Walmart and distribute flyers. Later this afternoon I will be calling Iowa residents and discussing Dr. Paul and monetary economics.

Tonight I might be able to visit this oasis of mis-information again. Perhaps we can continue our debate.

Thank you for your time. I do appreciate it. Sincerely

Lost_in_Samoa

Eric, I know you hate the Islamo-fascists. Who doesn’t, but why do you support the fascism of George W. Bush, Tom DeLay, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, et al? Is it because it is your flavor of fascism, if you’re going to be kept in line it better be by someone that is closer to your views? Iraq was not an Islamo-fascist hotbed of suicide bombing talent until we invaded. No one is calling Saddam a good guy but why was he our problem, and how has removing him helped us? If anything, we are worse off now than before and Ron Paul saw it coming. He not only knew the war was unconstitutional but the reasons for going were false or at least not solid. The fact that Bush “is not reallu concerned with Osama bin Laden” should say something about any candidate, Giuliani included, that follows the course set in motion by Bush and Cheney. Ron Paul is right about why they hate us, not justifying murder, but understanding why they hate us enough to commit murder. We need to act responsibly in our foreign policy. If you can’t see that, then just like Giuliani and all the other “stay the course” candidates, you do not deserve to serve your country in public office. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

By the way, you should change the name of your website, because your views are not mainstream nor are they at all libertarian.

*What do you think of Bob Novak’s comments on Ron Paul?*

I think it is possible that Bob Novak’s comments are more reflective of today’s politics than everybody is willing to admit. The people of America have seen corruption for too long and are no longer willing to endorse a “lesser of two evils” candidate. There is a huge shift going on now where people are no longer going exclusively to the mainstream media for their news, no longer trusting of the kind of double speak we hear from the big candidates.

Ron Paul is refreshing to so many people because he does not talk in sound bytes. (Unfortunately this can also be used to his detriment.) Watching the debates you can see that all of the other candidates answers seem well rehearsed and prepared. When the questions get heated, they simply divert attention away from the real issue and discuss something else.

*Who do you think will win the 2008 US Presidential Elections?*

It’s still too early to say IMO, there is a long way to go before the primaries. Let’s see how much the political dialogue shifts between now and then.

*Do you want Ron Paul to win?*

I want a candidate who is most willing to represent the interests of the American people and the Constitution. So far as I can tell Ron Paul is the most qualified candidate for the job. However if Ron Paul’s presence compelled more like minded people to run, I would have to consider their positions also.

Who doesn’t hate Islamo-Fascists?

Easy answer. All those who apologize for them, like Ron Paul and 90% of his followers.

Explain this to me please. Why is it that we never hear any concern at all from Ron Paul and Paulists for the rise of Islamo-Fascism worldwide? All we hear are apologies. Or, they just ignore this issue.

Why the silence from Paulists on the death of Theo van Gogh?

Why the silence on the death of Daniel Pearl?

Anti-War Libertarians in the middle 90′s were all up in arms about Waco. Great. But then Oklahoma City hit, and there was complete silence from Anti-War Libertarians on the strong ties between McVeigh/Nichols and Islamic extremists.

If you all “hate Islamo-Fascism” than prove it!

Hi Eric,

I’m on a mobile device now. Difficult to write but I can’t resist jumping in.

“Easy answer. All those who apologize for them, like Ron Paul and 90% of his followers.”

You already know my response to your quote above. You’ve ignored it many times. Even in this blog.

But ask yourself this question,

How would you react if a country hired you as a political desenter, (USA). Trained you in those arts, (CIA). Financed you against a superpower that had invaded what your holy lands, (AFGHANISTAN), deserted you in your time of need. Then your unloyal employers invaded your very same holy lands themselves.

Would’nt you be just a little pissed? Would’nt you strike back anyway you could?

If a superpower nation attempted this in Missouri and Arkansas, every hillbilly, sodbuster, low-lander, crazy or not would be up in arms and committed to a insurrectionist war.

