My Xbox 360 games and Pal 60 problems

There is a lesson to be learned here, cheap TV’s are not always good because of the price.

Dodgy TV mate.

Erm, why are you trying to feed your HD ready TV with a crappy PAL signal???

Its a HDTV. Use component video. Or even better, if its its got a VGA connection, use that.

RTFM.

dude you were better off buying a ps3. you’re having problems already with your 360 and that is a bad sign even if it is only one game. did you know the failure rate for 360 is 33% or more meaning there is a possiblity that soonr or later urs could break down. the failure rate is only 2% on the ps3 and it is a better multimedia device overall a much better game line up to come. oh and did i mention you can’t watch hd movies on ur tv without buying a £130 hd-drive. a hd bluray comes installed in a ps3 meaning you can watch hi def movies from the word go. my opinion- you made the wrong choice and could regret it

So you buy a cheap TV and you are surprised that it won’t work properly?

Don’t be surprised when your cheap 360 crashes while playing Forza 2, scratches the disc or goes 3 red rings on you.

Fanboy rants aside for a second – He`s using the wrong cable. If he bothered to use the supplied component cable, Pal60 issues would dissapear.

Nothing to do with the price or quality of the telly.

hey you are stupid ricky dont listen to him,look ricky its not the xbox 360 he has pal on his setup witch sucks and he also has a cheap tv he didnt say it was because of the xbox 360 he said it was because of pal,and also i play forza everyday and my 360 still works and i also have had mine since it came out and i have had no problem with it,best console ever.you hd blu-ray you are stupid ricky thats why hd-dvd is selling way better than blue-ray and its not hd-drive its hd-dvd your stupid,and you said a better line up dude get out once in awile and shut up because you do not know what you are talking about.the xbox 360 has the best line up of games an exclusives than any other console.Look the xbox 360 has 40 exclusives coming out for it the ps3 only has 19,the ps3 doesnt even get the new madden 08 because its for xbox 360 only,splinter cell conviction 360 only,bio shock 360 only,mass effect 360 only,and the most wonderful game of all Halo3 360 only,theres alot more exclusiives but i dont have the time.

First of all thanks for the comments –

This one is for Scoob101: just to let you know that when I received the 360 I used the leads that was given to me, it says to connect to high definition TV connect the HD AV cable connector to the AV port on the console then set the switch on the AV connector to HDTV (this connector has TV or HDTV, I have switched it over to HDTV) because the LCD TV I bought supports high definition resolutions such as 480p, 720p and 1080i, then it says connect the red, green and blue color banded video connectors on the HD AV cable to the corresponding color inputs (y,Cb/Pb,Cr/Pr) on your TV. Leave the yellow banded composite video connector unconnected. Then it goes on to connect the solid colour left and right (white and red) audio connectors on the HD TV. So after all of this I thought this would work.

This one is for Ricky lakhay: Ok so you informed us of the failure rate for 360 which is 33% or more and the failure rate is only 2% on the PS3, my answer to that is, of course the failure rate will be much higher than the Xbox 360. But you have to look at it like this, the 360 has been out much longer than the PS3 but trust me within time the PS3 rate of failure will very high. If you only looking for gaming, graphics, great choice of games and online gaming then there is no way anything will beat the Xbox 360.

So my overall question is “Have I used the right cable? Well I have to say yes I did because it says if connecting to a high definition TV use these connectors and switch the switch on the AV connector to HDTV which I did.

“If you only looking for gaming, graphics, great choice of games and online gaming then there is no way anything will beat the Xbox 360″

WTH are you talking about? 360 got almost nothing. The only decent games are Halo 3 and DOA series. And that’s it.
Don’t even think about talking about your “Gears of War” or “Lost Planet” because I can play them on my PC.

And what great choice of online games do you have when you don’t have a Gold membership account? Just lame.

Also PS3 will definitely beat Xbox360. Just wait till MGS4 and KZ2 will come out.

Ok Mark, now that youve said that you are using the component cables, set to HDTV, that means that the PAL 60 settings dissapear from the dashboard (because ou are not feeding a PAL signal any more). So thats why it won`t “let you” change that setting – you can`t change something thats not being used.

As for TopSpin moaning about PAL60 when using component cables, thats just plain wrong. You are not feeding a PAL signal to the TV, you are feeding a component video signal, so the game asking for PAL60 is just incorrect. Check the xbox video settings. Make sure your video resolution is set to 720p or 1080i. Check the TV reports the same resolution when you change to component on the TV set. If all that is OK, then it must be game and should be returned.

