60fps Xbox 360, 30fps Sony PS3 for Madden NFL and NCAA Football 08
Filed under: Gaming, Sony Playstation 3, Xbox 360 | By: Daniel
Posted on: July 1, 2007 | 34 Comments
Microsoft Xbox 360 owners are going to love this news as NCAA Football 08 and Madden NFL 08 will be running at 60 frames per second on the Microsoft Xbox 360, while the Sony PS3 will run at just 30fps.
While the debate will go on forever on which is the best console for graphics (the Sony Playstation 3 or the Xbox 360), but in this battle it looks like the 360 has won.
Loyal Playstation owners I guess will feel very frustrated over these frames per second limitations as the PS3 is meant to be the better machine with specs clearly pointing to that.
The PS3 is capable of creating stunning graphics but it seems that game developers are cutting corners when creating games for the Sony PS3.
So when do you think developers will start giving Playstation 3 games the resources they need to create game experiences PS3 fans deserve?
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This game suck! So i dont care if the game runs only 10fps. Im not going to buy it.
microsoft must have paid a lot of money….to get 30fps on the ps3 and 60 fps on the 360 cuz now its a properly known fact that the ps3 have far more advanced hardware(reliable too)than the rushed in 360……check out this youtube vid of GDC07 . these are the kind of physics the ps3 can handle and no other can…..wait till 2008 or actually end 2007. all developers are gonna jump back to the ps3 ship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Xz9u03AZY
This fame rate my make no noticable difference to how the game looks or plays.
BTW is the 360 version running at true 1080p 60fps like NBA08 is on the PS3?
Where did you hear this? This is a serious problem!! I’ve got ps3 and have been looking towards all the hype for months, and then to pull out this crap only 3 weeks out?
That physics video was lame, just another “hype-machine” that Sony uses to sway their fanzombies. With no input, environment/bump mapping, backgrounds or any other processing going on, a fairly inexpensive computer can run that demo - weak!
I got sick of Sony’s over-hyping and under-delivering back with the PS2. I clearly remember an executive stating that the PS2 would be ” 10,000 times more powerful than the Dreamcast”….. it was barely .5 time more powerful.
Sony really needs to spend less money on marketing BS and more money on showing devs how to tap this “hidden potential” that we all keep hearing about. People just want to play games, unless you’re a fanzombie - then it seems you want to only try to rationalize your less than wise PS3 purchase. Given the PS3’s inferior architecture (non-unified memory and missing the Xbox’s bad ass frame buffer) and inferior GPU, I seriously doubt Sony can deliver on their claims that the PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox. The proof is in the pudding, as the saying goes. Don’t get me wrong, I hope they totally prove me wrong - if they do, I’ll be more than happy to shell out for a PS3. Then all they’d need to do is fix the PSN.
Game on gamers! (However, I have a feeling its going to be “flame on” since a lot of the fanzombies don’t have games to play)
im no “fanzombie”. I am dissapointed that they are going with the 30 frame crap. I have both systems, and the truth is they are comparable, no need for this 30 to 60 frame diff. tell ya though, my ps3 hasnt crashed yet since launch, but since launch for my 360 I am now waiting for my 5TH repair/replacement all done through warranty, but that leaves me a lot of time to play my ps3 while im always waiting for m$ to get it right. about a 20 to 30 percent return rate for repairs, at least in my province.
MS didn’t pay anything for this, lol. It’s sony’s fault for making a machine that is harder to develop for.
this means nothing. ea makes the game for the 360, then ports it to ps3. thats the reason why. its the same reason the res on thp8 was 600something on ps3 instead of 720. if they made two versions of the game separatly, they would be dead even at the least.
By now you would think that the arguements about which system was better would have come to an end. The PS3 has simply been dominated by the XBOX 360 from day 1. Say what you want about the hardware but it doesn’t mean a thing when it is difficult, time consuming and expensive to develop for which system will companies rather make games for? There is not one advantage that Sony can truly claim to have with the PS3. Lets count the many that Microsoft can brag about with the 360:
1. Easy development of games for the people that make the games
2. Ability for the games to be designed to go cross platform and work on PC’s. (eventually will also include cell phones and handhelds)
3. Online community that is so much better then Sony’s that comparing the two here is ridiculous.
4. Upcoming IPTV programming
5. 3 times as many systems sold
These all add up to more profits for the developers to make great games for XBOX 360 and PC, while pushing out whatever they have time for on the PS3.
Face it, Sony blew it bad in all aspects and Microsoft gave them a taste of their own medicine by being the first to market and winning the love of all the major developers whose jobs are now easier because of Microsoft. This debate is officially over so don’t even write any half ass responses to this!
I can’t believe someone would accuse EA of taking money to cripple the framerate of a PS3 game - that’s just stupid and EA would NEVER do that.
The problem is two-fold:
#1 - the graphics processor on the PS3 is a fantastic processor, but in some things it’s just not quite on-par with the amazing graphics processor in the 360. When people compare the specs of the systems, they always tend to look at the CPU instead of the GPU. The CPU of the PS3 is amazing at floating point processing, even if it is harder to program for (and speaking as a programmer it would be WAY harder to code for SPUs instead of conventional CPU code). On PCs, you’ll notice that the main difference in FPS numbers come from the graphics card (GPU) these days, not the CPU. Sony knows that their graphics card is not quite as powerful as the Xenon in the 360, so they emphasize the processor even though it’s not what really affects FPS as much as the GPU (the CPU will affect things like AI and physics engines).
#2 - Microsoft’s development tools are simply the best. The reason is simple - they’re the same development tools Windows programmers use (not just game programmers) so they have a huge incentive to spend tons of money on their development tools. Sony has traditionally found that developers write their own customized assembly code for Sony hardware so they don’t invest much in the development tools and libraries since they think developers are going to write their own libraries and use their own tools. Unfortunately this means the ramp-up time on great games is 2-3 years for Sony systems. We’re just about to the 2 year point on how long developers have had their Sony dev kits, so over the next 3-6 months we should finally start seeing some good games for the system if it plays out the way the PS2 did.
What will be interesting is to see if Sony can keep up interest in their system with a relatively small number of truly next-gen games in their arsenal. Yes, they have Lair, Heavenly Sword and MGS as exclusives, but 360 has Mass Effect, BioShock and Halo3 at the same time which are all MUCH more impressive than the PS3 side.
It will be interesting to see what E3 will hold for both camps…