This is pure human nature.

And that is what we have in the middle-east today.

We are conducting our selves like the British empire did in the late 1700′s.

I would remind you that in the perspective of the late 1700′s, Our founding fathers were “terrorists”.

Dr. Paul is not apologizing for Bin Laden. He is researching and understanding his motives.

This particular point of discussion has been beat to death from one end of the blog-sphere to the other.

You’re resurrection of it stands as proof that you are particularly UN-informed, ill-read, and probably do not believe the rhetoric you are spouting yourself.

You’re just putting it out there because it is in your best financial interest to do so.

People ….

This “pundit” is an anachronism.

READ,

EDUCATE YOURSELVES,

THINK FOR YOURSELVES,

DO NOT ACCEPT AN OPINION FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT. FORM YOUR OWN,

VOTE,

Thanks for your time, Eric. It has be entertaining. See you later, revolution calls.

Sincerely

Mark

OH Yeah,

Still avoiding my main points of monetary policy I see.

Hmmmm…… don’t want to open that can of wasps?

Cya L8r

Lost_in_Samoa

Silence from the Paulists? What are you talking about? I seem to recall a lot of criticism of such atrocities from conservatives and Republicans. Many of them are “Paulists”.

Obviously, the worldwide rise of Islamo-Fascism is a concern. Your suggestion to “prove we hate Islamo-Fascism” is the kind of suggestion that scares us. Your language is imprecise and invites an open ended justification to go to war with a lot of countries and spread an empire by force. Scary. We prefer to defend our country and freely trade with the world. We have confidence that a non-interventionist policy will lead to more peace. By the way, what we are currently doing is not bringing much peace, nor is it containing Islamo-Fascism.

Eric,

You seem to be really confused by Paul’s stance on our Middle Eastern foreign policy. I suggest you go do some research on Game Theory. Ever hear of John Nash? It is amazing that we have decision makers in this country that couldn’t calculate a Nash Equilibrium to save their life.

Congressman Paul is not going to win the GOP nomination. I say this respectfully. The audiences in the GOP debates looked horrified at Rep. Paul’s responses, particularly when he declared he would dismantle Homeland Security in the middle of a war! Congressman Paul is a genuine man who has absolutely no understanding of the true nature of the threat that the Islamo-Radical movement presents to U.S. National Security. “Non – Interventionism” leads to the attacks of 9/11. A policy of enforcing broken UN resolutions and taking out a tyrant who defied the will of the International Community and continued to fire at U.S. patrols in the no fly zone despite signing a treaty that prohibited such action, is a legal and responsible act that libertarians should support. I ask you to refer to Dr. Randy E. Barnett’s Opinion Piece in the Wall Street Journal where he concludes that Libertarians CAN SUPPORT the war in Iraq. Dr. Barnett is a very prominent Libertarian thinker and far from being a Neoconservative or Libertarian Republican.

I’m sure Congressman Paul is a genuine man, I’m also certain he will not be the GOP Nominee for the Presidency. The Republican audience at the GOP debates look horrified every time Congressman Paul speaks. One particular moment was when he declared that he would dismantle the department of Homeland Security, in the midst of a war! These kind of absurd statements will keep Congressman Paul right where he currently is, in the fringe of American politics. I am not stating that he does not believe in his heart what he says, however he is not confronting the reality and gravity of the threat that the Islamic Radical movement presents to the United States. “Non-Interventionism” as a foreign policy is dangerous and already resulted in the September 11th attacks.