Anyway, thats enough of that. Time for some petty, mindless fanboy nonsense. PS3 SUXX!!!!!

(yawn)

Thanks Scoob101 you the man, and must say i made the right choice. PS3 is expensive and boring.

The answer to this is actually very simple. Set you 360 to standard tv and the Pal 60 option will then appear in the settings menu. Then switch off the console, flip the switch on the back to HDTV and you should find that Top Spin will now work.

Mark, your first comment adressed to Ricky didn’t make much sense at all. No offense, but the failure rate doesn’t necessarily increase with how recently the console launched. To tell you the truth, the Xbox 360 has a much higher chance of breaking down than the Playstation 3, and even Microsoft acknowledges that. Now, I’m not going to get into mindless, non-intellectual talk like “Teh Xb0x 360 pwns!” or “Da SuxB0x 36o suxorz!!1!”, but when you actually take some time to look into the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 peripherals, the PS3 is an amazing console.

First off, a comment like “If you only looking for gaming, graphics, great choice of games and online gaming then there is no way anything will beat the Xbox 360.” is completely ludicrous. Let’s compare the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 first, then the Elite to be fair.

Graphics:

The Playstation 3 is a powerhouse, and focuses greatly on graphics. It’s highest resolution is 1080p, ready since launch, whereas the Xbox 360 was only capable of 1080i until a recent update. Next, the Playstation 3 has an HDMI output, while you can only get that otherwise by buying an Xbox 360 Elite. The PS3′s HDMI out port is v 1.3, a significantly higher quality than the Elite’s v 1.2, although the .1 difference may seem insignificant at a glance. Right there, the Playstation 3 beat both Xbox 360s.

Cost:

Right now, the premium Playstation 3 costs $499. The premium Xbox 360 costs $399. Let’s make the characteristics even, by comparing the features.

Standard Hard Drive. Playstation 3: 60GB Xbox 360: 20GB
The Playstation 3 has an upgradeable internal hard drive, allowing the user to add any compatible hard drive, such as the 200GB I upgraded to recently. For the Xbox 360, you need a Microsoft-made hard drive that only comes in 20 or 120GB.

Controller:

The Playstation 3 can use up to 7 wireless controllers, while the Xbox 360 can use only 4 wireless controllers. The PS3 has motion-sensitive Sixaxis controllers, yet the Xbox 360 was confined to wired controllers at launch.

Headset:

The Playstation 3 can use any Bluetooth or USB headset. The Xbox 360 uses the provided Microsoft headset, but other headsets are possible if you can try to get them to work hard enough.

Cost:

Playstation 3: $499. Let’s make the two even.

Xbox 360: $399.99
120GB Hard Drive: $179.99
Xbox Live Gold: $49.99 annually
Wireless Adapter: $99.99
High Definition DVD Player: $179.99 with the price drop.

All of this comes to $909.95. You could have gotten all of this in a Playstation 3 for $499, but the extra $410 to an Xbox 360 doesn’t hurt, right?

There’s lots of other aspects to add, as well. Playstation 3 users enjoy their consoles more, and use them more than the average Xbox 360 user. Studies show that the average Playstation 3 session is 83 minutes long, while the average session for the Xbox 360 is only 61 minutes. Like others have said, the 360 failure rate is between 30-50%, the PS3′s is 1-2%, etc.

So, have any opinions been swayed with the truth?

So here is a gentleman asking a serious question about his TV and xbox 360 configuration and the little closed minded ps3 little b*tches are here attacking him. Get a life! Are you guys just surfing the web for bad news on xbox to make yourselves feel better about throwing down 6oo dollars to play games that you can play for 399. Dude you made the right decision on your purchase. Xbox has a ton of exclusives with and unmatched online community (it’s been around longer). I hate to break it to you guys that are still into PS3, but Kill Zone is no Halo. Never was, never will be. Metal Gear solid 4 not a halo either. It may be close to Gears, but gears has a terrific online multiplayer mode. All we have seen out of games to come from ps3 is prerendered stuff no gameplay. Oh and by the way Konami has found a loop hole with metal gear and they are outsourcing it to another company to port over to the xbox a couple months after it release for ps3. Reguarding the 33% defective console. At least microsoft is doing us right by giving us a three year warranty. Your wonderful Sony wouldn’t do that. That’s why the ps2 crashed after two years and all those who bought the ps2 in the beginning had to buy another one 2 years later. Us Xbox fans started out as PS2 fans… So why do you think we moved to xbox? We wanted something more! Lose your Sony loyalty and try the Xbox like we did and you’ll see why we changed. Or you can just let Sony tell you what to buy.

Ignore Fanboy Daniel. You have made the right choice going for the 360, and the PAL 60 issue does exist… However annoying it might be, the solution is connecting the machine using the standard TV connectors, letting the game download an update, and then connect back with the HDTV connectors and see if that works.

Jed is right, I had the same problem with Hitman. My console is connected to a PC monitor. I just plugged into into a standard TV, the Pal options became available, changed them and plugged the box back into the monitor. Simple as Jed says!

Oh and by the way Konami has found a loop hole with metal gear and they are outsourcing it to another company to port over to the xbox a couple months after it release for ps3.

Ummmm, no. That is definitely not the case, unless you care to back that up with a reliable (read not blog or unfounded rumour) source? (Which will be extremely difficult, seeing as there is none available)

on the output lead, switch from hdtv output to pal. Alter the output on the settings tab to pal 60. turn off machine them switch back to hdtv. this worked for me.

Chris, I have to say there are some holes in your comparisons between the Xbox 360 and PS3, so I wanted to redress the balance of what is clearly a pro-PS3 and somewhat anti-360 opinion. I also happen to live in Europe so I want to point out some things from our end.

First off, your response to the comment that “If you only looking for gaming, graphics, great choice of games and online gaming then there is no way anything will beat the Xbox 360.” as being completely ludicrous, I do actually agree with. It is ludicrous to presume that nobody is going to ever be able to match, or better what the Xbox 360 is doing at the moment. However, in the here and now, The Xbox 360 is the far better choice for the serious gamer. The Xbox, in my own, and in many others, opinion has the best line up of games coming this fall of any console in memory. That’s not to say the PS3 doesn’t have some great games on the horizon, but a lot of their biggest games, like MGS4 and Killzone won’t be around till next year.

As far as the failure rates go, yes Microsoft has acknowledged the problem, and also taken steps to combat this, as well as providing a 3 YEAR warranty. PS3 has not been dogged with too many complaints yet, but it’s still early doors, and I know from my own experience with Sony’s previous products (working in the customer service department of a major retailer) that many of the faults tended not to materialise until the warranty had expired (especially the PS2 dvd drive). I’m not saying that this will be the case with the PS3, but I’m interested to see what happens once those first year warranties have run out. I am also curious to know where you got your failure rate figures, although I suspect they are sourced from internet forums and therefore I would advise anyone to take them with a large grain of salt

Right down to your comparisons:

Graphics:
Both consoles are capable of rendering at 1080p, and the Xbox 360 is no less capable of this just because the facility was added as an upgrade; just look at Virtua Tennis 3 or NBA homecourt. However, most next-gen games, as I’m sure you well know, but failed to point out, are being rendered at 720p natively anyway so it’s a bit of a moot point. Also, most lay-people would struggle greatly to tell the difference between something running through component and HDMI. One point I would make though, is if you look at one of the biggest games for both machines this year, Madden 08, the Xbox 360 version runs at 60fps whereas the PS3 one only runs at 30fps, and that does make a but of a difference, not a damning one, but one nonetheless.

Cost:
Right now the PS3 costs €629 (over $800), whereas the Pro Xbox 360 console costs only €399. As well as that, all Pro consoles come with at least one extra controller and 2 games in every major retailler, so that’s added value there. Certainly you get more features out of the box with the PS3, however, many of these features have no real benefit to gaming, such as wi-fi, HD movie playback and the larger HDD over the Xbox 360. Also, there is no comparison between the online experience with XBL and the PNP; XBL wins hands down. Sure you have to pay for it, however, I would point out that Sony, when questioned, have not ruled out charging for online gaming in the future.

Controllers:
The PS3 can use up to 7 wireless controllers. Now, please name one game that has support for 7 controllers. You can’t because there are none. Even if there were, you would be hard pushed to have a 7-player split screen. 4 controllers is all you really need in the home. You did however neglect to point out that the sixaxis is a design that is completely outdated. The xbox 360 controller on the other hand has a very ergonomic design and fits more natually in you hand. The trigger buttons and analog sticks are far superior on the Xbox 360. Sony do have motion control in their controller, but this has not been implemented well as yet in any game, and has come at the cost of force feedback (which I do know they may well be getting back), most notable when playing FPS and racing games.