As prominent Libertarian Dr. Randy E. Barnett points out in his recent Wall Street Journal Op-Ed piece “Libertarians and the War”: “Does being a libertarian commit one to a particular stance toward the Iraq war? The simple answer is no”
I concur with Dr. Barnett, who is not a Neoconservative and not a Libertarian Republican, that the war in Iraq is part of a larger war of self-defense against Islamic Jihadists, the philosophy that fueled the attacks of September the 11th (Barnett July 17 Wall Street Journal)

I believe, as does Dr. Barnett, that there was a legal cause to take military action against Saddam’s regime. The repeated ceasefire violations by firing on U.S. and British planes legally patrolling the “No Fly Zone” and its direct refusal to permit weapons inspectors into the country, which violated several United Nation Resolutions, and violated the terms of the Gulf War treaty once Saddam capitulated. Have mistakes in the Iraq war been made? Certainly. Name a war that has been flawless in execution? The threat of Islamic Radicalism will be with us far longer than Congressman Paul’s failed Presidential bid in the great and unending path of history. I respectfully thank you all for your time.

ryan c.

Didn’t you mean to say that “Interventionism” as a foreign policy is dangerous and already resulted in the September 11 attacks? “Interventionism” means: bases, troops, sorties, bombs, sanctions and stuff like that in areas of the world we don’t belong. You know… like we have been doing for decades.

But I guess his one man anti-Paul campaign is not SPAM…but all the Paul supporters who supposedly live together in one apartment in TX are…go figure?? Dondero…Giuliani did a great job not answering ONE question on Charlie Rose last night. He was like a dear in headlights! Great job regurgitating the evening news as his plan on getting the terrorists…even better job keeping the identity of his foreign policy advisors a secret…ewww he is so presidential. So Bigbrotheresque…

I will have to plead some ignorance on the rise of this so-called “Islamo-Fascism”. To me I have to be a little bit cynical about the idea of calling a largely religious movement as “fascist”, considering the implications of what fascism is all about.

I do believe that there could be some movement of Islam out there with grandiose ideas of world domination, but there is also a large amount of leaders in the West who have no shame in telling you their dreams for world government. What’s worse is our leaders have funded and trained these people to begin with. If you want to say ‘the “Paulites” are living in denial over “Islamo-Fascism, I will rebut you with the idea that you are largely in denial over the role we play in contributing to their movement.

We financed and built Al-Queda, our president’s family has close ties to the Bin-Laden family, Saddam Hussein was an installed CIA asset, we sold him the gas to use against Iran and his own people. We get on TV and talk all this bullshit about how we’re under attack from them, but who’s being occupied here? Who’s building pipelines through Afghanistan to the Caspian sea? Who’s building 14 permanent bases on foreign Iraqi soil? Who’s installing ex-CIA puppets to the Iraqi government? Who’s posturing their Navy for all out regional dominance? Who’s approving secret operations to be conducted in Iran?

What Mr. Dondero has done here is a typical rhetorical trick routinely employed by no-talent political hacks. He conflates two distinct political points of view, i.e. red-white-and-blue-pro-military and pro-war, then uses that false conflation to accuse the target of hypocrisy.

Pro-military is NOT pro-war. Pro-military is NOT pro-nation-building. Pro-military is NOT pro-internationalism. From time to time, we may need the military to wage war, to occupy countries, to reshape world geo-politics. But being pro-military ALWAYS means keeping a light finger on that trigger. Nobody despises the storm of war more than the soldier that has to fight it. And nobody knows more the perils of mission creep than those very same soldiers.

We went to war in Iraq to eliminate a threat to our national security, and to enforce United Nations’ resolutions. Mission Accomplished. Any continued use of the military is pure mission creep. Iraq is a sovereign country… let her sort out her issues as such. Something tells me the boys in green would call that pro-military.

Both ryan and ryan c are kindly referred to Justin Raimondo’s http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11306 article on Randy Barnett’s weird transition.

More on Barnett by Walter Block at http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block79.html

Eric, you keep quoting Zogby, but during the same period Gallup has Ron Paul going up to 3% from nothing. MMMMMM….

Honestly I feel sorry for you. This vitriol is a useless waste of time and kind of pathetic.