As far as headsets go, Sony do indeed have the edge, being able to use any bluetooth headset with ease. But the Xbox 360 wireless headset is a fine piece of kit also, and at a fairly reasonable price.

I did have to laugh when I read that “PS3

I think what guy means is that Yes Kojima has said that although MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive. The updated version of MSG4 (supersubsistance, or whatever he decides to call it) will appear on xbo. Just look at MGS2. Original was PS2 exclusive but MGS2: Substance came out on the xbox. Konami want to see how it fares on the PS3 & then, if they have the need, they will release it on xbox. And even if it never comes to the xbox 360, who really cares? Yes it dose look like a good game. And t WILL sell well. But it is nothing like halo. Recall MGS3 only sold as much as Gears of War (around 4 million). Halo 2 sold 8 million.

And Killzone 2? Halo killer? Are you serious? Killzone 1 had nothing on Halo. It didn’t even get good reviews. Gamespot gave it a 6.9/10 while it gave halo 2 a 9.4/10.

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps2/action/killzone/index.html
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html

And the xbox IS better value for money. The xbox gives you choice. It dosent force you to go HD unless you want to. And because it didn’t include an internal HD-DVD drive it is cheaper & more convenient. And as for the hard drive, I’m from europe & we dont get to download movies so the 20 GB suits me fine. And for those who want more, they can buy the elite. And Microsoft even cater for those who dont want a hard drive, and only want to play great games.

So in my opinion Microsoft have catered for all kinds of gamers, while the PS3 shoves all this great technology down your throat for a very hefty fee. And sony have stopped manufacturing the 60 GB PS3, and in an attempt to sell it off quickly have dropped the price to $499. So soon there’ll only be one model available – the 80 GB PS3 which will sell for $599.

And Microsoft has just dropped the xbox 360 price by $50, so now the Premium is only $350 compared.

Yes it has a high failure rate but who cares? We get 3 years free repair. And few are turned off buy a bunch of unnofficial figures of failure rates. Yes thouse rates have not been confirmed, several retailers have claimed 33% failures. No official statements have been announced. Although I’m sure the figures are high, there not 1 in 3. And even if they were, who cares? Most people buy a console for its games, not just for its great technology.

And as NICK said, remember the PS2? Every single person I know(including myself) has had their PS2 brake after 2 or 3 years. And ALL of us were forced to but another to compensate. Sony didn’t give a great customer service like Microsoft. And just like NICK I bought an xbox, & it more than lived up to the hype. It was a GREAT console, with GREAT games. As is the xbox 360.

And xbox dose have great games. Apart from stealing most PS3′s exclusives, the xbox has halo 3, halo wars, Mass effect, DOA, fable 2 that ARE still exclusive!

These comments are a joke, the once that caught my eye as being worthy of particular scorn is the post from Chris.

I can forgive mindless fanboy rant, when it doesn`t try to dress itself up as a logical, reasoned argument. However our friend Chris seems to think he can dress up his fanaticism for a brand of console as the “truth” and get some kudos for it.

Sadly you are oh so wrong. You`ve got learn, my boy, that in order for people to respect your opinion you need to think about what your saying, and why your saing it, before you speak (or post).

I think you need to understand that you are a fanatic, and therefore your comments are not objective in any way. Theres no problem with enthusiuasm, but you`ve taken it a bit too far.

I won`t attempt to address any of your points, because to do so would simply drag me down to your level. Understand this. There is room for more than one console in the marketplace. The choice is down to the consumer, and right now, he has some great consoles to chose from. There is no right and wrong. There is only choice.

Grow up.

Now grow up, and

A word you may want to look up in the dictionary is “Objective”.

A perfectly good flame, completley screwed up by poor editing.

Bugger!

Go on console setting put your HD component cables in your tv and play in high def your console should play at native 720p so try it

Adrian I read about mgs 4 in xbox magazine… There’s your resource and if it isn’t true then like they said above oh well who cares. Scoob101 oh how you are so much better than everyone else. How I wish to be mature like you! They reason why all this started is because some Sony fanboy found his way in here to bash this guy when he didn’t even ask for their opinion. We came in here to see if there was a problem with our investment, but it was not. I know I don’t scour the web for Sony posts and change the subject just to rant about what I don’t like about them. We are just defending our investment in gaming to combat the ideals of the PS3 fanboys. They seem to be the ones that always throw more crap to the fan when it comes to the console war. And yes the market is big enough for all three consoles. They are just afraid that xbox might just get a bigger piece of the pie this time around and for a good reason!