Ron Paul will be a great POTUS! Keep watching Eric:) I have been waiting for Ron to run for years, and now for me there is no turning back from this fight for the future of our country. If you ask me Eric, you should be thinking more about the future of our nation than your petty misunderstanding with Dr. Paul. The issue for me has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq, or Al Queda. The issue for me is liberty. I am tired of giving up my liberty, and Dr. Paul will make Congress work to pass anything that is unconstitutional. God Bless Him. In the end I think all of us need to ask ourselves if we want the US to be free again, or we want to live under tyranny. The LAST thing I want to is to be free of Al Queda, and a slave to the US government. May as well be a slave to the Muslims.

I think Ron Paul is the best thing since the Founding Fathers! If he doesn’t win, the country is finished. Everything will be so expensive (because of this fiat money)that we’ll just barely scrape by – merely “existing” in a feudalistic society called the North American Union. It will be worse than George Orwell ever imagined. I think Ron Paul can win, but the problem will be the vote fraud with those electronic ballots. We need to figure out what to do about that!

Ron Paul is the only presidential hopeful that can lead America back onto it’s proper course as a strong, prosperous nation that leads the world by example.

Ron Paul is contageous! I belong to a meet up group joined the last week of July, we started with 14 members. Went and stood in 105 degree heat for four hours holding signs for Ron Paul Revolution. At the first week in August meeting we were up to 26 members. I was curious and asked how many could vote in the Republican Primaries. 25 or the
26 were registered.

I live 20 miles from the nearest town and everyone lives away from the others most have 1 to 4 acre parcels. I have been a Republican for 38 years and before standing up for
Ron Paul have only given money to the GOP.

It is at the end of the month and our congress person had a meeting at the county seat at a church and there were 30 people in attendance. Other than the 9 people in his party
we of our Ron Paul group had 17 people there.

We pay for all the banners and signs ourselves. We have
near 50 members signed on August 26. When I see people which is not often. I find that everyone I talk to is interested or willing to read the slim jims and several said they will be at the next meeting. It is a phonominon.

I do not know the reason for the others but me I have a one
year old and a four year old and want to have a good country for them when they grow up so I got involved. Ron
Paul is honest and means what he says and says what he means. What else could you ask for.

Ron Paul is Our Mr. Smith in Washington the average guy that is honest and does not have to say anything over again.
Go Ron Paul Revolution!!!!!!!!
CHEERS.

I just got off the phone with my Aunt’s husband, a retired doctor, who like Dr. Paul, delivered babies. He’s pretty old but he’s a smart Republican.

He told me he never goes online and he watches FOX news. Said that Guiliani would probably get the nod and lose to Billary. He said he would support Dr. Paul if he could get the nod, but thought he had a zero to no chance of getting the nomination.

It made me realize one thing. We have to keep the internet free.

One thing is clear. The cat is out of the bag. 40,000 people signed up to volunteer for Dr. Paul. Those people arent going away. Regardless, if Dr. Paul gets the nomination or not, the message is clear and avidly supported, so expect alot of these same people to support each other on their way to D.C. to get these damn crooks out of power.

And Eric, no shit he is invested in gold. If I were him that would be part of my plan too. Imagine saving this coutnry from financial disaster and (gasp) profiting from DOING THE RIGHT THING!!! So for that, I hope he makes BILLIONS.

On the Iraq war ‘apologists’, Ive got some choice words but Ill remain calm as I repeat what Ive learned. We have been ignoring the advice of our founders and meddling in the middle east since WWII. That is the reason we are hated. Our mega-elites that control our money, profit from our wars and want that oil money in Iraq and Iran. PERIOD.

Im a high school educated, average joe citizen. That doesnt make me stupid.

We have a shining chance to make a difference. Im proud to support Dr. Paul and my meetup is working their butts off to help him win.

The deck is stacked and the odds are against us. They cant shut us up or stop us from, at the very least, getting a sane message to the voters around us.