I can`t be that mature if I indulge in flame wars with children about games consoles!

I was simply pointing out how pointless this all is and why. The OP got the advice he needed to fix his problem, the rest of the posts are just nonsense.

If youre so insecure about your console purchase that you have to post stuff to strangers on the internet to make yourself feel better, then I think thats rather sad. The fact that you actually care what these morons think is equally telling.

Hey mates, I didn’t want to get into an argument like this, either. All I was doing was looking up the Playstation 3 on Google News when I came across this blog, and the Anti-Playstation 3 comments urged me to set things straight, or at least even out the balance.

There’s no doubt that I’m obviously outnumbered here by Xbox 360 fanbo- erm, supporters. Maybe I’m the only person here who has factual knowledge of the Playstation 3, and I also know a lot about the Xbox 360 because I had one. If it weren’t for the defective Xbox 360′s at launch, and especially the lack of good games at launch, I wouldn’t have been discouraged from buying an Xbox 360. I’m actually glad I didn’t, because the Playstation 3 was definitely worth the wait.

I respect your opinion, Wayne, but I’m going to have to disregard your comment for now because it’s hard to relate to it since the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are somewhat different here in the United States.

Scoob, I also acknowledge your opinion, but not respect it because you flagrantly accuse me of being fanatic and you lack factual support. I know there is room for all 3 consoles on the market, but I support the Playstation 3, because it is a great console in my opinion, and I play it more often than I did with my Xbox 360, and I play it much more often than my Wii, (which sits under the TV for long periods at a time).

I’d like to get this one thing out of the way. Metal Gear Solid 4 will never come to the Xbox 360, so don’t get your hopes up. Kojima confirmed it, there is no loophole, and all this accumulated off of one rumor. Plus, I wouldn’t support the rumor, because it makes individuals look desperate for a great Playstation 3 exclusive like Metal Gear Solid 4. So let’s just drop the MGS4 port rumor now.

In the early comments, Ricky stated his opinion, and gave advice about the Playstation 3. Then, Matt and Mark started ranting on Ricky with something along the lines of “You’re a stupidhead!” Well, Matt said that he was stupid, which is pretty close.

I was unoccupied at the moment, and that’s why I had a lengthy period of time to think about and write a long article. After I wrote so much, I did think about the post, and I admit, it was a little unrelated. It would be better off in an article titled “The Xbox 360 is better than the Playstation 3″. I guess you could compare it to telling a kid he’s adopted during his 10th birthday party, so I apologize for starting out with such an in-depth post.

Another thing I’d like to get out of the way; The Xbox 360 has a 3-year warranty (Announced somewhat recently), and that’s good to hear. I’m not concerned because the Playstation 3 doesn’t need a 3-year warranty.

Next thing, the Playstation 2 talk is also very unrelated, but there’s no need to bring it into this discussion. Of around 120 people I know with a PS2, only about 2 or 3 had to get theirs replaced. About half of my friend’s with PS2′s have had theirs for 7 years, and they still work fine. Unfortunately, only about 6 of my friends have Xbox 360′s. My very unlucky friend purchased a defective console at launch, replaced it, then replaced his second 360 due to red lights after about a month. Two other friends had to replace their 360 once.

Lastly, I never stated that Killzone 2 would be a Halo killer. For all we know, it could be a Halo killer. Killzone 2 will be a great game, and Halo 3 is going to be an incredible game. That’s the truth. Mass Effect looks okay, but there’s a little too much RPG element for me to like it. Bioshock looks great!

But… I can play it on my PC.

Back to Halo 3. To be honest, I’m kind of jealous that Halo 3 is an Xbox 360 exclusive. The beta wasn’t too fun, but I’m sure the retail game will be better. But Microsoft has put too much focus on Halo 3. It’s going to be the biggest game of it’s year, but then what? The Xbox 360 will have one massive exclusive, and two huge exclusives, but the Playstation 3 will have three close-to-massive exclusives, three or four huge exclusives, and more than a dozen great exclusives. In my opinion, there will be a big drought after Halo 3.

But what exclusives for the PS3 are those Chris? Except the first party games like Kill Zone, Gran Turismo, and one third party game in MGS4 (which may yet prove to be anything but exclusive in the long term) what exclusives does the PS3 have? Not many. Xbox 360 won’t suffer a drought after Halo 3, as we know what is coming after September. The COMPLETE GTA4 experience, Alan Wake, and a ton of multi platform games… The simple thing is, in Europe the Xbox 360 reigns supreme, purely down to the cost, and the fact I can play the majority of the games the PS3 has for less cost!

Chris:

So what youre saying is “My post contains facts, and therefore my assumptions and conclusions must be correct.”

Erm, it doesn`t quite work that way. Think about it. Each consumer makes a choice on his own preferences, which won`t be the same as your preferences.

There is no right and wrong. If there was, we`d all buy the same console, and the industry innovation brought about by competing brands would not exist. Is that what you want?

you don’t have 2 have an LCD HDTV for the 360 to breakdown it does not like pal 60 at all the main problem when it happens the machine will sometimes resets itself or switches itself off and the disc tray will refuse to open and it only happens when you play pal 60 all the other screen formats work fine . i heard a rumour about a dead mans switch i saw the report on a BBC show i think it was watchdog ..

Hi, guys am kinda curious did your problem on the pal issue get resolved, also I own an xbox 360 and have had a few problems with it , but I remain happy with my choice of console and respect other peoples opinions and choices on theirs, just wish other people could focus on how to make the gaming community better, instead of mad rants about which console is best etc. we all make our own choices , lets enjoy them . cheers ( viva xbox 360 ) ha ha just kidding not ranting.

Sorry Plkrtn, I could have sworn I listed a few of the Playstation 3 exclusives coming…

In alphabetical order:

Afrika, The Agency, Brave Arms, Coded Arms: Assault, Driver 5, Dynasty Warriors 6, Eight Days, The Eye of Judgment, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy XIII, Folklore, The Getaway 3, God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, Haze, Heavenly Sword, Hot Shots Golf 5, Infamous, Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, Killzone 2, Lair, LittleBigPlanet, Metal gear Online, Metal Gear Solid 4, Monster Hunter 3, NBA 08, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Singstar, Socom: Confrontation, Tekken 6, Time Crisis 4, Timesplitters 4, Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune, Warhawk, and many others that I don’t remember of the top of my head.

And Plkrtn, GTA4 is not a 360 exclusive, it has exclusive content but the game itself is not exclusive. (At least I hope not… you know, since I have it pre-ordered and all. Man, that would suck.)

The COMPLETE GTA4 experience, Alan Wake, and a ton of multi platform games

You mean games that will feature on the PS3 also?

I never said GTA4 is exclusive, however ask Rockstar what version they say people should get…

Quite literally the only 2 exclusives on that list that I would personally like to see on the 360 are God of War and MGS4.

There are so many games on the PS3 that are rely on being sequels to PS or PS2 games. Its a bit, well, depressing really.

Quite literally the only 2 exclusives on that list that I would personally like to see on the 360 are God of War and MGS4.

There are so many games on the PS3 that are rely on being sequels to PS or PS2 games. Its a bit, well, depressing really.

13 out of 37 are original titles… 1/3 of them… and to be fair you will have to admit that it is the developers that make the sequels… why do they make them? because they sell. It’s true on PS3 and it’s true on the 360.

BTW. I didn’t count FFXIII (either one) in the thirteen originals because it has a number after it… but it is really an original, it’s just an RPG good enough to be called Final Fantasy. New characters, new system, new story… pretty much new everything.

Sorry Chris, thats a fine list of games you got there. But no offense – but the only PS3 game I’m actually interested in playing is MGS4. You can keep the rest. Whatever great exclusives you come up with the xbox has a similar/ alternative game to compensate. Oh & I know all you PS3 fans keep claiming that MGS is exclusive. But can’t you just admit theres a small, even tiny possibility that it may appear on the 360? In the past the series HAS appeared on other systems. So never say never.

I’d say Microsoft are having many talks with Konami at the moment, trying to bring it to the xbox. There probably giving them a shitload of bribes too. Yes kojima has said that it would be PS3 exclusive, but you know what? Its not up to him. He created this world but Konami own the distribution rights. Also in the past Kojimia has said that it WOULD be poossible to do it on the 360. If u want some links then here:
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/676/676685p1.html
http://www.rotpod.net/rotpod/?p=674

Both these consoles are very similar. Apart from minor graphical inhancements etc the only real difference is that the PS3 uses blue-ray while the xbox 360 uses dual layered DVD. So for anyone who claims that its impossible to do a PS3 game on the 360 is an idiot. Even if the game took up like 20 GB of a blue ray disk. The xbox version might have to ship with 2, GASP! even 3 DVD’s. Personally I don’t care if I have to change disks half way through a game. I did it on the gamecube & the original PS.

As for games, everyone’s entitled to their own preferencers. But personally I prefer the xbox library over the PS3′s so naturally I bought an xbox!

Ok, Metal Gear Solid 4 is the only game you like out of the 37 exclusives I mentioned. Therefore, you like 1/37 of all Playstation 3 upcoming exclusives. If I do the same proportion with the Xbox 360… I like 1/4 of Halo 3 -.-

Erm… Don’t you mean you like 1/80 or more? I think the xbox has more than 4 exclusives, much more. And besides its quality not quantity. I seriously doubt that all 37 of those PS3 exclusives will be best sellers. And I know not all xbox exclusives will be the same.

But I’m not going to buy a PS3 just to play 1 game. I’d need at least 4 or more games to convince me to buy one.
But I get your point – you prefer the PS3 Library over the xbox. Fine by me. I’ll enjoy playing my DOA, Halo 3, Halo wars, Gears of war 2, Fable 2, Mass effect, Dead Rising.

And if your curious about the number of other exclusives:
http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=7064

See – I told you there were more than 4.
Anyway, enjoy playing your PS3.

another issue has come to my attention with pal 60 problems i found it switching itself off and the disc tray refusing to open when i switch it back on does anyone else notice this . a friend of mine said it could easily be something simple as overheating ,well it does get a lot hotter when in pal 60 mode . let me know if anybody has similar problems …

i own a 360, my nephew owns a ps3. Personally i prefer the 360 (got games that suit me -30 m, my gf – 25 f, and our son – 8 m) and my 12 year old nephew prefers his ps3. Who gives a rats arse which console sells more – i wanna see all 3 next gen (although calling nintendo ‘next-gen’ is pushing it) sell well, cause it means better games all round. all ‘fan-boys’ (ps3 and 360) need to shut their f#%King mouths and just enjoy the fact that both consoles have something to offer!!!
Hope you sorted your pal 60 issues (which was a tv prob, not a console issue!!) and i hope you enjoy the large amount of games on your 360 while other console owners are waiting for some decent games!
If yu ever do get a ps3, i hope any probs you have will be answered by people, not god-damn idiots trying to promote a certain system. i for one want to get paid if i decide to convince my friends into buying one or the other!!!

RExxxxx, I’m well aware that there are more than four upcoming exclusives for the Xbox 360. By the way, that site is extremely biased, and lists only 36 upcoming Playstation 3 exclusives, whereas there are actually 90 games announced. The same thing goes for the Nintendo Wii. The Xbox 360 also has around 50 exclusives coming, so that site isn’t very reliable at all.

I never said that it was 100% reliable. Its just you said you like 1/4 of xbox exclusives whereas there are much more than just 4. Anyways it dosen’t matter, I don’t care THAT much about exclusives, 2/3 of my gaming library contain multiplatform games. And I’m looking forward to many more i.e GTA, Assassins creed, resident evil 5…the list goes on.

N DEADRED your right, all this fanboy stuff is pi**ing me off too. I just get pulled in so easily. I just find it annoying when PS3 fanboys start bashing the xbox, n I feel the need to defend it. But you know what? I don’t have to, cause it can handle its own. The PS3 couldn’t have hoped for a better rival…Cept the wii, whose sales are kicking everyone’s ass

And with all the competition we should be seeing more great games arise this gen. Oh I wish these companies would just HURRY UP AND GET THEM OUT THERE!

Speaking of Grand Theft Auto IV, it got delayed. Which really sucks… There’s one event we can both grieve over

Someone (Daniel) posted responses to this article at:

http://www.product-reviews.net/2007/07/31/breakdown-of-sony-ps3-vs-xbox-360-peripherals-chris-tries-to-sway-opinions/#comment-6281

“Greeter” outlined, very strong reasons why the PS3 isn’t that great.

mate try buying a HDMI cable its about 30 bucks and trust me its worth it i had the same problem and i have 55 inch sony TV which cost me $4,450